The Screaming of the....WTF????

3113

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Okay, this was REALLY weird and disturbing.

First, the set up: We live in a suburban area with only urban wildlife: Possums, raccoons, squirrels, cats, dogs. The area between my building and the next is a real echo chamber and if the window is open we can pretty much hear footsteps, conversations, just about anything. There are plants, bushes and a short chainlink fence between buildings. One of the neighbors in the next building owns a very nice, large dog which is sometimes allowed out to trot back and forth in that limited area (don't worry, he gets plenty of walks around the neighborhood). He's a very quiet dog and we almost never hear him.

Late last night we heard...I dunno wtf it was! :eek: Screaming is what I'd call it.

It was screechingly loud and high pitched, loud enough to hurt the ears. It woke us right up and I was sure, at first, that it was a scream of pain, maybe cats?...but not. I've heard plenty of cat fights--and, when my cat got herself pinned, yowling in panic and pain, I heard that. I'd recognize that sound. I've heard squirrels arguing and this wasn't squirrels--they don't get that loud anyway (do they?). I've heard dogs of all sizes howling and yelping. It wasn't a dog. And it wasn't a human being either--not child or adult. Believe me, if it had seemed at all human, we'd have been down there in a flash.

It wasn't a machine either...at least, I don't *think* that it was.

Now, the one thing I've never heard is a rabbit "scream"--might it have been that? It was an ear-piercing shriek that went on, and I've no idea why. It sounded like the thing was being eaten alive and I think (hard to recall now) that I did hear some rustling in the bushes...but all I heard besides it was the dog next door panting. Not barking or growling or seeming on the attack. The dog *seemed* to be trying to see and follow whatever was screaming in the bushes (our cat was also real interested in what was going on, too, she was trying to peer out the window with us).

I considered sending down the half-asleep husband, but I didn't want him searching through the bushes in the dead of night, maybe getting bitten by some crazed...um...Elf? Fairy? Homunculus? Mandrake root being torn out of the ground?

Finally it just stopped. It was fuckin' disturbing. We've talked to one of our neighbors. They certainly heard it. I think the whole neighborhood heard it. Like I said, it was ear-piercingly high and loud and right there in the echo-chamber area. The neighbors are as clueless and disturbed as we are and, no, no one's gone searching this morning through the bushes to see if there are any remains.

So what the hell was it? Can someone reassure this clueless suburbanite that I wasn't witness to some kind of horrific elf homicide outside my window?

:confused:
 
Wow - I thought a rabbit screaming was a metaphor.

Yeegh - that's quite disturbing.


What other local wildlife do you have around there?
 
We heard screaming that, by your discription, was similar. Very eiree, very strange, very loud. We could hear it blocks away from where it was.

In our case, it was a part Coyote, part dog, part something else Canine crossbreed wild animal thing. Sounded a little like a Heyina. Very creepy sound. There is a pack of them wandering around north New Jersey.

Maybe this could be similar to what you have over there?
 
around here its the cats in heat and going on the mate that scream like that. Damn bloody things sound damn near human and more than once i woke up when kiddie was little thinking it was a baby crying in pain.
 
3113 said:
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So what the hell was it? Can someone reassure this clueless suburbanite that I wasn't witness to some kind of horrific elf homicide outside my window?

:confused:

Is the Keebler tree factory near your location?

Perhaps it was elves.

If so, good riddance. (Creepy little fuckers.)

No, I'm so sorry. Don't know where that came from.

Oh, wait. It was the drugs. The medication is causing - disturbances in my psyche.

Truth is - I have no clue.

But I do have a sudden urge for fudge stripe cookies.
 
babygrrl_702 said:
What other local wildlife do you have around there?
Honestly, what I named was about it. Raccoons hide in the storm drains, possums in the trees. There are plenty of cats allowed to roam the neighborhood, and a lot of dog owners. And, of course, there are rats and squirrels.

Bird-wise there are crows, pigeons and *sometimes* owls.

That's about it. We're no where near coyotes, deer, foxes or anything like that. Pet rabbits, gerbils and the like that might get free and roam the suburban forest, but I'm doubtful of anything else.
 
Chantilyvamp said:
around here its the cats in heat and going on the mate that scream like that. Damn bloody things sound damn near human and more than once i woke up when kiddie was little thinking it was a baby crying in pain.
AH! Now *THERE* is an idea. Most of the cats on this block are, I suspect, neutered, and I don't think I've ever heard that. That might be the answer!
 
Rabbits do have a very high pitched squealing yell if they are hurt or trapped. I have several recordings that i use for coyote hunting. and before anyone jumps on me, coyotes are a real problem down here.

Packs of up to twenty-five or more are not uncommon. They can bring down a full size cow.

If you search the bushes you will probably find a rabbit or at least some fur or body parts.
 
You have coyotes, 3113. They are everywhere in the L.A. basin-- I've seen them downtown.

Coyotes famously sound like a woman screaming, and they do-- it's shockingly human- but your noise doesn't sound like a coyote. Rats scream in pain, and it's a lower note than you might expect...
If your critter was in pain, and I can't think of any reason why it would sound like that and not move away otherwise, it would have kept screaming til it died-- possibly of a heart attack.
Someone is going to have to look. :(
 
Stella_Omega said:
Coyotes famously sound like a woman screaming, and they do-- it's shockingly human- but your noise doesn't sound like a coyote. Rats scream in pain, and it's a lower note than you might expect...
Rats are distinct possibility as we did have a rat problem. Must have been a really big rat though...or that echo chamber effect is even better than I thought it was. That thing seemed to have one hell of a set of lungs.
 
Could be a bobcat. They seem to be everywhere. And we have wolves here that wander through the back yard and keep the area clear of cats. :)
 
Could well be a coyote. My first thought was "peacock" -- they do sound a lot like they're screaming "help" -- but you said it was high and kept going on and on, which is not a peacock trait.
 
Barn Owls have this very high-pitched screech which can be quite loud and difficult to locate the source. Perhaps you have a pair just moved into the neighborhood.
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
Could be a bobcat. They seem to be everywhere. And we have wolves here that wander through the back yard
:eek: If it's a bobcat or a wolf, then my neighborhood's gone rogue. A coyote might be possible, but I just can't see it. It'd be a bit of a walk from the area where coyotes usually prowl, and I kinda think he'd get hit by a car before he reached us. We live in an area dense with apartment buildings and high traffic streets. Not real nature friendly unless you're a rat or a raccoon.
 
If it wasn't cats having sex, it may have been a cat drug deal gone wrong. Another possibility is that a male cat, recently returned from a spay-neuter clinic, glanced down there for the first time.

Move to another neighborhood before it's too late. The cats aren't going anywhere, believe me.
 
I thought they caught that damn thing down in Texas. Fucker must of got away. Keep the small children inside after dusk until animal control gets there.
 
jomar said:
I thought they caught that damn thing down in Texas. Fucker must of got away. Keep the small children inside after dusk until animal control gets there.
:eek: Ohmygawd! It's the blood-sucking-goat-monster, isn't it? :eek:
 
Whatever it was, somebody, probably you or your husband, is going to have to look to see if there is the remains of a corpse of some kind. If there's nothing there, that would mean it was probably cats mating. :cathappy: If there is something dead there, it will start to stink in a few days. :eek:
 
Boxlicker101 said:
that would mean it was probably cats mating.
It sure didn't sound like more than one...thing. Or do boy cats stay strong and silent at such times?
 
3113 said:
It sure didn't sound like more than one...thing. Or do boy cats stay strong and silent at such times?

It is usually more than one cat making noise.

The female yowls and purrs and rolls around on her back. Naughty thing, girl kitties are insatiable when in heat.

The boys gather round and occasionally fight when waiting their turn.

When they mate, the male bites the female by the scruff of her neck and holds tight during the act. Seriously. After ejaculation, he withdraws, and tiny barbs on his penis hurt the female. Hence the yowling, and also one of the reasons he holds tight to her until he's done. This process, however, is what stimulates ovulation.

As soon as one boy is done, she will be rolling on her back, licking herself a bit, and starting the entire process all over again.

It's damn near impossible for cats to NOT become pregnant in this situation.

Edited to add - but I don't think it would be anything like what you heard.
 
From what you have described it sounds like either a Rabbit, (Most Likely) or a Racoon in pain. A rabbit scream can turn ones hair white. A racoon makes one think of a person being killed by torture.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
From what you have described it sounds like either a Rabbit, (Most Likely) or a Racoon in pain. A rabbit scream can turn ones hair white. A racoon makes one think of a person being killed by torture.
A raccoon is *VERY* likely. I remember this one year where we came into the living room to see our cat by the front window hissing like crazy, fluffed up, tail like a bottle-brush. Outside the window, on our porch, calmly gazing in at the cat was this very large raccoon. He was sitting there, bold and brass, masked face just taking in the cat as if she were part of the tour he was on.

A raccoon is altogether possible, though why it should be in pain, I've no idea. I don't think our neighbors have put out any traps. Maybe it got caught in the fence?
 
Do you have foxes around there? Cause they make an awful racket that sounds like what you described.

The Earl
 
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