The SCOURIES reader – for both fans and serious scholars…

[sr71plt]

PILOT QUOTENo I think he doesn't "get it." He obviously doesn't "get" that when he whines about 75% of a huge number of votes being swept from his stories, the inference we take is that he has massively cheated to begin with and that the editors only have to sweep because of what he--or someone else in his favor (which I don't find to be too likely)--has done to begin with. If he "got" that, he'd keep his mouth shut through the sweeps and just be happy with whatever cheated numbers he managed to get by the sweeps.

Now you’re starting to sound really, really bitter! The old dispassionate pilot seems to be no more.

Cheating? What you don’t realize my good man is that when you reach a certain level you don’t need tricks or silly little plots. Success doesn’t come that way pilot – instead it takes hard work and passion and talent and more hard work…it demands research… It means listening to your readers… Instead what you seem to want is some shortcut to sales and royalties. Sorry pal, it don’t work that way.

Look, I’m sorry your stories aren’t popular, I’m sorry very few people want to read them. But that’s life. It’s more a product of the categories you write in and the fact that you pumped out a huge number of stories when you first arrived here, than it is your writing ability. You chose quantity over quality and this of course chased away many potential readers – readers you’ll have a very hard time recapturing.

My suggestion to you is to choose a new LITEROTICA name, and then concentrate on producing a few very good stories instead of a huge number of average stories. Try to emulate me.

Then you too may find fame and fortune.

james r scouries

Scouries likes me. He really likes me.

Oh, and I'm happy with my results here. You probably haven't noticed but I'm about to crack the top hundred, which is phenomenal considering the genres I write in, the length of time I've been posting stories here, and that I write for a more literate crowd than you do. Oh, and by quality stories would you be referring to my 6 green Es or your none (despite the "fact" you are being paid royalties to post here)?

 

[sr71plt]

A plague on all three of your houses.

No McD's Happy Meals for any of the four of you tonight.

 

[Stella_Omega]

No McD's Happy Meals for any of the four of you tonight.

But I wanna toooooy!

Oh, wait, they don't put those in mickeyD meals.

 

[starrkers]

Scouries, you remind me of an old guy that my dad used to know. He would always think himself so much above everyone else also. You aren't happy to have me here, and I know this. I don't give two sticks about your opinion, but please, at least have the bravado to speak the truth.

The stalking starts when you find something that puts a little twist in your panties...such as my sailing by you on the favorites list. Then suddenly you decide to find something about me that you don't consider "fair". You drag my name back into your stupid thread and then I'm treated to some of the other aged darlings that like you meanderings so that they come and post their bs on my work. I don't care about that, it'll happen one way or another. I just don't want to be in your stupid thread. So...once more...quit stalking me, keep my name out of your delusional rants and what you think are wonderful ideas and I'll stay out of your thread. I'd much rather not have a reason to pollute my thinking with your rants. Leave me, my work and et al alone and I'll stay away from you...

You certainly didn't have a problem with your good buddy bfw when he was posting stories that he wrote last year and they were coming up not only on the new list but also as certified stories for survivor...why didn't you say something about him? Or didn't you think the two of you would continue to have your masturbatory sessions any more if you did?

Leave me alone, Scouries.

Seems to me the stalking is coming from you. All scouries has to do is mention you in passing and you're all over him like white on rice. Same with the other writer you have probelms with. you haven't been seen around here for weeks, but as soon as your name gets mentioned in this thread you manage to know about it and magically appear in a puff of outrage.
Aren't you suppsed to have them on Ignore?
Looks more like you've got them on "constant and close watch".
If you really don't care about him, prove it. Don't react.

 

[scouries]

dale jr

CrimsonMaiden QUOTE Umm, did you pay any attention to the name? Maiden means GIRL (just because I have a Dale Jr. avatar doesn't mean I'm a guy). You wouldn't report any problems to me unless you're in the Survivor Contest. I'm one of the mods.

Sorry! Dale Jr.? He’s got to win something instead of resting on his old man’s reputation. I’ll take his teammate –

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Are you really the moderator of the SURVIVOR CONTEST? If so please consider either canceling the contest completely in 2009 (my choice) or if this isn’t possible why don’t you invite suggestions from the LITEROTICA forum audience on ways the contest can be changed/improved. You'd be wise to start on this right away - if you wait to the last minute nothing will change.

And for 2008: Please miss, the “Mungo Park III” caper cannot be allowed to recur this year. It was a travesty that reflected badly on every author on the site.

jrs

 

[sr71plt]

It was a travesty that reflected badly on every author on the site.

jrs

That's a rather florid stretch. Pray tell, how so?

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

CrimsonMaiden QUOTE Umm, did you pay any attention to the name? Maiden means GIRL (just because I have a Dale Jr. avatar doesn't mean I'm a guy). You wouldn't report any problems to me unless you're in the Survivor Contest. I'm one of the mods.

Sorry! Dale Jr.? He’s got to win something instead of resting on his old man’s reputation. I’ll take his teammate –

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Are you really the moderator of the SURVIVOR CONTEST? If so please consider either canceling the contest completely in 2009 (my choice) or if this isn’t possible why don’t you invite suggestions from the LITEROTICA forum audience on ways the contest can be changed/improved. You'd be wise to start on this right away - if you wait to the last minute nothing will change.

And for 2008: Please miss, the “Mungo Park III” caper cannot be allowed to recur this year. It was a travesty that reflected badly on every author on the site.

jrs

Yeah, I guess all his top five and top ten finishes mean nothing... I feel he'll get a win soon. He's already had a much better season since signing with Hendrick and he's been up front a lot. (my youngest is a gordan fan).

I'm only one of the moderators. I share duties with Lauren Hynde and have no influence on having the contest cancelled. Considering how many new stories it brings to the site within a year's time, I doubt Laurel & Manu would want to cancel it (though I agree that some of the submissions are sub-standard). We did implement a new rule stating that no one could enter the contest after a certain date in October to keep someone from signing up last minute and winning the contest.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

But I wanna toooooy!

Oh, wait, they don't put those in mickeyD meals.

If they did, then they'd be worth buying!!

 

[Stella_Omega]

If they did, then they'd be worth buying!!

Super size me, baby!

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Super size me, baby!

ROFL!!!!

 

[drksideofthemoon]

Try to emulate me.

Then you too may find fame and fortune.

james r scouries

Why would anyone want to emulate you? You're a joke, Jim, and you are well aware of it.

I found fame, and personally, I didn't like it. One need not act like a buffoon to be noticed. A person doesn't need to blow their own horn repeatedly to be heard.

The only truth in your rambling missive to SR71 that was on the mark was the comment about hard work.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Just my opinion

Being a Survivor Contestant, I don't want to see the Survivor Contest cancel. I think it's fun to compete in a year long story writing contest.

I did make my suggestions for improvement when the contest began in 2008, one of which was making stories a minimum of 1,500 words instead of the present 750 word minimum. My opinion is that I believe by increasing the number of words increases the quality. I was voted down by the arguement that quality has nothing to do with the number of words.

Nonetheless, increasing the minimum number of words would stop someone from dumping hundreds of nonsensical stories, so long as it was 750 words. It's twice as difficult to write 1,500 words than it is 750.

As far as reposting stories, I believe that should be allowed and the story should post with all the other new stories, so long as it is a rewritten story and not the same story pulled at the whimsy of the author and reposted hoping to receive a new life. However, Literotica does not have software or personal in place to discern if a story is the same old story or a rewritten one. With that being the case, stories should be allowed to be pulled and reposted. Only, unless those stories were totally rewritten, they should not be allowed entry in any contests.

Now, I have several stories that were orginally posted as 1,500 to 2,500 word stories that were rewritten as 3,000 to 4,500 words stories. Are those considered new stories? They are to me. Sure the theme of the story is the same, but the story has swelled to more than twice it's size.

 

[sr71plt]

I think a significantly reworked story is a new story, yes. I also think that taking a scene out of an old story and building a new story around it making a new point or looking at the old scenario from a new perspective is not only legitimate, but it also is creative. Lawrence Durrell got internaitonal acclaim for doing this.

 

[Guest]

you wanta know about royalties darkboy????

Hi, it’s [size=+2]Gabby[/size] again,

DARKBOY QUOTE Isn't it about time for you to report the vastness of the royalty checks from these evil people who so conspire to keep you down?

Every time I reported the bosses ROYALTIES in the past you, the pilot and mr. tex seemed to go crazy. So we stopped reporting them in deference to you poor boy’s health. If you like we can include ScouriesWorld ROYALTY figures with the next quarterly reports. However, I can tell you right now that given the 21% increase in year over year sales and the 34% increase in votes, that ROYALTIES received have been significantly higher this year than they were in 2007.

As to:

“HER MAJESTY QUEEN LAUREL III and HER CONSORT, MANU the MAGNIFICENT”

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They are definitely NOT evil people. They are a wonderful duo, benevolent despots with whom [size=+2]ScouriesWorld[/size] has a mutually beneficial contractual relationship. And I can honestly say that it has been a very successful relationship for both parties.

That doesn’t mean that we agree on every little point. Or on every issue. Both Mr. Scouries and the ROYALS are believers in the frank exchange of ideas. And in tough negotiation! Perhaps this is difficult for you to understand given your lack of business experience or acumen.

And of course, like any concerned party, [size=+2]ScouriesWorld[/size] doesn’t hesitate to offer suggestions to our exalted rulers. LiteroticaLand might well be a much better place if other authors and interested parties were brave enough to voice their concerns and ideas.

Gabrielle L.
literotican…actress…threadmaster’s assistant…lover…and
ALT killer…and
V.P. ScouriesWorld seminars…and
assistant accountant reporting to mr. tex…and
deputy art director reporting to miss (I’m in charge of bananas)…and
official committee member
literotica royalty distribution committee…and
friend of GBers…and
director of scouriesworld translation services…and
vice-president marketing –Orgasming Centres Inc….and finally
secretary, 1000+ VOTE CLUB
collins avenue
miami beach, florida

 

[scouries]

Survivor Contest

CRIMSONMAIDEN I found it!!!

I actually thought it was gone – erased from both computer memory and my memory (you see miss stella, you can find deleted computer stuff!). It was POST #17 made on this thread back on June 5 2007. A post by yours truly. DELETED last November.

As you can see my opinions about the SURVIVOR CONTEST haven’t changed much since then. Please note that I didn’t think much of the contest even before the incredible events of last December when poor FREDDIE was royally fucked.

I also addressed in the post the possibility you raise of the site losing some stories. Not much of a loss in my opinion. LITEROTICA doesn’t draw readers and advertisers and authors with poor stories. One blockbuster from Miss Kitt or Freddie or Goldeniangel or Boxlicker etc. etc. (all of whom are very capable of producing them) is much more valuable than one hundred unedited, 750 word stories written in categories the author is neither interested or knowledgeable about (Freddie’s idea of requiring a minimum of 1500 words is a small step in the right direction).

Seeing that canceling this contest entirely is unlikely in the short term, and in the Scourian spirit of helping others, I’m now planning on turning all of Scouries little grey cells to a study of how we can improve this contest. I will forward my thoughts on this subject to both you and the ROYAL FAMILY when the study is complete (for now I’d prefer to not deal with the irascible miss hynde).

Here is the post as it originally appeared:

Post #17 - June 5 2007

SUGGESTION #1 – Maybe it’s Time to Start Charging Authors to Post Stories

“Whattttttt?”

The suggestion is simply this – Allow every author to put up twelve stories a year free. Any story posted after your first twelve and up to fifty would cost you $10 each. Every story after fifty would cost you $20 each.

I actually have a couple of reasons for this suggestion.

First, hopefully this will put a small brake on those authors who post two or three hundred stories a year. Look, I like ‘justplainbob’ and his stories. But a new story from him every day? And these ‘SURVIVOR’ authors, you know, that contest where quantity apparently is more important than quality? Writing, rewriting, editing, polishing over three hundred stories a year? C’mon!

I don’t think this small fee I’m suggesting will cause much of a drop in the number of stories posted. But even if it does, Literotica, with some 15-20,000 new stories posted every year, and its readers, might be better served if contributing authors were just a tad more selective when submitting stories.

The second reason for my suggestion is to provide a little needed cash to the owners of the site which hopefully they’ll then be able to use to improve it.

The added cash might:
* allow monthly prizes to be awarded in a timely manner
* free up cash for technical improvements
* allow Literotica to hire someone (part time?) to answer customer queries
* hire more censors to speed up the story approval process
etc., etc.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I hope you earn a million dollars.

If only I had a penny for every word I wrote, I'd have a good chunk of change. If only I had 1/10th of a penny for every hit my stories received, I'd have a good chunk of change. If only I had a dime for every vote and a dollar for every comment, I'd be a rich man today.

Alas, I write for the love of writing. I don't expect to make money writing. I'm not that good. I'm a hack.

Yet, it doesn't matter to me if I only write for myself, I'd write anyway. The fact that there is a board, such as this to post what I write is a bonus.

Writing is my passion and I'm having the time of my life. And you know what else? With every story that I write, I get better.

Writing is a lifelong apprenticeship. I realize I'd have to live 200 years to be deem a good writer, but making sure that I exercise, take my vitamins, and eat in moderation, gives me motivation to live long so that I can become a better writer (lol).

I hope you earn a million dollars writing for this site, Scouries. Do us proud, the invisible writers who write just for the love of writing.

 

[TxRad]

Hi, it’s [size=+2]Gabby[/size] again,

“HER MAJESTY QUEEN LAUREL III and HER CONSORT, MANU the MAGNIFICENT”

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They are definitely NOT evil people. They are a wonderful duo, benevolent despots with whom [size=+2]ScouriesWorld[/size] has a mutually beneficial contractual relationship. And I can honestly say that it has been a very successful relationship for both parties.

That doesn’t mean that we agree on every little point. Or on every issue. Both Mr. Scouries and the ROYALS are believers in the frank exchange of ideas. And in tough negotiation! Perhaps this is difficult for you to understand given your lack of business experience or acumen.

And of course, like any concerned party, [size=+2]ScouriesWorld[/size] doesn’t hesitate to offer suggestions to our exalted rulers. LiteroticaLand might well be a much better place if other authors and interested parties were brave enough to voice their concerns and ideas.

This is a nice wheelbarrow full of crap, balloon girl.

As usual Scouries, you are trying to associate your crap with someone else's flower bed. Here you are inferring that you are an equal to and have a deal with Lit when everyone knows it is a lie.

Your top 1000 list is the same thing. No one asked to be on it and you are using very good writers to again foster your crap off as a rose. No one is buying it. Your crap isn't even good fertilizer.

I'd laugh but you are just to sad for words.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

I'd like a level playing ground

I'd be willing to pay to post my stories, so long as the contests weren't rigged with the "in" crowd taking turns to vote for their chosen writer as to who will win the contest this time.

I've written some very good contest stories that were horribly bashed. Survivor is the only contest that I know I can win.

Perhaps, we should charge everyone, readers, too.

I like the idea of a person not being able to make a post to a story unless they log in. That will stop many of the bashers. That will allow management to ban these creeps from posting their shit.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I don’t think this small fee I’m suggesting will cause much of a drop in the number of stories posted. But even if it does, Literotica, with some 15-20,000 new stories posted every year, and its readers, might be better served if contributing authors were just a tad more selective when submitting stories.

I think if your scheme were to be implimented, this site would dry up and blow away. I, for one, would not pay to submit my work here.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I'd be willing to pay to post my stories, so long as the contests weren't rigged with the "in" crowd taking turns to vote for their chosen writer as to who will win the contest this time.

I've written some very good contest stories that were horribly bashed. Survivor is the only contest that I know I can win.

Perhaps, we should charge everyone, readers, too.

I like the idea of a person not being able to make a post to a story unless they log in. That will stop many of the bashers. That will allow management to ban these creeps from posting their shit.

The contests are not rigged, you've spent too much time reading Scourie's BS. There have been a lot of contest winners who are not part of the forums. While I have reservations about the accuracy of the sweeps etc., I have no doubt that the contests are run as fairly as possible. There is no "in" crowd planning on who to vote for, or not to vote for.

ETA: I firmly support making it mandatory to be logged in to both vote, and comment. As you have noticed, I for one have no problem signing my name to my comments.

 

[Stella_Omega]

If your stories are really good, you could be paid for them-- by a reputable publisher.
Literotica is what it is. It's just one more website. It has a formula that works pretty well for its owners. As long as it works pretty well for its owners, they are not going to make any big changes.

If you feel that it doesn't work pretty well for you, there are other sites you can shift to.

 

[TxRad]

The contests are not rigged, you've spent too much time reading Scourie's BS. There have been a lot of contest winners who are not part of the forums. While I have reservations about the accuracy of the sweeps etc., I have no doubt that the contests are run as fairly as possible. There is no "in" crowd planning on who to vote for, or not to vote for.

ETA: I firmly support making it mandatory to be logged in to both vote, and comment. As you have noticed, I for one have no problem signing my name to my comments.

Contests by year since I've been here. Anything before and I'm not familiar with all the names.

2003 5 contests 17 places awarded AH 2

2004 5 contests 15 places awarded AH 8

2005 6 contests 24 places awarder AH 14

2006 6 contests 18 places awarded AH 13

2007 6 contests 19 places awarded AH 11

2008 2 contest 3 places awarded AH 2

In all cases over 50% of the stories posted to the contests were from AH authors.

These are the facts. Make of them what you will

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Just a thought

Maybe we should have contests where writers are not allowed to vote not only for their stories but for anyone's stories. Only the readers who have never submitted a story are allowed to vote.

That being said, if you've submitted a story to Literotica, you lose your ability to vote for any story.

That would stop the favoritism, somewhat. Sure, if someone is intent on cheating, they can always log another identity on another computer. Knock yourself out, if 150 bucks is that important to you.

Yet, for the most part, it will help make it a level playing field.

The other suggestion that I have is to stop the voting completely and have an unbiased panel of judges picking the winners. We all can rotate the panel chosen from Literotca volunteers and make the panel large enough, 100 participants, so that no one or two votes will sway the contest to any specific person.

We can have the panel vote in conjunction with the popular vote. The readers votes are worth 50% and the panel's vote is worth 50%.

Lastly, we can just elect Scouries to pick the contest winners. Hey, I thought it was a funny suggestion. Sorry, Scouries.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

Maybe we should have contests where writers are not allowed to vote not only for their stories but for anyone's stories. Only the readers who have never submitted a story are allowed to vote.

That being said, if you've submitted a story to Literotica, you lose your ability to vote for any story.

That would stop the favoritism, somewhat. Sure, if someone is intent on cheating, they can always log another identity on another computer. Knock yourself out, if 150 bucks is that important to you.

Yet, for the most part, it will help make it a level playing field.

The other suggestion that I have is to stop the voting completely and have an unbiased panel of judges picking the winners. We all can rotate the panel chosen from Literotca volunteers and make the panel large enough, 100 participants, so that no one or two votes will sway the contest to any specific person.

We can have the panel vote in conjunction with the popular vote. The readers votes are worth 50% and the panel's vote is worth 50%.

Lastly, we can just elect Scouries to pick the contest winners. Hey, I thought it was a funny suggestion. Sorry, Scouries.

Firstly, there is no favortism, I'm not quite sure where you are getting that idea from. Go back and look at the list of past winners.

The panel idea is alright in theory, but I think you would end up with the same old complaints. There would be accusations from sore losers complaining that the panel was "stacked" against them.

The system in place is what it is, and probably it's the best that can be done on a site such as this.

 

[sr71plt]

Every time I reported the bosses ROYALTIES in the past you, the pilot and mr. tex seemed to go crazy. So we stopped reporting them in deference to you poor boy’s health.

That's quite nice of you, thanks. My bullshit meter was put on overload by that claim of yours.