The Return of Sambo Or Why I'm Not In Love With CB

[Marxist]

For a very special person I changed my avatar to Sambo. It wasn't an easy choice. How does one fit so much love into such a small box? I know some of the more sensitive types out there don't like my dimunitive brother, please allow me to explain:

1. As CelestialBooty is researching right now to be wrong, Sambo began in India. YoYoMat, let me translate this for you: heeeeeheeeheeeeblackityblackity you only want the money to bomb afganis heeeeheeeee!!!

2. Sambo is a hero, much like the wily Ulysses.

3. In the story, Sambo uses his brilliance to outsmart not outgun or out fight not one, but four tigers in a non-descript India / African jungle. They want his clothes for some M___ inspired cross-species cross dressing fetish. He not only defeats his foes but invents a career for syrup icon Aunt Jemima.

4. Sambo is black. Not my kind of black but the kind of black you find in tar babies and other fictional creatures. Southern37 will help you out with that one.

5. I use to think Sambo was racist. When I was a kid we use to drive past a Sambo's Restaurant (it became a Denny's, no comment) and my mom would say that the idea of restaurant with that name was repugnant. I agreed when I was 8, but I think I've changed my opinion, I mean I love those corn biscuits from the Cracker Barrel and no one can tell me otherwise.

6. Can you call me Sambo? Sure. Can I call you Cracker? I posted a definiton of that around here in one of the threads but you can ignore that too if you like. Just don't think that all American Negroes have adopted my attitude. Some of us don't want to be treated special.


Sambo Part 1

Helen Bannerman

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Feets don't fail me now!

 

[Southern37]

For a very special person I changed my avatar to Sambo. It wasn't an easy choice. How does one fit so much love into such a small box? I know some of the more sensitive types out there don't like my dimunitive brother, please allow me to explain:

1. As CelestialBooty is researching right now to be wrong, Sambo began in India. YoYoMat, let me translate this for you: heeeeeheeeheeeeblackityblackity you only want the money to bomb afganis heeeeheeeee!!!

2. Sambo is a hero, much like the wily Ulysses.

3. In the story, Sambo uses his brilliance to outsmart not outgun or out fight not one, but four tigers in a non-descript India / African jungle. They want his clothes for some M___ inspired cross-species cross dressing fetish. He not only defeats his foes but invents a career for syrup icon Aunt Jemima.

4. Sambo is black. Not my kind of black but the kind of black you find in tar babies and other fictional creatures. Southern37 will help you out with that one.

5. I use to think Sambo was racist. When I was a kid we use to drive past a Sambo's Restaurant (it became a Denny's, no comment) and my mom would say that the idea of restaurant with that name was repugnant. I agreed when I was 8, but I think I've changed my opinion, I mean I love those corn biscuits from the Cracker Barrel and no one can tell me otherwise.

6. Can you call me Sambo? Sure. Can I call you Cracker? I posted a definiton of that around here in one of the threads but you can ignore that too if you like. Just don't think that all American Negroes have adopted my attitude. Some of us don't want to be treated special.


Sambo Part 1

Helen Bannerman

The tarbaby you referred to in Uncle Remus's tales are retold slave stories brought from Africa and spread throughout the South inparticular. The are/were told by blacks and whites alike with some of the characters being changed to be more american animals from the original african. The general story line remains pretty much the same.

I'm a little confused though, what kind of black are you?

And by the way ive lived here all my life and i've never seen a corn biscuit, what the hell are those?

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

That's it. Ask him to say more things.

 

[Marxist]

That's it. Ask him to say more things.

.......well since you asked for it.....oh you meant you want me to shut up......

And please everyone, learn how to use the quote thingy correctly. It's called an exerpt.

 

[Guest]

Marxest - you are the biggest asshole in Lit. Take a hint: eveyrone thinks you are a prick. Instead of being an asshole to everybody take a look in the mirror.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Oh my GOD am I getting tired of the whole humorless dull-witted Unregistered thing. The jury is still out on whether the newly minted, clever, funny and profane Marxist is actually a putz, but I am positive we all agreed long ago on the screeching ineffectiveness of Unregistered posting, particulary the overly earnest moralizing kind.

 

[Rambling Rose]

all I know is I am gettin' howngree!

flapjacks anyone?

 

[Pyper]

Damn I love this place.

 

[Rambling Rose]

come and get it!

breakfast is served

 

[Marxist]

Marxest - you are the biggest asshole in Lit. Take a hint: eveyrone thinks you are a prick. Instead of being an asshole to everybody take a look in the mirror.

Now that's the spirit!

Let's go blow by blow: MarxEST, this man or woman thinks I'm the best Marx possible. Thank you sir.

"you are the biggest asshole in Lit."--Now I've tried but no one has published me yet. All of literature? Are you sure? Cheeky monkey

"everyone thinks you are a prick"--I'm sure the anonymous commentator meant that in a very symbolic and phallic Priapic way. Priapus was a very important god to many Romans. The priapus warded off evil. So thank you sir, I've attached this image for those that aren't learned like me and you:

http://witcombe.sbc.edu/masculinity/images/Priapus.jpg

Truth be told, I'm hung like a hang nail, but that's just for the board.

About the mirror thing, I think you might have that whole Narcissus thing mixed up. Don't worry I do it too.

 

[Guest]

Marxest you are special.

Change your name to smegma. A perfect discription.

Cheesy substance under an unwashed foreskin.

 

[SimplySouthern]

Cheeky monkey

Cheeky monkey, eh?

That's it. I have proof that you are actually InternationalFunboy. Why just yesterday he called *bratcat* a cheeky monkey.

AHA. Don't try and deny it. I know it's true.

 

[Marxist]

Marxest you are special.

Change your name to smegma. A perfect discription.

Cheesy substance under an unwashed foreskin.

DCL is that you? (no I didn't mention Vanilla ice cream) nasty? (didn't mention shit) PC? (no, he spells better)

M___ is that you? I knew I shouldn't have posted a pic of Priapus, got you all hot and bothered didn't it? Speaking of cheese, it's after lunch.

TTFN

 

[Marxist]

Cheeky monkey, eh?

That's it. I have proof that you are actually InternationalFunboy. Why just yesterday he called *bratcat* a cheeky monkey.

AHA. Don't try and deny it. I know it's true.

I know little of this IFB but he sounds like...well..****. The M____ style logic is amazing in how it unmasks those of us without wit isn't it?

I'll try to use this logic against you, my hot-blooded, fire-fighting, mustang hood happy muffin (sorry I didn't mean KM). Let's see you're from the South (sorta) and Southern37 is from the South. That must mean that you're M___.

Didn't think I'd figure it out, did you?

And yes I will get back to work

 

[SimplySouthern]

I can neither confirm nor deny those remarks.

It's a matter of National Security.

 

[TN_Vixen]

Marxist?

I think SS just called you a monkey. How racist.

 

[Marxist]

Dear Vixen,

What can I say, SS is down with the brown. And you?

 

[SimplySouthern]

So I called the man a monkey. But, I meant it in the nicest, most non-racist way possible. Does that count for a hill of beans.

Wait, now I've made bean pie references. Dammit, I'm fucked. (On the hood of a Mustang no less)

I'm down with emoticons, too!

 

[Marxist]

I'm down with emoticons, too!

SS,

Strip naked. Find a chair, one you can squat over. Squat. Now imagine this tearing up that poonanny......

Now on to more Serious matters:

Southern37,

Uncle Remus and Sambo are very similar in that they both are vestiges of the Old South.

You're right, among the traditions that Uncle borrows from is the African Hottentot (those are the people with the really big bubbles), but the big contradiction is that the Uncle Remus stories were written by a White man presupposing his system of White superiority onto the characters. Listen to Uncle Remus and then listen to Will Smith in "Bagger Vance" and see if there is a similarity in tone. What these kind of characters do is belittle Black people, making them caricatures as either caretakers or perpetual infants.

Here's a sample of Uncle Remus:

"Bimeby, one day, atter Brer Fox bin doin' all dat he could fer ter ketch Brer Rabbit, en Brer Rabbit bein doin' all he could fer ter keep 'im fum it, Brer Fox say to hisse'f dat he'd put up a game on Brer Rabbit, en he ain't mo'n got de wuds out'n his mouf tewl Brer Rabbit came a lopin' up de big road, lookin' des ez plump, en ez fat, en ez sassy ez a Moggin hoss in a barley-patch.

Now listen to Sambo:

Then, when the Tigers were very wee and very far away, Little Black Sambo jumped up, and called out, "Oh! Tigers! why have you taken off all your nice clothes? Don't you want them any more?"

Neither is overtly racist and in fact Uncle Remus preserves a good bit of tradition among recently freed slaves. But remember who the writer was writing for, the entertainment of mass American (read: White) society in general. Other entertainment of the period didn't make American Negroes of the time sound like molasses dripped from their mouths and that's why Uncle Remus in particularly is considered in poor taste.

Sambo is in revival. There are Black folks on both sides of this one just like Uncle Remus. I've already explained what I find neat about the tale and why people need to back off and embrace a myth that was lifted by a White woman in colonial India. The "darkies" in this one aren't infants or caretakers but tribes people and a very scared little boy. The only time I don't care for it is when it's taken out of context. Africa / India is not the American South. If there's any problem with me it comes from the combination of pickininy and colonialist attitudes imposed on the story.

Corn biscuits are a Yankee invention, by and large. But who really cares. Eating pizza doesn't make me Italian.

And I'm a 100% American Negro. Go into the "Is It Offensive" thread for a definition.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

You lost me at hello.

 

[Marxist]

You lost me at hello.

I'm Batman

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

It's Chinatown, Jake.

 

[TN_Vixen]

down with the brown?

Dear Vixen,

What can I say, SS is down with the brown. And you?

aren't you cute?

SS - I was being facetious about the monkey comment.



btw.. I'm catwoman

 

[Marxist]

So why is you don't like cats?