The non-consent fantasy

Chicklet

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does anyone consider this fantasy to be part of BDSM?

I think it's a good roleplay, a good fantasy. What do you think?

Chicklet
 
hear hear! i completly agree. this fantasy (when played with someone you trust absolutly) is LOADS of fun, and there's few things more exhilerating.
 
It's a great fantasy and can be some terrific roleplay, but whether it falls into BDSM is up for grabs. Depends on what is involved.
 
Whether it's BDSM or not, i think BDSM'ers might be more open and willing to discuss their "rape" fantasies. It might help clarify things if "rape" fantasies were given the term that more accurately describes most of them -- ravishment fantasies.

The fantasy is all about being desired beyond the self control of your partner, not an act of violence perpetrated by a stranger. If the ravishment fantasy contains a strong control element then it could easily be within the realm of BDSM.
 
morninggirl5 said:
...ravishment fantasies.

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If the ravishment fantasy contains a strong control element then it could easily be within the realm of BDSM.

ooooh

i really like this phrase
 
ooh ooh, me too! "ravishment fantasies"
that's so much more articulate and accurate than "rape" which implies a stranger and TRUE non-consent.
 
Oh man, this is a secret fantasy of mine, but one that I am not likely to ever act out. Too much like therapy, I am afraid.
 
NON CONSENT FANTASY

this one of my fav fantasy ,i'd love to be taken by 2 or 3 guys tied up and used by them ,i love it.

em:heart: :kiss:
 
This is also one of my favorites. :) Especially when combined with a bit of bondage.

As for BDSM as a whole, I'm not sure there can be only one answer, since people tend to define BDSM for themselves in as many different ways as there are people.
 
It is one of our favorite things to do... I know it is coming when He tells me to wear something that I don't want to see again...

I know He will come through the door or hide in the house... and when I least expect it, He will be there with the knife... although we do have to be a little more careful... last time when we were playing "tie me up and rape me", He almost cut His thumb off, while He was cutting my dress off me... but then there was all that blood to consider....
 
redelicious said:
Oh man, this is a secret fantasy of mine, but one that I am not likely to ever act out. Too much like therapy, I am afraid.


But if it's therapy, gas bills for the visit can be expensed and there's always counselor/patient privelege to fall back on if any.....troublesome questions should be raised ;)
 
morninggirl5 said:
Whether it's BDSM or not, i think BDSM'ers might be more open and willing to discuss their "rape" fantasies. It might help clarify things if "rape" fantasies were given the term that more accurately describes most of them -- ravishment fantasies.

The fantasy is all about being desired beyond the self control of your partner, not an act of violence perpetrated by a stranger. If the ravishment fantasy contains a strong control element then it could easily be within the realm of BDSM.

that is such a great way to say it!

I can't count how many times in chat rooms guys have asked me about "rape fantasies" and I've always struggled with the answer. I had to say that I didn't because I associate rape with pain and violence.

At the same time I've always had a fantasy of walking into my apartment (house) and being blindly taken. There was never any form of pain in this fantasy. calling it a ravishment fantasy clears it up perfectly for me :)

Now I know what to call it! thanks!!

I also have a feeling that most guys that claim that all women have a rape fantasy, actually mean exactly this. Great call!
 
I FINALLY did one of these with my ex shortly before we split up. It was something I had always really wanted to try, but for some reason never did. It was everything I thought it was, and it was great.

We had actually had a fight, and he got in a frisky mood. I kind of/sort of said no at first, and that set the stage for the non-consent scene. He told me no matter what, it was going to happen anyway, so I might as well try to enjoy it. Now, keep in mind he did not actually have sex with me without my consent. If I had said no, I actually DO NOT WANT to have sex now, I mean it, he would have stopped.

I saw a side of him I hadn't seen before...it was animalistic, with no pretext of love or affection, just sex. And I really got into it. It was awesome, and probably one of the best scenes I had ever had. The spontanaity was great too...if had "planned" to scene that way, I don't think it would have been as much fun.

I think the noncon fantasy is pretty common, maybe more so in BDSM, because it implies totally giving up control for a sub, and having total control for a dominant. That's a lot of what BDSM is about. I don't think anyone really wants to rape or be raped, but to play it out in a consensual, trustworthy setting is a real rush.
 
i must admit, the "rape fantasy" (although i do like the term ravishment fantasies much better) is the first thing that i can remember ever fantasizing about that was BDSM related and was the reason i became involved in BDSM in the first place.

there are only a few things that *especially* turn me on, and being forced sexually, to have someone desire you so much that they no longer have control of themself is one of the ultimate turn-ons for me.

As a matter of fact, i am in the mist of writing a "play rape"' story... perhaps when i finish i will post it here as my first story here at lit...
 
Cirrus it is nice to see you here and posting again...

and you are right... those unprepared scenes are sometimes the best ones.
 
Thanks Cellis.

Getting a breakup for your Xmas gift will kind of knock one out of circulation for a while, ya' know? But I am back now, as well as back into BDSM...aren't "friends with benefits" a great thing sometimes? ;)
 
Cirrus said:
Thanks Cellis.

Getting a breakup for your Xmas gift will kind of knock one out of circulation for a while, ya' know? But I am back now, as well as back into BDSM...aren't "friends with benefits" a great thing sometimes? ;)

Oh yes they are and I have missed you!
 
morninggirl5 said:
Whether it's BDSM or not, i think BDSM'ers might be more open and willing to discuss their "rape" fantasies. It might help clarify things if "rape" fantasies were given the term that more accurately describes most of them -- ravishment fantasies.

The fantasy is all about being desired beyond the self control of your partner, not an act of violence perpetrated by a stranger. If the ravishment fantasy contains a strong control element then it could easily be within the realm of BDSM.



Oh yes, yes, yes!
 
The fantasy is all about being desired beyond the self control of your partner, not an act of violence perpetrated by a stranger.
Hmmm, i partially disagree.

For me anyways, part of the thrill is in the violence, or at least the threat of violence. Being restrained, helpless, lightly abused - all adds to the deliciousness of the scene.
 
Re: NON CONSENT FANTASY

lustyem said:
this one of my fav fantasy ,i'd love to be taken by 2 or 3 guys tied up and used by them ,i love it.

em:heart: :kiss:


OMFG YES YES YES!!
 
Re: Re: NON CONSENT FANTASY

reanne said:
OMFG YES YES YES!!

OK if you know and trust the guys, or at least the one in charge, Oh this isn't me talking, (what do I know about it), my darling wifey spotted this and instructed me to make the comment.

She always insists on retaining complete control and will never allow multi partner if she doesn't know all the guys well, and try to tie her up at your peril, jeez no way, she likes to eat the guys hehe.

On the subject of is this BDSM? Only with the rope work, it should really be termed a fetish, ravishment fetish.


pops.................:D
 
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