The 'No Religion' Rule - Advice Please

[Waywardwench]

Hi Everyone

I was recently reading on another thread that there was a no politics and no religion in stories rule.

I'm fine with the reasoning behind that as I'm sure nobody wants to read some preachy, preachy script about the inner working of someone's political views or faith leanings BUT - one of my upcoming story chapters features the proverbial 'wayward priest' and I'm wondering if this will be OK? It's not a preachy religious thing, just the fact that a man of the cloth so to speak, is doing something that he shouldn't.
I'm relatively new here and don't want to break any of the rules so in general, do other authors think this would be OK?

Thank you

PS - I write in the NC/R category if that makes any difference.

 

[sirhugs]

There's a no religion rule?
I have a 9 page threas of ideas about church related thenes going over on Story Ideas and the moderator hasn't said anythiing... wait, I AM the moderator there.
ohnevermind

 

[PennameWombat]

Hi Everyone

I was recently reading on another thread that there was a no politics and no religion in stories rule.

I'm fine with the reasoning behind that as I'm sure nobody wants to read some preachy, preachy script about the inner working of someone's political views or faith leanings BUT - one of my upcoming story chapters features the proverbial 'wayward priest' and I'm wondering if this will be OK? It's not a preachy religious thing, just the fact that a man of the cloth so to speak, is doing something that he shouldn't.
I'm relatively new here and don't want to break any of the rules so in general, do other authors think this would be OK?

Thank you

PS - I write in the NC/R category if that makes any difference.

Well… I know of the rule, but in my story City of Angels (Erotic Horror) I set a key scene in a church after Sunday service had ended. It’s a fictitious religion and named (the First Presleyterian Church of the Divine Pompadour) but after the service ends there’s usually a session where congregants can give their testimony. My FMC (who is a predatory alien who took over Janet’s body, she’s a twenty-something female church member) first arranges for all of the children to leave to get ice cream, then hypnotizes the congregation to engage in a mass orgy, including running outside and into the streets (she wants to cause a scene the news will cover.)

But she fucks the Reverend next to the altar (he and Janet had long had an unrequited attraction), after which she sucks his life force out and kills him (it’s how her alien part feeds… I had to carefully walk the ‘no snuff’ line too.)

I’ve mentioned this religion a few times, a couple of characters in other stories in this universe had parents who were missionaries in Africa and that’s why they’re friends. I’ve also touched on a real religion without naming it in other stories (the veiled references are to Mormons, it’s described well enough knowledgeable readers might guess it.)

But at no times do I ‘preach.’ I’m not certain where the line is, but I’ve not been called for it as yet.

 

[Waywardwench]

Well… I know of the rule, but in my story City of Angels (Erotic Horror) I set a key scene in a church after Sunday service had ended. It’s a fictitious religion and named (the First Presleyterian Church of the Divine Pompadour) but after the service ends there’s usually a session where congregants can give their testimony. My FMC (who is a predatory alien who took over Janet’s body, she’s a twenty-something female church member) first arranges for all of the children to leave to get ice cream, then hypnotizes the congregation to engage in a mass orgy, including running outside and into the streets (she wants to cause a scene the news will cover.)

But she fucks the Reverend next to the altar (he and Janet had long had an unrequited attraction), after which she sucks his life force out and kills him (it’s how her alien part feeds… I had to carefully walk the ‘no snuff’ line too.)

I’ve mentioned this religion a few times, a couple of characters in other stories in this universe had parents who were missionaries in Africa and that’s why they’re friends. I’ve also touched on a real religion without naming it in other stories (the veiled references are to Mormons, it’s described well enough knowledgeable readers might guess it.)

But at no times do I ‘preach.’ I’m not certain where the line is, but I’ve not been called for it as yet.

Thank you

 

[shakna]

As another example, fleeing from a cult is a core part of my Lessons for Alice. It does take a few pains to point out the problems and hypocrisy of cults, but more as underlying things than something pivotal. Whilst it does feel like it could apply to multiple cults, and doesn't name one, it was modeled on a particular one.

Has never had an issue, and I've brought it up in answer to this question before.

 

[sirhugs]

These examples ilustrate the difference between using religion as a story element, and hate speech, which is what I assume the "no religion" principle is aimed at- like anti-semitism, or sterotyping all muslims as terrorists.

 

[ElectricBlue]

These examples ilustrate the difference getwen using religion a a story element, and hate speech, which is what I assume the "no religion" principle is aimed at- like anti-semitism, or sterotyping all muslims as terrorists.

I think this is the key - so far as I am aware, there's no prohibition of religious themes as such, just don't politicise them.

Can't see the wayward priest being a problem.

 

[GrushaVashnadze]

I was recently reading on another thread that there was a no politics and no religion in stories rule.

I've had mixed experiences on this.

On the one hand, a story of mine based on a Bible story was rejected, with this explanation: "In response to overwhelming feedback from readers, we have decided at this time not to publish works that promote or focus heavily on politics or religion, or political or religious figures or scriptures. Lit readers are bombarded with political disputes on other platforms and they prefer to avoid these types of divisive issues in their erotica."

On the other, my The Cursed Cunt got through fine, despite passages like this:

"OH GOD!" cried Father Jim again, his voice echoing to the rafters. He felt the cum rise in his shaft -- but this was different from any time before, for now his sperm was being caressed out of his cock by hot wet pussy. And when Bea got to her customary "Here it is baby, come deep inside yer dir'y filfy cuntfuckin' whore -- oh FUUUUUCK!!!" Father Jim did just that, ramming his cock deep, so he felt his dickhead hard against her cervix. Spurt after spurt of hot jizz exploded from his cock, deep inside this beautiful, sexy, demented, diabolical creature. Here in this moment were met good and evil, beauty and filth, Heaven and Hell. His vocation was forgotten, his reputation abandoned: all that mattered was cunt.
"Oh yeah, Jimmy, does 'at feel good, babe, comin' in my fuckin' pussy?" moaned Bea. "Was 'at good, Jimmyyy? D'ya like comin' in my dir'y hot cunt, Jimmyyy? Better than all those fuck-mags, eh?"
Father Jim groaned and nodded incoherently, as he slowly pulled out, leaving a thin gloopy strand of semen dribbling across the edge of the altar. Bea lay back, grinning naughtily, as she dipped two fingers into her fuck-hole, withdrew a blob of warm cum, and proceeded to savour the taste.

I'd say try it, but don't be surprised if it's rejected.

 

[vanmyers86]

My story The Minister Takes a Break has loads of religious references in it, since the leading man is a minister. Another story, Lofty Ambitions, has its sex scene take place in a church's choir loft. Both are straightforward romances, and are not disrespectful or preachy.
There seem to be plenty of stories on this site that feature religion in both positive and negative ways. So if there is such a rule, I'm not aware of it and my stories have not been flagged for it.

 

[Waywardwench]

I've had mixed experiences on this.

On the one hand, a story of mine based on a Bible story was rejected, with this explanation: "In response to overwhelming feedback from readers, we have decided at this time not to publish works that promote or focus heavily on politics or religion, or political or religious figures or scriptures. Lit readers are bombarded with political disputes on other platforms and they prefer to avoid these types of divisive issues in their erotica."

On the other, my The Cursed Cunt got through fine, despite passages like this:

"OH GOD!" cried Father Jim again, his voice echoing to the rafters. He felt the cum rise in his shaft -- but this was different from any time before, for now his sperm was being caressed out of his cock by hot wet pussy. And when Bea got to her customary "Here it is baby, come deep inside yer dir'y filfy cuntfuckin' whore -- oh FUUUUUCK!!!" Father Jim did just that, ramming his cock deep, so he felt his dickhead hard against her cervix. Spurt after spurt of hot jizz exploded from his cock, deep inside this beautiful, sexy, demented, diabolical creature. Here in this moment were met good and evil, beauty and filth, Heaven and Hell. His vocation was forgotten, his reputation abandoned: all that mattered was cunt.
"Oh yeah, Jimmy, does 'at feel good, babe, comin' in my fuckin' pussy?" moaned Bea. "Was 'at good, Jimmyyy? D'ya like comin' in my dir'y hot cunt, Jimmyyy? Better than all those fuck-mags, eh?"
Father Jim groaned and nodded incoherently, as he slowly pulled out, leaving a thin gloopy strand of semen dribbling across the edge of the altar. Bea lay back, grinning naughtily, as she dipped two fingers into her fuck-hole, withdrew a blob of warm cum, and proceeded to savour the taste.

I'd say try it, but don't be surprised if it's rejected.

Thanks. Nice quoted story passage too there

 

[8letters]

Hi Everyone

I was recently reading on another thread that there was a no politics and no religion in stories rule.

The rule is no story should "promote or focus heavily on politics or religion, or political or religious figures." So no Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Jerry Falwell Jr or the Pope sex stories. No rants about a particular faith or political party. Lots of stories on Literotica mention religion, but don't focus heavily on it. A "wayward priest" story is probably fine as long as the story is on the priest and not the religion he belongs to.

 

[Bubo_bubo]

It would probably OK to write a story about the life and fuckeries of Rodrigo de Borja,AKA Pope Alexander VI, AKA Lucrezia's daddy.
It would probably not be OK to turn that story into an anti-Catholic rantfest.

 

[gordo12]

The rule is no story should "promote or focus heavily on politics or religion, or political or religious figures." So no Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Jerry Falwell Jr or the Pope sex stories. No rants about a particular faith or political party. Lots of stories on Literotica mention religion, but don't focus heavily on it. A "wayward priest" story is probably fine as long as the story is on the priest and not the religion he belongs to.

I have done all that without any censoring from above. A common sense guideline in social convos is not to get into religion or politics. The only negative is that certain commenters will take offence and say so. Also, vote the story down. Do I care? Not really.

Here are a couple of driveby swipes:

Here's a line I wrote in a story that generated a lot of support, but also bricks. "Good PR even works for the Demonically Possessed; just ask Trump!"

I also take frequent swings at religion. I enjoy the ability to express myself to thousands of readers. Here's a convo between the Angel Michael and a Fallen Angel Ahrimanes in "Evil" that got no blowback; "You can always come down here on my territory and show me the error of my ways, Michael. In HIS righteous anger, HE made a mistake in putting me in charge here. The fundamental laws HE laid down for this universe preclude HIM from changing that. You know that. Not that HE'S paid attention for the last few thousand years."

 

[KeithD]

I have priests who enjoy sex in my stories. Haven't had any problem with the stories posting here. It's putting religion with politics that runs into trouble here, I think.

 

[Waywardwench]

The rule is no story should "promote or focus heavily on politics or religion, or political or religious figures." So no Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Jerry Falwell Jr or the Pope sex stories. No rants about a particular faith or political party. Lots of stories on Literotica mention religion, but don't focus heavily on it. A "wayward priest" story is probably fine as long as the story is on the priest and not the religion he belongs to.

Thank you

 

[Duleigh]

A Priest isn't religion
His job is religion

 

[SimonDoom]

A Priest isn't religion
His job is religion

Duleigh I like the new 'do.

 

[RejectReality]

The rules against politics and religion are in place to block work that either heavily promotes or heavily mocks. Simply having a religious person or a politician in a story — even as a major character — isn't going to run afoul of these restrictions.

( Assuming they're not actual public figures. Putting Trump, Pelosi, or the Pope in a story is playing with fire )

If your story is evangelical or a hit piece, that's when it's going to find itself under the ban hammer.

 

[Duleigh]

Duleigh I like the new 'do.

Thanks, the suit is a bit snug at the shoulders, it takes a little getting used to.
I would like to wear a ribbon like any other disease or medical condition gets to wear but it's hard to find zebra stripe colored ribbon.

 

[gordo12]

Speaking of no religion there's an interesting article and documentary: The church powers that be don't want to hear it

1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture is about the first time the word “homosexual” appeared in the Bible.

 

[MetaBob]

I hadn't heard that Literotica has a "No religion" rule, and from the looks of things they actually don't, just a rule that stories aren't to heavily focus on religion. One of my favorite things about my second published novel, Valley Winter Loop, is that several people from a female-led church play important advisory roles to my leads. Initially, that's their only role, but it later turns out that the parish secretary and her lesbian partner aren't averse to receiving the attentions of a sufficiently skilled male linguist, even as the church leader and another clergy member continue to play the wise advisor role. That was fun to write.

 

[dmallord]

An example of a NC/Reluctance story is one I published called mother-trucker-of-a-road-trip chapter 02. The story involves a runaway girl who meets a preacher and his newlywed bride and gets around to driving demons out of his bride while thinking about using the girl as a substitute. It's been posted for a while and has no complaints to date.

It might be a story to look at and see if it compares to what your theme covers.

 

[purvis2]

Hi Everyone

I was recently reading on another thread that there was a no politics and no religion in stories rule.

I'm fine with the reasoning behind that as I'm sure nobody wants to read some preachy, preachy script about the inner working of someone's political views or faith leanings BUT - one of my upcoming story chapters features the proverbial 'wayward priest' and I'm wondering if this will be OK? It's not a preachy religious thing, just the fact that a man of the cloth so to speak, is doing something that he shouldn't.
I'm relatively new here and don't want to break any of the rules so in general, do other authors think this would be OK?

Thank you

PS - I write in the NC/R category if that makes any difference.

So my story that begins "A Rabbi, a Priest and a Minister walk into a whorehouse . . ." is verboten?

 

[thomas1965]

It depends how the story progresses. If they commit the expected sins inside it should be fine.
A problem might be if they start preaching to the prostitutes and try to convert them - at least for the readers.

 

[dmallord]

If it sound sort of like this ... then you'll be fine.

“Sister Lily Anne, my daddy called for those who wanted to be saved to come forward for a laying on of hands. A powerful jolt stood me up right at his calling. The Devil was trying to pull me back, but the Illuminator named Daveithai strengthened me, and I came forward. The power of the Lord rushed upon me … I saw the bright light of Heaven and heard the calling. ‘Go forth and be fruitful increase the flocks of the Lord – the voice said to me, Sister Lily Anne.”

Lily Anne listened to his words. She noted that somewhere in his monologue, he frequently addressed her as ‘Sister Lily Anne.’ It sounded like an old Bible-thumping testament she’d heard in a parking lot at the flea market in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Curious, she started to go in, but her momma grabbed her arm and pulled her away. “Don’t get caught up in that crap,” she warned, “the Lord gave you a nice church down the block, and it doesn’t preach all that crock, Lily Anne!”