The next Cultural Renaissance

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With fewer and fewer people actually working anymore you'd think they would have enough time on thier hands to do something artsy, or are we in such a national decline that I won't be seeing flower power or the next white album anytime soon? Don't tell me financial prosperity is required. That's a ways off. If. What's it going to take? A mass failure in cellular communication? Maybe it's going on and I'm missing it.

*checks twitter for Cultural Renaissance*
 
because doing something passionately that you're good at and making a living from what you love is so... "bleh."

you're an idiot.
 
With fewer and fewer people actually working anymore you'd think they would have enough time on thier hands to do something artsy, or are we in such a national decline that I won't be seeing flower power or the next white album anytime soon? Don't tell me financial prosperity is required. That's a ways off. If. What's it going to take? A mass failure in cellular communication? Maybe it's going on and I'm missing it.

*checks twitter for Cultural Renaissance*

What is it you're looking for that qualifies as a 'cultural renaissance'?
 
I have a theory that explains it. I call it the PRIME NUMBER ATROPHY

On the whole number line prime numbers are plentiful and frequent near the beginning of the whole number sequence, but as you move along the line prime numbers are fewer and further apart.

The same scheme exists with new technology, new art, new love; plenty happens at the start then the Pepsi loses its fizz.

An alternate explanation is, pasrasite encrustment. Too many 'pretend' experts & authorities, Chelsea Clinton comes to mind, sucking the life outta our culture.
 
Guys in groups wearing funny hats? Who knows. Go start one and we'll ponder its nature.

If one doesn't know what would qualify as a cultural renaissance, one will be on a poor position to recognize it when it happens.

It is likely a renaissance is already underway, but there are no real 'gatekeepers' for cultural content (as in the past when record companies and radio decided what the public had access to, publishing houses controlled print media, very few national broadcasting network (in the US, those being ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS) deciding what the public would see on tv).

Now days the flow of information is so unrestricted that 'mass culture' is sub divided into so many micro cultures, that it may be some time before a truly global culture takes recognizable shape.

Or maybe it's Gangnam Style.
 
With fewer and fewer people actually working anymore you'd think they would have enough time on thier hands to do something artsy, or are we in such a national decline that I won't be seeing flower power or the next white album anytime soon? Don't tell me financial prosperity is required. That's a ways off. If. What's it going to take? A mass failure in cellular communication? Maybe it's going on and I'm missing it.

*checks twitter for Cultural Renaissance*

In The Ordeal of Change, Hoffer posits that cultures get stultified by law (the rule of man) to the point where creativity is crushed to protect the status quo and that what leads to great changes is the usurpation of the ruling class by war (or plague) to free people to rewrite the rules and introduce new ideas.

We see that in Regulation, where the powerful business class works hand-in-hand with government to write Byzantine rules that protect turf and win elections while making it virtually impossible for a new idea or start-up to flourish before the cost of compliance crushes it.
 
I have a theory that explains it. I call it the PRIME NUMBER ATROPHY

On the whole number line prime numbers are plentiful and frequent near the beginning of the whole number sequence, but as you move along the line prime numbers are fewer and further apart.

The same scheme exists with new technology, new art, new love; plenty happens at the start then the Pepsi loses its fizz.

An alternate explanation is, pasrasite encrustment. Too many 'pretend' experts & authorities, Chelsea Clinton comes to mind, sucking the life outta our culture.

This is a similar observation; as we tend to oligarchy, they are comfortable with the system that rewards them and fight to keep it in place, even if they do not realize that which they do in the name of our behalf, is actually in their behalf and injurious to us in the long-run.

We see it in the political discussion from the Left, for a generation now, we have to help the poor which morphs to, the middle class is shrinking, now we have to help them and with each assistance that which they desire to aid, in fact becomes weaker.

When it finally crashes economically, then we have a shot at real, not pretend, change.

"The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else. ... there is only one remedy: time. People have to learn, through hard experience, the enormous disadvantage there is in plundering one another."
Frédéric Bastiat
 
This is a similar observation; as we tend to oligarchy, they are comfortable with the system that rewards them and fight to keep it in place, even if they do not realize that which they do in the name of our behalf, is actually in their behalf and injurious to us in the long-run.

We see it in the political discussion from the Left, for a generation now, we have to help the poor which morphs to, the middle class is shrinking, now we have to help them and with each assistance that which they desire to aid, in fact becomes weaker.

When it finally crashes economically, then we have a shot at real, not pretend, change.

"The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else. ... there is only one remedy: time. People have to learn, through hard experience, the enormous disadvantage there is in plundering one another."
Frédéric Bastiat

A very interesting and accurate explanation if I may say so...

Real change only ever comes in face of real mess...

But on the other hand, as a society, we have grown so very personal that we have ceased to function together...our own 'selfish' needs prime the needs of the 'pack' (if I may say so)..Of course it is not entirely wrong but when faced with times of trouble, one looks only to saving one's own skin not saving the whole pack...

Cultural renaissance is characterized by intellectual thoughts, ideas that go against the 'norms' but that seek to bind rather than divide, and art...I do wonder how much of that is possible in today's world...We are all the more divided in thoughts and actions...even though at the heart of mankind, I do find the need to connect is present whether it is physical, mental or spiritual...I just wonder how much of that connection is possible...
 
Bandcamp.com

Seriously, check it out if you haven't already. There are so many great bands/musicians on there and you can listen and download their music, knowing that you're directly supporting new talent. Some bands even let you decide how much you want to pay.
 
In The Ordeal of Change, Hoffer posits that cultures get stultified by law (the rule of man) to the point where creativity is crushed to protect the status quo and that what leads to great changes is the usurpation of the ruling class by war (or plague) to free people to rewrite the rules and introduce new ideas.

We see that in Regulation, where the powerful business class works hand-in-hand with government to write Byzantine rules that protect turf and win elections while making it virtually impossible for a new idea or start-up to flourish before the cost of compliance crushes it.

Being oppresed under the rule of law could be the very trigger to start the next cultural revolution, or counter-cultural revolution. It may not be all peace and love.
 
The renaissance is happening. It's just that it doesn't look like any other renaissance before it. And if you don't know what to look for, you might mistake it for white noise.
 
The renaissance is happening. It's just that it doesn't look like any other renaissance before it. And if you don't know what to look for, you might mistake it for white noise.

I like this way of thinking a lot.
 
Most people are wasting their time texting, tweeting, face booking, internet surfing, gaming, watching movies on their phone or shopping. Very few want to take time to learn a craft or art when they can just buy things or pose with right equipment and clothing. We are a nation of consumers not doers any more...art is like fitness...only very few really do it.
 
The renaissance is happening. It's just that it doesn't look like any other renaissance before it. And if you don't know what to look for, you might mistake it for white noise.

I agree. Think about what has changed in the last 5 years. Facebook, twitter, tumblr, instagram, pintrest, etc. have all risen and now dominate the social world. They give us access to unlimited amounts of expression and information. These two factors contribute to the fastest growing and changing reform the world has seen.
 
This is a similar observation; as we tend to oligarchy, they are comfortable with the system that rewards them and fight to keep it in place, even if they do not realize that which they do in the name of our behalf, is actually in their behalf and injurious to us in the long-run.

We see it in the political discussion from the Left, for a generation now, we have to help the poor which morphs to, the middle class is shrinking, now we have to help them and with each assistance that which they desire to aid, in fact becomes weaker.

When it finally crashes economically, then we have a shot at real, not pretend, change.

"The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else. ... there is only one remedy: time. People have to learn, through hard experience, the enormous disadvantage there is in plundering one another."
Frédéric Bastiat

I read something close to your proposition today, simply stated: We've created legions of zombies with our bailouts and grants and no interest loans and annointed status (oligarchy) and the zombies compete for the same niches as wild newbies.
 
I agree. Think about what has changed in the last 5 years. Facebook, twitter, tumblr, instagram, pintrest, etc. have all risen and now dominate the social world. They give us access to unlimited amounts of expression and information. These two factors contribute to the fastest growing and changing reform the world has seen.

I just closed my FACEBOOK account as a futile waste of time.
 
I just closed my FACEBOOK account as a futile waste of time.

One of my FB friends cracked his skull open while skiing this weekend in Colorado. I only have 70 friends, ... well 69 now.... and they remaining ones are boo-hooo-hooo'ing all over the place. My may disable the thing until the boo-hooing is over.

It's kinda funny though - his last update was "checking in" at some resort at Breckinridge and everyone was telling him how lucky he was.


What's the etiquette for deleting a dead FB friend?
 
The renaissance is happening. It's just that it doesn't look like any other renaissance before it. And if you don't know what to look for, you might mistake it for white noise.

:rose:
 
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