The New Racial Profiling
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Black_Bird
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Thank you for pointing this article out. Yet another reason to *really* fucking hate the Bush administration.
Thank you for pointing this article out. Yet another reason to *really* fucking hate the Bush administration.
KillerMuffin
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Not a whiff in the US, but tons of brit news outlets have it according to google. I even searched the NY times. Nothing on it in the past 30 days. I'm not inclined to believe that over 5 British news agencies would manufacture news, so I'm going to believe this is true.Lord Acton always said that Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely. He's sure doing his damnedest, isn't he? And he was the best of the lot. That is incredibly terrifying.
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These are some pretty extreme and unacceptable occurences.
On a similar, albeit different note, there are numerous examples of airport security being disorganized and ineffectual. Furthermore, at what point does the interest of security become a violation of privacy.
Ex 1: Atlanta, Ga, last fall. A man runs back through a security checkpoint to retrieve his camera. The airport was cleared and safety assessment completed. The flights were no less than three hours late.
Ex 2: Lexington, KY two weeks ago: A security guard was caught sleeping in the terminal. Again, airport cleared and everyone had to go through security checkpoints, again.
Ex3: Of a more personal nature, ref. violation of privacy point. A friend was departing for a visit to another friend. She is striking woman and as she was meeting her lover, she was dressed to the nines. She was taken into a private room and searched. They confiscated her garter belt. (I laughed when I heard this, but afterthought says...WTF?) However, the did NOT check her carry on bags......so, it makes one wonder, what was the motivation for searching her person to that degree?
These three examples ring of the Keystone Cops.
On a similar, albeit different note, there are numerous examples of airport security being disorganized and ineffectual. Furthermore, at what point does the interest of security become a violation of privacy.
Ex 1: Atlanta, Ga, last fall. A man runs back through a security checkpoint to retrieve his camera. The airport was cleared and safety assessment completed. The flights were no less than three hours late.
Ex 2: Lexington, KY two weeks ago: A security guard was caught sleeping in the terminal. Again, airport cleared and everyone had to go through security checkpoints, again.
Ex3: Of a more personal nature, ref. violation of privacy point. A friend was departing for a visit to another friend. She is striking woman and as she was meeting her lover, she was dressed to the nines. She was taken into a private room and searched. They confiscated her garter belt. (I laughed when I heard this, but afterthought says...WTF?) However, the did NOT check her carry on bags......so, it makes one wonder, what was the motivation for searching her person to that degree?
These three examples ring of the Keystone Cops.
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KillerMuffin said:
Lord Acton always said that Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely. He's sure doing his damnedest, isn't he? And he was the best of the lot. That is incredibly terrifying.
I know you don't believe or accept anythng boortz says as a reliable even when he quotes his sources but he has been talking about this reverse profiling for ages(read 4-5 months), seeing as its not allowed to profile people who are of the same race as the terrorist they simply interogate everyone else hoping someone might no something about it.
Its like if you have a corner store robbed and the video tape doesn't get the robbers face but gets a coor video of his arm and its black the cops are not allowed to question the blacks, because it is racial profiling, in the nieghbour hood they are only aloowed to question the whites, reverse profiling, hoping one of them might know the black man.
But at least Lavender has brought us a credible source and not that outlandish lier boortz.
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Officials at Heathrow reported Mr. Akhtar might be on a terrorist watch list. While I regret that the poor man was questioned for a couple of hours, I'm sure he'll survive and probably split a few million along with lawyer over his "damages"
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Last week, a correspondent for the Times found 30 men and a woman camped in a squalid hotel in Mogadishu, in Somalia. They were all African-Americans of Somali origin, who had arrived in the US as babies or children. Most were professionals with secure jobs and stable lives. In January, just after the release of Black Hawk Down (the film about the failed US military mission in Somalia), they were rounded up. They were beaten, threatened with injections and refused phone calls and access to lawyers. Then, a fortnight ago, with no charges made or reasons given, they were summarily deported to Somalia. Now, without passports, papers or money, in an alien and frightening country, they are wondering whether they will ever see their homes again.
Well, I'm not finding much about this. Perhaps our friends in Britain can come up with something. I wasn't prepared to subscribe to The Times simply for archive access.
I did find that there were 30 Somalis that were due to be returned to the interim gov of Somalia by Valentine's day, which was a form of recognition of that gov. by the USA, a major step.
There are plenty of Somali refugee stories out there from around the world: some are about treatment like this at the hands of the Italian & Belgium peacekeepers/ military police when they forcably deported folks from Somalia in the early 1990's. Some are about them being forced to return to Africa because they are eligible for the draft there. Some are about the refugees being criminals, sort of like Castro's Mariel boatlift. I was looking in Reuters, Yahoo, Times, & Amnesty International.
Like I said, it doesn't prove much one way or the other.
Well, I'm not finding much about this. Perhaps our friends in Britain can come up with something. I wasn't prepared to subscribe to The Times simply for archive access.
I did find that there were 30 Somalis that were due to be returned to the interim gov of Somalia by Valentine's day, which was a form of recognition of that gov. by the USA, a major step.
There are plenty of Somali refugee stories out there from around the world: some are about treatment like this at the hands of the Italian & Belgium peacekeepers/ military police when they forcably deported folks from Somalia in the early 1990's. Some are about them being forced to return to Africa because they are eligible for the draft there. Some are about the refugees being criminals, sort of like Castro's Mariel boatlift. I was looking in Reuters, Yahoo, Times, & Amnesty International.
Like I said, it doesn't prove much one way or the other.
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It seems as though this sort of thing has been happening to many people with brown skin and black hair.
My cousin, SAMOAN, was harrassed at the airport upon arrival. They told him that he "looked suspicious."
My friend's uncle, MEXICAN, was also harrassed and almost missed his flight because they had to "search" his belongings.
My co-worker, BRAZILIAN, was detained for over 4 hours after she got home from visiting her family.
It's not just airport employees freaking out, either. It seems as though passengers on planes are too "uncomfortable" to ride with certain passengers, and ask that those that are the cause of the discomfort be removed from the plane.
It seems like such an American thing to do...to wait until something horrible happens before doing anything...then, when things start being done, they're done way overboard. OY!!
My cousin, SAMOAN, was harrassed at the airport upon arrival. They told him that he "looked suspicious."
My friend's uncle, MEXICAN, was also harrassed and almost missed his flight because they had to "search" his belongings.
My co-worker, BRAZILIAN, was detained for over 4 hours after she got home from visiting her family.
It's not just airport employees freaking out, either. It seems as though passengers on planes are too "uncomfortable" to ride with certain passengers, and ask that those that are the cause of the discomfort be removed from the plane.
It seems like such an American thing to do...to wait until something horrible happens before doing anything...then, when things start being done, they're done way overboard. OY!!
SINthysist
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Hey, we're racially profiling the Isreali's too. A new group has just been deported for espianage (damn, just can't seem to spell that word).
Hey, I'm all for racial profiling. I am appalled at the world's consternation at us looking towards our own safety. It will take acts against thier own countries for most of them to see the light.
lavy, a lot of personal political attacks against your country this week. A new trend?
Hey, I'm all for racial profiling. I am appalled at the world's consternation at us looking towards our own safety. It will take acts against thier own countries for most of them to see the light.
lavy, a lot of personal political attacks against your country this week. A new trend?
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very scary i havent read about it in papers here yet because havent been reading any last few days sorry
however i can say the Guardian is a respected newspaper and doesnt usually make things up or even exagarate things like this
and with respect i think at the moment in present climate our newspapers are perhaps more free to write something like this then an american newspaper ?
however i can say the Guardian is a respected newspaper and doesnt usually make things up or even exagarate things like this
and with respect i think at the moment in present climate our newspapers are perhaps more free to write something like this then an american newspaper ?
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Thanks again Lavender and patient 1 for bumping. In maggie Thatcher's time the only reliable news I could get was in the likes of El Pais.
One of the great things about Lit is the racial mix ( and gender/ sexual preference mix, and gae mix etc.) and if we can keep the net free of interference our elected dictatorships will have to transform.
One of the great things about Lit is the racial mix ( and gender/ sexual preference mix, and gae mix etc.) and if we can keep the net free of interference our elected dictatorships will have to transform.
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Your friends probably got racial profiled for not being Middle-Eastern looking. In order to be sensitive, they are searching old women, children, 70 year-old Congressmen.
Once again, as before, they are being hand-cuffed by the dark forces of Political Correctness and to mangle Claude Rains' (sp?) line, "They can't round up the usual suspects!"
Once again, as before, they are being hand-cuffed by the dark forces of Political Correctness and to mangle Claude Rains' (sp?) line, "They can't round up the usual suspects!"
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Lavender.....
There is more truth to your article than you know...after Sept.11...every single person I know of arab or Persian desent has been picked up by the FBI and interrogated at length.If your NAME even has what is percieved as a Middle Eastern origon...you were taken to an FBI holding center and harrased at extreme length...even if you were born here...or in my mothers case...has lived here for 32 yrs.
I too had to deal with this....and my mother did as well,we were denied a lawyer and violated in many ways.
to be hatefull even they would give us only pork to eat..trouble is...WE ARENT SUSSPOSED TO EAT PORK EVER.
My mother wears a partial Chador{hair covered} as a personal choice...it was taken from her.She was humilated
You tell me where the justice is
I have to fly to Florida next week...I will not be suprised if I get detained and spit on.
It is very hard to be a Muslim right now in the USA.
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There is more truth to your article than you know...after Sept.11...every single person I know of arab or Persian desent has been picked up by the FBI and interrogated at length.If your NAME even has what is percieved as a Middle Eastern origon...you were taken to an FBI holding center and harrased at extreme length...even if you were born here...or in my mothers case...has lived here for 32 yrs.
I too had to deal with this....and my mother did as well,we were denied a lawyer and violated in many ways.
to be hatefull even they would give us only pork to eat..trouble is...WE ARENT SUSSPOSED TO EAT PORK EVER.
My mother wears a partial Chador{hair covered} as a personal choice...it was taken from her.She was humilated
You tell me where the justice is
I have to fly to Florida next week...I will not be suprised if I get detained and spit on.
It is very hard to be a Muslim right now in the USA.
CH
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racial profiling
is needed. You fail to say that we are at war. The enemy has no rules. They much rather kill women and children to scare us. If we know they are dark skin arab speaking coming from a flaged country why should we not stop them. If some inocent people get stop I think they should allow it for the better of the country. I just dont see your point.
is needed. You fail to say that we are at war. The enemy has no rules. They much rather kill women and children to scare us. If we know they are dark skin arab speaking coming from a flaged country why should we not stop them. If some inocent people get stop I think they should allow it for the better of the country. I just dont see your point.
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What are you talking about
This sounds a helluva lot like the rhetoric that justified the internment of the Japanese during WWII. After treatment of Native Americans, and slavery, Japanese internment has to be one of the things that shames America the most What does checking people at the airport have to do with your reply.
This sounds a helluva lot like the rhetoric that justified the internment of the Japanese during WWII. After treatment of Native Americans, and slavery, Japanese internment has to be one of the things that shames America the most What does checking people at the airport have to do with your reply.
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Your from england. I expect stupid posts from you.
Your from england. I expect stupid posts from you.
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Oh yeah
I forgot your so smart. You skipped a grade when you were young. Your on the board a lot. Do you have a job? Your not wasting all that talent here are you. I was tested and moved ahead when I was young. My sister was so bored in her first grade class and after tests they had authorized her moving on up to third grade. What do you do?
I forgot your so smart. You skipped a grade when you were young. Your on the board a lot. Do you have a job? Your not wasting all that talent here are you. I was tested and moved ahead when I was young. My sister was so bored in her first grade class and after tests they had authorized her moving on up to third grade. What do you do?
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