The new math

[Bad_Doggie]

There is a distinction when you get to higher or longer numbers. 6 * 3 or 3 * 6 is simple enough that it can be written either way. But, what about something like 5,356,401 * 127. The smaller number would always be the multiplier. If course, if you have a decimal involved, such as 234.65 * 1,310, the number with the fewer digits would be the multiplier, even though, in this case, the multiplicand is smaller.

Fuck no….

It is true that

5,356,401* 127=680262927

And

127*5,356,401=680262927

But physically they are not the same…

If you have 127 boxes of beans each with 5,356,401 beans in each box isn’t the same as having….

5,356,401 boxes each with 127 beans in them.

If you have 127 customers who each want to buy a box with 5,356,401 beans in them and what you actually have is 5,356,401 boxes with 127 beans in each, you’re fucked and got a lot of bean counting to do.

Despite the fact that you have 680262927 beans total in both cases!!!

Woof!

 

[Que]

Fuck no….

It is true that

5,356,401* 127=680262927

And

127*5,356,401=680262927

But physically they are not the same…

If you have 127 boxes of beans each with 5,356,401 beans in each box isn’t the same as having….

5,356,401 boxes each with 127 beans in them.

If you have 127 customers who each want to buy a box with 5,356,401 beans in them and what you actually have is 5,356,401 boxes with 127 beans in each, you’re fucked and got a lot of bean counting to do.

Despite the fact that you have 680262927 beans total in both cases!!!

Woof!

I don't think I responded to this the first time you posted this, so I shall.

If you have a given number of boxes and a given number of beans per box, how does the following two mathematical equations provide that information, if it is not specified outside of the mathematical equation?

127x131 or 131x127

From either of those equations alone how could you possibly determine with a certainty whether it is 127 beans in each of 131 boxes or 127 boxes with 131 beans in each? Nothing about that mathematical notation requires that either number be boxes or beans unless specified.

Absent any information, it is not even relevant that either of them are boxes or beans. They are numbers, not boxes or beans.

It BECOMES an equation about boxes of beans only when someone solving a problem pertains to boxes of beans writes those numbers down. The person writing the numbers down knows which are the boxes and which are the beans because he was the one that is multiplying them together.

When he is multiplying them together there is no possible way he is doing that to find out any other thing than how many beans in total which you acknowledged above is the same.

If he wanted to know how many boxes, the number of boxes would have been the unknown not the known and would have have been labeled with a variable. The process required to find out how many boxes to put that many beans away as specified in a contract order would division not multiplication.

When multiplying to solve for the product of two numbers it is completely unnecessary to know which is the number of boxes and which is the number of beans per box.

This is why calculators do not have a separate button for inputting a multiplicand and multiplier because they are interchangeable when finding a product of two numbers. This is why it makes no difference when multiplying which number you put into your calculator first.

If you are solving the problem 12x16 to figure out how many ounces of tomatoes are going into the sauce, it does not matter whether that is twelve 16oz cans or sixteen 12oz cans if you are solving for the product of those two numbers.

Just as in your example with the beans, you are solving for how many beans. Even in the unlikely event that the numbers mean the opposite of what intuition tells you they should indicate it makes no difference because of the commutative property of multiplication.

 

[Que]

Apparently Bad Doggie was quoting another thread about mathematics so, me replying to that quote bumped another thread on mathematics, which is well because there is now twice the interest, I am sure.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Apparently Bad Doggie was quoting another thread about mathematics so, me replying to that quote bumped another thread on mathematics, which is well because there is now twice the interest, I am sure.

Do us all a favor and get your Luvox prescription refilled today.
You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[phrodeau]

Que chose the correct answer in the poll. How did that happen?

http://forum.literotica.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=21547

 

[Que]

Que chose the correct answer in the poll. How did that happen?

http://forum.literotica.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=21547

I chose "a" correct answer. Both a and b are correct. But feel free to ridicule Rob for getting it "wrong" because SCIENCE!

 

[Que]

Do us all a favor and get your Luvox prescription refilled today.
You're embarrassing yourself.

"Us all?" Is there a mouse in your pocket?

That position makes no sense. Those posters such as yourself that live to see me "embarrassed" would not be aided by me becoming less embarrassed. Those posters that have no interest one way or the other would not consider it a favor, and those that find no enmity with me, would not likely care about your assessment of me.

Speaking of embarrassment:

There, do you feel validated with some attention now?

It took you 2 months of self promotion to "leave" on your "year long sabbatical" which was shortened to "See you in December" which ended up being a scant number of months. Not accounting cameos of course.

You come back and as is your wont, you have been seeking my attention daily since your return. Ignoring you does no good, simply makes you more desperate to be noticed.

Fine. I noticed you. You may go now.

I had to look up the drug. Why am I not surprised that you are intimately aware of the action of an OCD medication? Maybe talk to your doc about titration?

 

[Hypoxia]

Revelations ,666 = sign of the beast (Satan ).

666 was a commonly-used alphanumerological formula (χξϛ) meaning "a whole lot", like the term 'myriad', just we now might say there's a million or zillion of something. Some manuscripts said 616 instead of 666. That's a 7.5% discounted Beast. See this Wikipedia article.

 

[Que]

666 was a commonly-used alphanumerological formula (χξϛ) meaning "a whole lot", like the term 'myriad', just we now might say there's a million or zillion of something. Some manuscripts said 616 instead of 666. That's a 7.5% discounted Beast. See this Wikipedia article.

That is pretty interesting. I had wondered why that particular number had any significance.

Even its use as "many" seems odd. with 10 fingers you would think 100 or 1000 might be many.

Maybe because 6 is more than a hand? to get to 60, though, you need a 10's place and to get to 600 a 100's place.

Odd.