The more I hear Kennedy speak, the more impressed I am. Not afraid to talk truth to power!

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RFK Jr. Blames Prozac, Video Games For Rise In Mass Shootings​

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. does not agree with conventional party claims that access to guns alone has caused the rise in mass shootings, especially by youths.

Instead, he cites in part the increase on antidepressants and the use of video games.


In a long-form, sit-down interview on the Club Random with Bill Maher podcast out next week, Kennedy recalled that as a kid he attended schools that had shooting clubs, and nobody thought of turning those guns on each other.

But he said that changed with the use of depressants or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors such as Prozac and Zoloft and violent

video games.

Is he wrong?

 

[RoryN]

Glad you're enjoying his 15 minutes! He'll be mostly a non-issue / story in 2024, so get your yuks in now.

 

[LLCox]

He's anti gun. How about stop the violent video games first.

 

[HisArpy]

He's a Democrat. That means he's going to say a lot of crap that people think sounds good in order to get votes on election semi-year. it don't make any of that crap true. Or even that he'll do any of it if elected.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

RFK Jr. Blames Prozac, Video Games For Rise In Mass Shootings​

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. does not agree with conventional party claims that access to guns alone has caused the rise in mass shootings, especially by youths.

Instead, he cites in part the increase on antidepressants and the use of video games.


In a long-form, sit-down interview on the Club Random with Bill Maher podcast out next week, Kennedy recalled that as a kid he attended schools that had shooting clubs, and nobody thought of turning those guns on each other.

But he said that changed with the use of depressants or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors such as Prozac and Zoloft and violent

video games.

Is he wrong?

Yes. Gamers in Japan and South Korea play the same violent video games. Gun violence is rare in both counties.

 

[buaireadair]

Yes. Gamers in Japan and South Korea play the same violent video games. Gun violence is rare in both counties.

nice of you to cherry pic what you want to cherry pick

Popular antidepressants not available in Japan
We know that Prozac did not enter Japan because the manufacturer decided to pull it after disappointing trials in Japan. Wellbutrin was not accepted because it is chemically similar to amphetamines, which are basically illegal in Japan.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

nice of you to cherry pic what you want to cherry pick

Popular antidepressants not available in Japan
We know that Prozac did not enter Japan because the manufacturer decided to pull it after disappointing trials in Japan. Wellbutrin was not accepted because it is chemically similar to amphetamines, which are basically illegal in Japan.

Have you considered that it’s much easier to get a gun in the United States?

 

[DeluxAuto]

That means he's going to say a lot of crap that people think sounds good in order to get votes on election semi-year. it don't make any of that crap true. Or

Like a big beautiful wall, racial harmony, and repeal and replace Obamacare.

Oh, and only and handful of people have COVID and it will go away when the weather warms up.

That kinda crap?

 

[buaireadair]

Have you considered that it’s much easier to get a gun in the United States?

In a long-form, sit-down interview on the Club Random with Bill Maher podcast out next week, Kennedy recalled that as a kid he attended schools that had shooting clubs, and nobody thought of turning those guns on each other.

 

[buaireadair]

Have you considered that it’s much easier to get a gun in the United States?

cherry picking again

https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/01/gun-clubs-school-charles-c-w-cooke/

 

[DeluxAuto]

In a long-form, sit-down interview on the Club Random with Bill Maher podcast out next week, Kennedy recalled that as a kid he attended schools that had shooting clubs, and nobody thought of turning those guns on each other.

That's a terrible analogy or whatever the hell you were going for here.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

nice of you to cherry pic what you want to cherry pick

Popular antidepressants not available in Japan
We know that Prozac did not enter Japan because the manufacturer decided to pull it after disappointing trials in Japan. Wellbutrin was not accepted because it is chemically similar to amphetamines, which are basically illegal in Japan.

LOL any idea of how many types of anti-depressant there are? But since Japan has not approved one type, that is why the Japanese have no mass shootings.....Hmmm how about explaining why Australia has low levels of mass shootings,but Prozac is approved there....or maybe try Canada...

The only cherry picking going on is by you........*chuckles*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_antidepressants

 

[HisArpy]

Have you considered that it’s much easier to get a gun in the United States?

Just leaving this here to show you don't need a gun in Japan

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Just leaving this here to show you don't need a gun in Japan

Are you stating mass shootings equal suicide? Seems that way to me. Perhaps it's time to seek help for your Carbon Water addiction.

 

[bijedi]

Have you considered that it’s much easier to get a gun in the United States?

Of course they have, but that leads to a conclusion that they don't want to accept. So they will point to anything they can to distract from the fact that the only significant difference between countries where mass shootings are infrequent (everywhere except the US) and where they are common (almost exclusively the US) is the easy availability of firearms, and the associated gun worship culture.

And while perhaps there weren't as many mass shootings in the good old days, there are now and there is no way to put that genie back in the bottle. So the gun worshipers will continue to distract with any 'whatabout' they can pull up, and ignore that the only thing that has changed between then and now is that they have made mass shootings acceptable.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

It's been shown time and again that violent video games have fuck all to do with real world gun violence. This is particularly poor timing on Kennedy's part, since a large metastudy was recently published on the matter.

 

[RoryN]

It's been shown time and again that violent video games have fuck all to do with real world gun violence. This is particularly poor timing on Kennedy's part, since a large metastudy was recently published on the matter.

He's blaming Prozac and video games?

Does he think it's 1995?

 

[LeeKee]

Yes. Gamers in Japan and South Korea play the same violent video games. Gun violence is rare in both counties.

Guns are outright banned there. I’ve been to both countries. But they are also very unstable in other aspects, lots of suicides in both countries.

Simulators train the brain. We (military) used them for engagements with every weapon one can fire, trained attack helicopter pilots, gun crews on HMMWVs, F-18 pilots…you name it. Simulators train what to do and how to react. Video games do the same to kids. So running in a hallway shooting as many people as you can in a game does nothing to condition one to potentially, let’s say, run down a hallway and shoot as many people as possible?

I’ve train Marines and Soldiers over 25 years and have seen the effects good and bad. What the games don’t train is the reality of combat, the actual loss of life and limb. And the aftermath.

Guns are a problem, but more narrowed than broad in the sense of a solution. But it becomes a compound issue when the brain wielding them has been compromised or conditioned in a violent manner prior. Regardless of guns, the video games are planting seeds that will yield bitter fruit.

I am in Europe and more people own firearms than you would ever imagine, however the shooting do not occur as often. I believe it is because of the ownership of firearms is seen as a great responsibility and an earned privilege. The owners are mature and responsible, tested and trained. Society is just as hectic, but violent behaviour, regardless of firearms, is socially not accepted or tolerated. What you see in the US is Wild West (again regardless of firearms) antics and tolerated violence on a daily basis. You will suffer what you tolerate.

But what would I know. But….Would love to compare my experience vs your theory.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Guns are outright banned there. I’ve been to both countries. But they are also very unstable in other aspects, lots of suicides in both countries.

Simulators train the brain. We (military) used them for engagements with every weapon one can fire, trained attack helicopter pilots, gun crews on HMMWVs, F-18 pilots…you name it. Simulators train what to do and how to react. Video games do the same to kids. So running in a hallway shooting as many people as you can in a game does nothing to condition one to potentially, let’s say, run down a hallway and shoot as many people as possible?

I’ve train Marines and Soldiers over 25 years and have seen the effects good and bad. What the games don’t train is the reality of combat, the actual loss of life and limb. And the aftermath.

Guns are a problem, but more narrowed than broad in the sense of a solution. But it becomes a compound issue when the brain wielding them has been compromised or conditioned in a violent manner prior. Regardless of guns, the video games are planting seeds that will yield bitter fruit.

I am in Europe and more people own firearms than you would ever imagine, however the shooting do not occur as often. I believe it is because of the ownership of firearms is seen as a great responsibility and an earned privilege. The owners are mature and responsible, tested and trained. Society is just as hectic, but violent behaviour, regardless of firearms, is socially not accepted or tolerated. What you see in the US is Wild West (again regardless of firearms) antics and tolerated violence on a daily basis. You will suffer what you tolerate.

But what would I know. But….Would love to compare my experience vs your theory.

Since you believe Americans are inherently irresponsible with firearms, wouldn’t it make sense to ban gun ownership here?

 

[Chobham]

I'm not buying into the video game connection, at least not as a major contributor.

The drugs, most definitely. That connection goes all the way back to Columbine, long before serious shoot'em up video games were out there en mass.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

I think he's engaging in the fallacy of false cause, but I approve of the targets that he is attacking on other grounds.

I'm still not going to vote for him. I'll be voting for the Libertarian-flavored lunatic of the election cycle.

 

[YDB95]

In a long-form, sit-down interview on the Club Random with Bill Maher podcast out next week, Kennedy recalled that as a kid he attended schools that had shooting clubs, and nobody thought of turning those guns on each other.

The kind of schools a Kennedy attends are really not representative of anything outside the 1%.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

I'm certainly not in the 1% and we had gun clubs. We didn't have shootings until after they were eliminated.


There seems to be something to the old adage that an armed society is a polite society.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

The Ladies' Choice!

 

[Chobham]

If you read the contraindications for the various common drugs, especially those prescribed for ADHD, the warnings are all there.

I pulled up the toxicology report on the recent Nashville school shooter. He/she/it's blood was a veritable witches brew of legal and illegal drugs.