The Isolated Political Blurt Thread

[gotsnowgotslush]

Erik Prince, Blackwater founder, the brother the Education Secretary Betsy Devos.

White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and senior adviser Jared Kushner, reportedly solicited advice from Erik Prince "on how to proceed with the 16-year-long war in Afghanistan."

August 4, 2017

Court Throws Out Blackwater Guards' Sentences for 2007 Baghdad Massacre

Three former mercenaries who killed and injured 31 unarmed Iraqis in Nisour Square will be resentenced, and a fourth may be retried


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...kwater-guards-sentences-2007-baghdad-massacre

Blackwater's My Lai Massacre in Iraq

During the 10-week trial in 2014, "prosecutors said the four defendants, among 19 Blackwater guards providing security for State Department officials in Iraq, fired machine guns and grenade launchers in a reckless and out-of-control way after one of them falsely claimed their convoy, called Raven 23, was threatened by a car bomber," the Washington Post reported.

"While defense lawyers have argued that the men were acting in self-defense, federal prosecutors wrote that the men's 'crimes here were so horrendous—the massacre and maiming of innocents so heinous—that they outweigh any factors that the defendants may argue form a basis for leniency,'" Common Dreams reported.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/04/world/middleeast/blackwater-contractors-iraq-sentences.html

 

[Beco]

Erik Prince, Blackwater founder, the brother the Education Secretary Betsy Devos.

White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and senior adviser Jared Kushner, reportedly solicited advice from Erik Prince "on how to proceed with the 16-year-long war in Afghanistan."

August 4, 2017

Court Throws Out Blackwater Guards' Sentences for 2007 Baghdad Massacre

Three former mercenaries who killed and injured 31 unarmed Iraqis in Nisour Square will be resentenced, and a fourth may be retried


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...kwater-guards-sentences-2007-baghdad-massacre

Blackwater's My Lai Massacre in Iraq

During the 10-week trial in 2014, "prosecutors said the four defendants, among 19 Blackwater guards providing security for State Department officials in Iraq, fired machine guns and grenade launchers in a reckless and out-of-control way after one of them falsely claimed their convoy, called Raven 23, was threatened by a car bomber," the Washington Post reported.

"While defense lawyers have argued that the men were acting in self-defense, federal prosecutors wrote that the men's 'crimes here were so horrendous—the massacre and maiming of innocents so heinous—that they outweigh any factors that the defendants may argue form a basis for leniency,'" Common Dreams reported.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/04/world/middleeast/blackwater-contractors-iraq-sentences.html

You post this like it's a bad thing. Wouldnt Erik Prince, former Navy Seal, know how to win a war? Or would you rather have some Academic call the shots, like, kind of what we had for the last 8 years??

Its not like they are getting financial advice from Bernie Madoff...Prince knows his shit

 

[Hypoxia]

You post this like it's a bad thing. Wouldnt Erik Prince, former Navy Seal, know how to win a war?

When was the last time USA won a war? What the fuck is USA doing in Afghanistan? What would 'winning' there look like?

 

[phrodeau]

Ever notice that Tromp has no pets? As a germophobe, he'd hate them -- and animals are never seen around him. Ever notice anything about people that animals avoid?

There is one named Steve Bannon.

 

[Beco]

When was the last time USA won a war? What the fuck is USA doing in Afghanistan? What would 'winning' there look like?

It would look like a lot of mud huts and shacks, lots of rocks and a desert, with kids asking for dimes and dusty wind, with women holding baskets on their head, and the smell of sweat.....kind of what it looked like before we invaded.....

Bush had no exit strategy for any of his wars.....

 

[magicalmoments]

When was the last time USA won a war? What the fuck is USA doing in Afghanistan? What would 'winning' there look like?

Every nation that has gone to war in/with Afghanistan, from Alexander the great, has regretted it. All they've achieved is upgrading the weapons that the Afghanistan use.

 

[Beco]

Every nation that has gone to war in/with Afghanistan, from Alexander the great, has regretted it. All they've achieved is upgrading the weapons that the Afghanistan use.

It's all this reincarnation stuff, even Saddam thought he was Nebuchadnezzar with a job to do....but I doubt Bush was Alexander the Great...

 

[Hypoxia]

I had three questions. Here are my answers.

* When was the last time USA won a war?
Near as I can tell it was 1945. We've had no declared wars since then. Undeclared wars don't keep popular support. The Pentagon and corporate DC establishment have forgotten how to win wars. Pathetic!

* What the fuck is USA doing in Afghanistan?
Oh yeah, 9/11 attackers trained there. But they also trained in Germany, Florida, and Arizona, which USA didn't bother invading. No attackers were Afghans; IIRC they were Egyptian, Saudi, and Pakistani. So why did Dubya invade and why did Obama stay? Whatever; but we can expect Tromp to fuck it up even more.

* What would 'winning' in Afghanistan look like?
How do the Pentagon and Team Tromp envisage victory? (Remember: If you don't know where you're going, you'll probably end up somewhere else.) Let's just say, "We won!" and get the fuck out of there. Let Iran get sucked in next.

Y'all may remember the punchline in WAR GAMES: "Sometimes the only way to win is to not play."

 

[LincolnDuncan]

James Woods, Janine Peiro, Alex Jones and the rest of right wing loons calling for civil war should be prosecuted for making terrorist threats.

 

[magicalmoments]

It's all this reincarnation stuff, even Saddam thought he was Nebuchadnezzar with a job to do....but I doubt Bush was Alexander the Great...

Hahaha... but I bet Bush thought he was!

 

[ishtat]

One of Meuller's Grand Juries has been established in Washington. What chance has Trump got of a "fair go" given that Washington DC is predominantly black and 96% Democrat?

 

[magicalmoments]

One of Meuller's Grand Juries has been established in Washington. What chance has Trump got of a "fair go" given that Washington DC is predominantly black and 96% Democrat?

Why does Trump need a fair go? He deserves everything he's obviously got coming.

 

[ishtat]

Why does Trump need a fair go? He deserves everything he's obviously got coming.

Because if he doesn't get a fair go that will be the story, not the substantive issues. Everyone should get a fair go so that if and when they are found guilty there are no excuses.

 

[Hypoxia]

A DC grand jury was impaneled because it's just down the road from the prosecutor's office. Yay for short commutes, hey?

Meanwhile, don't forget that Mueller was FBI director longer than anyone but J Edgar Hoover. He's no dummy. He knows how to prosecute.

And keep in mind the truism: A good prosecutor can get a Grand Jury to indict a tennis ball. Mueller could impanel a gang of inbred robe-clad Klansmen from David Duke's incestuous family and still get Tromp indictments. Yeah, Team Tromp is going down. Better get that stationary printed with a Leavenworth address. And learn to bend over and smile.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Golden Oldie SNL

Trump gropes the air, while he makes speeches about not molesting women.

*remind me of kitten meme- "invisible breast grabbing."

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It would look like a lot of mud huts and shacks, lots of rocks and a desert, with kids asking for dimes and dusty wind, with women holding baskets on their head, and the smell of sweat.....kind of what it looked like before we invaded.....

http://images.indianexpress.com/2017/06/afg-ap-m.jpg

http://static.bitlanders.com/users/galleries//280512/young-Afghan-girls-and-boys-in-color-ful-dresses_fa_rszd.jpg

https://benawhat.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/children-afghanistan.jpg

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/afghanistan-160819163207/95/presentation-about-afghanistan-by-zainudin-noori-29-638.jpg?cb=1471624377

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2c/29/ab/2c29abceac872324ed566f2adb1172b6.jpg

http://www.theweddingspecialists.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/afghan-wedding-songs-3.jpg

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/wm/live/1280_640/images/live/p0/42/sb/p042sbcl.jpg

whew, boy! Good thing the existing reality and verity of people keep surpassing the projecting prejudices and privileged shittiness of people living on this planet, or we'd ALL be fucked!

oh, and yo...everything you just said in that quote above can be easily found in the good ol' United States Of America in the here and now! Ain't that a kick in the head?

http://www.apalpablehit.com/uploads/8/4/8/7/84874884/pie-fight-2_orig.gif

 

[magicalmoments]

Because if he doesn't get a fair go that will be the story, not the substantive issues. Everyone should get a fair go so that if and when they are found guilty there are no excuses.

Yes. I guess. Shame Trump doesn't share the logic.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://img42.com/zZWoK+

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Don't start peddling that racist bullshit here.

And for the record, this whole Fox "Your political affiliation is a crime" narrative is so disgusting.

Are we going to start having employers check out our voting history before they hire us?

Fucking pathetic

One of Meuller's Grand Juries has been established in Washington. What chance has Trump got of a "fair go" given that Washington DC is predominantly black and 96% Democrat?

 

[BotanyBoy]

whew, boy! Good thing the existing reality and verity of people keep surpassing the projecting prejudices and privileged shittiness of people living on this planet, or we'd ALL be fucked!

You forgot to show what the other 99.9% of that shit hole is like.

Mud hutts out in the sticks....
http://media.farsnews.com/Uploaded/Files/Images/1394/01/11/13940111000387_PhotoJ.jpg

And that world class metro living!!
http://gkwale.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Afghan-city-of-Kunduz.jpg

Don't forget your daily honor killings! Brought to you by the only REAL feminist out there....
http://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Afghan-Honor-Killing.jpg

oh, and yo...everything you just said in that quote above can be easily found in the good ol' United States Of America in the here and now! Ain't that a kick in the head?

Not in any real scale. By comparison the shit conditions of Afghanistan are practically non-existent in the US.

Our dumpiest of hoods and trashiest of trailer parks are palatial and luxurious compared to 99.99999% of Afghan accommodations and our working poor's lives are beyond the wildest dreams of 99.9% of Afghani people who can't even imagine having indoor plumbing AND a refrigerator.

The fact that you're even trying to compare the size and scope of poverty and squalor of the US to that of Afghanistan shows you not only have no-fucking clue what you're talking about but that you desperately need to get out of your SJW bubble sometime and go visit some of these places you fantasize about being so wonderful.

I bet you weren't planning on spending your next vaycay visiting the GORGEOUS Korenghal Valley and it's wonderful people!~ We know why
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000GsJP.4zHD.U/s/900/900/02-03-09Korengal134.jpg

 

[BotanyBoy]

Don't start peddling that racist bullshit here.

^^ Has no problem peddling her own racist bullshit.

 

[Beco]

One of Meuller's Grand Juries has been established in Washington. What chance has Trump got of a "fair go" given that Washington DC is predominantly black and 96% Democrat?

Actually, I think its just about 50/50, or less as "black" people have been forced out of the city due to high rents and development.

 

[JackLuis]

‘You’re simply changing the subject’: ABC host busts Kellyanne Conway on Russia lies as she blames ‘Benghazi’

Why does anyone pay her the slightest attention?

“The White House and the president’s lawyer said he wasn’t involved at all,” Stephanopoulos explained. “They didn’t tell the truth.”

“You know, George, I know there this whole thing about…” Conway began.

“About telling the truth,” the ABC host interjected.

“Let’s talk about telling the truth,” Conway snapped. “Let’s talk about [President Barack Obama] looking Americans in the eye who are still suffering eight years later. If you like your plan you can keep it, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Benghazi happened because of a video.”

“Kellyanne, you’re simply changing the subject,” Stephanopoulos interrupted. “You are changing the subject going back to President Obama and Hillary Clinton.”

“But what came of that meeting,” Conway replied. “Nothing.”

Trumpanzies, the gang that couldn't collude straight?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Yeah, 'Murica's so much better than the "hell/shit hole" of Afghanistan with our flush toilets and refrigerators that we even got the privileged 1%'ers killing themselves cuz it's so golden here!

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/170728-double-suicide-feature-image.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1

Couple caught in ‘financial spiral’ jump to their deaths

A broke Manhattan chiropractor and his wife jumped to their deaths from an office building Friday — leaving suicide notes describing how they “cannot live with” their “financial reality,” law-enforcement sources said.

Glenn Scarpelli, 53, and Patricia Colant, 50 — who had carted trash bags filled with belongings from their home to the curb Thursday — leaped at around 5:45 a.m. from the ninth floor of the Madison Avenue building where they worked.

Their bodies were found sprawled in the middle of East 33rd Street in Murray Hill.

Inside each of their pockets was a suicide note and ID in a plastic baggie — presumably to make sure the letters didn’t get too bloody to read.

Scarpelli titled his typed suicide note, “WE HAD A WONDERFUL LIFE.’’

“Patricia and I had everything in life,” the dad of two wrote.

But the note took a dark turn, describing the couple’s “financial spiral,’’ sources said.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/28/couple-caught-in-financial-spiral-jump-to-their-deaths/

Maybe they shoulda took a day trip to that Korenghal Valley for some perspective or whatever, eh?

 

[Beco]

‘You’re simply changing the subject’: ABC host busts Kellyanne Conway on Russia lies as she blames ‘Benghazi’

Why does anyone pay her the slightest attention?



Trumpanzies, the gang that couldn't collude straight?

Thats just it, Trump doesn't do anything right....so what makes people think he could strike a deal with the Russians, to assure victory in the election?