The Isolated Political Blurt Thread

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On Tuesday night, a third-year student at the University of Virginia named Martese Johnson was thrown to the ground by police officers and beaten bloody in public on the main social drag of campus—all apparently because he tried to use a fake ID.

Martese Johnson is black. All reports are alleging that he did not resist the officers’ use of force in any way, and the officers continued to brutalize him while onlookers pleaded with them to stop. A graphic photo taken at the scene is now circulating widely on the internet.

As of now, there has been no formal response from UVA administration. [Edited to note the Cavalier Daily has since reported a fourth-year college student stating that UVA President Teresa Sullivan has “put in a request to Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe to open a state investigation.”]

The above picture was included in an email sent to the UVA community by a group of concerned black students, which also details the alleged incident:

This morning Martese Johnson emerged with a head injury requiring 10 stitches.

He was brutalized by Virginia ABC law enforcement outside of Trinity Irish Pub. His face was bloodied. His body was bruised.

Outside of the doors of Trinity Irish Pub, a mass of University students bore witness to the officer’s animalistic, insensitive, and brute handling of Martese. He was left with his blood splattered on the pavement of University Avenue.

Today, we are reminded of the gruesome reality that we are not immune to injustice; as University students, we are not impervious to the brutality that has reeled on news cycles around the country. We have marched and shouted that we are Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, but the proximity of this morning’s brutality to a member of our community has deepened that wound. It is no longer happening only on national television—it is a reality here and now at the University of Virginia that we must face as a collective.

After Martese was denied entry to the bar, he found himself suddenly flung to the ground. The brutish force used resulted in his head and bodily injuries. His treatment was unprovoked as he did not resist questioning or arrest. In confusion, with blood painting his face and creating a pool on the bricks of the corner, he yelled out for mercy. Though he lay bleeding and crying out, officers continued to hold him to the pavement, pinning him down, twisting his arm, with knees to his back until he was handcuffed.

As students pleaded with officers to lift Martese from the ground they were pushed away, and some were even handcuffed and threatened with possible arrest if they did not leave the scene.


We demand there be a swift and thorough investigation on the state, local, and University levels. We have seen what happens at the University when we allow problems we have long known exist to be handled quietly, so we will not be quiet. We demand noise from each other, noise from professors, noise from administrators. Martese, like any other student at this university, like any other person in this country and in this world, deserves more than our uproar: he deserves follow through and intentional action.

Look forward to a follow up email regarding further plans and actions.

Sincerely,

Concerned Black Students

According to the Cavalier Daily, Johnson was “arrested on charges of resisting arrest, obstructing justice without threats of force, and profane swearing or intoxication in public” and held in jail overnight.

Martese Johnson is a highly involved student at the University of Virginia: an Italian and Media Studies major who plans on going into business, a member of the Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity (a historically black frat), a leadership development chair in the Black Student Association; he was also a leader in the major student governing body (the Honor Committee). Sources tell me he was also an IMP: a member of a prestigious semi-secret society, one of three major secret societies on grounds.

My nephew an honor student at UVA assaulted last night by police #BlackLivesMatter #justice #MarteseJohnsonpic.twitter.com/0X5WXpE83V

A march is being organized in Charlottesville for 8 p.m. tonight, from the main landmark on campus—the Rotunda—to the police department downtown. No incidents of prejudicial violence on this scale have occurred at the University of Virginia in recent memory, although the racial climate in Charlottesville is what you might expect from a relatively conservative institution founded by Thomas Jefferson. Graduate student Maya Hislop told me, “Black students on grounds are highly familiar with this kind of abuse (denied access to places, checking IDs of black students and not checking IDs of white students), but I do not know that it has ever been this violent.”

She added, “We knew that increased police presence for the protection of women would have a negative impact on black students. It sucks that we had to be proven right this way.”

[Post was updated to add the details about Johnson’s arrest and Sullivan’s response as reported by the Cavalier Daily, as well as the second photo of Johnson.]


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"The new head of the Federal Communications Commission, Tom Wheeler, is a former lobbyist for two sets of vested interests: the cell-phone operators and, you guessed it, the cable companies."
 
"You have participated in a previous run of the course Terrorism and Counterterrorism: Comparing Theory & Practice. That is why we think you might be interested to know that tonight, at 18:00 Leiden Time, we will be broadcasting a Google Hangout on the topic of Islamic State and foreign fighters."

I got the above email today. Yes, I know that Leiden is in the Netherlands and in CET time, but nowhere in the email did it list the time zone, country or even what language the hangout would be in.

Can people expect to solve world problems if they are so insular?

I got this email 2 hrs ago and it's in 20 minutes, I might go check it out. Hopefully it's mainly in English.
 
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On Tuesday night, a third-year student at the University of Virginia named Martese Johnson was thrown to the ground by police officers and beaten bloody in public on the main social drag of campus—all apparently because he tried to use a fake ID.

Martese Johnson is black. All reports are alleging that he did not resist the officers’ use of force in any way, and the officers continued to brutalize him while onlookers pleaded with them to stop. A graphic photo taken at the scene is now circulating widely on the internet.

As of now, there has been no formal response from UVA administration. [Edited to note the Cavalier Daily has since reported a fourth-year college student stating that UVA President Teresa Sullivan has “put in a request to Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe to open a state investigation.”]

The above picture was included in an email sent to the UVA community by a group of concerned black students, which also details the alleged incident:

This morning Martese Johnson emerged with a head injury requiring 10 stitches.

He was brutalized by Virginia ABC law enforcement outside of Trinity Irish Pub. His face was bloodied. His body was bruised.

Outside of the doors of Trinity Irish Pub, a mass of University students bore witness to the officer’s animalistic, insensitive, and brute handling of Martese. He was left with his blood splattered on the pavement of University Avenue.

Today, we are reminded of the gruesome reality that we are not immune to injustice; as University students, we are not impervious to the brutality that has reeled on news cycles around the country. We have marched and shouted that we are Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, but the proximity of this morning’s brutality to a member of our community has deepened that wound. It is no longer happening only on national television—it is a reality here and now at the University of Virginia that we must face as a collective.

After Martese was denied entry to the bar, he found himself suddenly flung to the ground. The brutish force used resulted in his head and bodily injuries. His treatment was unprovoked as he did not resist questioning or arrest. In confusion, with blood painting his face and creating a pool on the bricks of the corner, he yelled out for mercy. Though he lay bleeding and crying out, officers continued to hold him to the pavement, pinning him down, twisting his arm, with knees to his back until he was handcuffed.

As students pleaded with officers to lift Martese from the ground they were pushed away, and some were even handcuffed and threatened with possible arrest if they did not leave the scene.


We demand there be a swift and thorough investigation on the state, local, and University levels. We have seen what happens at the University when we allow problems we have long known exist to be handled quietly, so we will not be quiet. We demand noise from each other, noise from professors, noise from administrators. Martese, like any other student at this university, like any other person in this country and in this world, deserves more than our uproar: he deserves follow through and intentional action.

Look forward to a follow up email regarding further plans and actions.

Sincerely,

Concerned Black Students

According to the Cavalier Daily, Johnson was “arrested on charges of resisting arrest, obstructing justice without threats of force, and profane swearing or intoxication in public” and held in jail overnight.

Martese Johnson is a highly involved student at the University of Virginia: an Italian and Media Studies major who plans on going into business, a member of the Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity (a historically black frat), a leadership development chair in the Black Student Association; he was also a leader in the major student governing body (the Honor Committee). Sources tell me he was also an IMP: a member of a prestigious semi-secret society, one of three major secret societies on grounds.

My nephew an honor student at UVA assaulted last night by police #BlackLivesMatter #justice #MarteseJohnsonpic.twitter.com/0X5WXpE83V

A march is being organized in Charlottesville for 8 p.m. tonight, from the main landmark on campus—the Rotunda—to the police department downtown. No incidents of prejudicial violence on this scale have occurred at the University of Virginia in recent memory, although the racial climate in Charlottesville is what you might expect from a relatively conservative institution founded by Thomas Jefferson. Graduate student Maya Hislop told me, “Black students on grounds are highly familiar with this kind of abuse (denied access to places, checking IDs of black students and not checking IDs of white students), but I do not know that it has ever been this violent.”

She added, “We knew that increased police presence for the protection of women would have a negative impact on black students. It sucks that we had to be proven right this way.”

[Post was updated to add the details about Johnson’s arrest and Sullivan’s response as reported by the Cavalier Daily, as well as the second photo of Johnson.]


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Yep, this seems to be a "thing" going with the ABC cops in Charlottesville (not any other level of police--the police of the independent city Charlottesville, or of Albemarle County, which surrounds C'ville, or with the University of Virginia police, or with the State police--the governor has already called for an investigation of this). So, it's not indicative the cop situation in general. I trust it will wind up with even more ABC heads rolling. Because what apparently was snipped from this excerpt (and this goes to a claim Sean Renard made on another thread) was that this is the second incident with UVa students and ABC cops in the last two year. Two years ago, a female UVa student was accosted by armed and uniformed ABC cops outside of a Harris Teeter grocery store near the university campus and arrested for underage beer purchase--when what she bought in the grocery store was a flat of designer water. They didn't bother to verify in the store that she was buying beer and they accosted her in the parking lot, guns drawn, and not in uniform. She tried to drive away from them and they arrested her and threw her in the slammer. Months later, though (reading this, Sean?), the three top heads at ABC Virginia were lopped off, ABC cops were dressed down (they were operating within then regulations, so could only be touched in a civil suit), regulations were changed, and the female student is $212,500 richer.

So, in that case the cops didn't go unpunished--even from being within their current regulations. And I don't think in this case they'll go unpunished either. So, let's not go running off on the "cops get away with" dogmatic routine here without letting this play out. (But why do I think I'm wasting my time on that with the folks posting to this forum).

Meanwhile, up the road in the small town of Standardsville, a white cop who shot and killed a white woman (I only include race because it seems to make all the world of difference to some here) who had been just sitting in a car in a library parking lot (sitting there for a real, real long time, not incidentally--which is why the cop was called in) and who pulled her car away from him and clipped him when he went to check her out, is sitting in a prison convicted of murder and just has had his appeal denied. So, maybe in your neighborhood cops never get punished for inappropriate behavior with citizens, but not so in my neighborhood.
 
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Journalist poses the question-

This story - fairly or not - puts Penn State back out there as a target for public scrutiny. Are you worried about this raising that issue of a Penn State "culture problem" all over again?

"There's no Penn State culture in there."

- Penn State President, Eric Barron

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in...state_president_eric_barr_8.html#incart_river

*gsgs comment- It appears to me, that nothing has changed, even though the whole world watched as everything ugly about Penn State was exposed.*
 
Here's an excerpt from a letter issued twenty minutes ago by UVa president Theresa Sullivan, on the incident of yesterday near the UVa campus that IrezumiKiss has posted on. We'll see if the extreme dogmatists on this forum wait to see how this unfolds before releasing their knee jerk dogmas of what always happens when black men (an underage drunk in this case being disorderly because a bar wouldn't let him in after midnight) are in a confrontation with officers (in this case, not any level of local police, but officers of the state-level Alcohol Beverage Control agency).


"Yesterday I wrote to our students and employees to express my deep concern about an incident that occurred on The Corner, and to provide information about immediate steps that I have taken in response. As the safety and security of our students is my primary concern, I write today to share this information with you.

"At about 12:45 a.m. on March 18th, one of our students was injured while Virginia Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) agents were attempting to take him into custody on the sidewalk in front of Trinity Irish Pub. University Police and Charlottesville Police arrived on the scene shortly after the incident occurred. We have not yet clarified all of the details surrounding this event, but we are seeking to do so as quickly as possible.

"Later that morning I met with Charlottesville Police Chief Tim Longo and University Police Chief Mike Gibson in an effort to learn more about the incident. Furthermore, because ABC is a state agency, I contacted the Governor’s office to ask for an independent investigation of the incident. In response, Governor McAuliffe has asked the Secretary of Public Safety to initiate an independent Virginia State Police investigation into the use of force in this matter. This investigation is underway.

"Members of our community should feel safe from the threat of bodily harm and other forms of violence. Today, our community stands unified in our commitment to seeking the truth about this incident. And we stand united in our belief that equal treatment and equal justice are among our fundamental rights under the law."
 
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Well, that was interesting.
The question was what to do about the foreign fighters who leave countries to fight for IS or whatever and then come back home.

The choices were:
Don't let them back in
Try them for treason
Rehabilitate them
Make them stateless

The Islamic speakers were saying unless a person is a dual citizen, they should not be able to fight for another country, also that by the time these people leave it is too late to deradicalize them, it must start when they are much younger. They wanted to be hard line based on laws and absolute rules and apply to everyone, including the french foreign legion and mercenaries.

Since some fighters come back immediately disillusioned with it, some speakers thought they should be a separate case.

Some of the Dutch speakers were actually considering letting people who did public beheadings back in the country! Others were not so inclined.

Everyone agreed that it was a very hard question.
 
That's not the least bit funny. I don't give a shit what your justification is in trying to make light of the deaths of ANY innocent children. It's fucking sickening.

Its beyond sickening....

I'm not a regular on the GB can someone explain to me why certain posters here are called out for their racism, but no one seems to ride this anti-Semitic pig?
 
March 12, 2015

Witness to Eric Garner chokehold death, suffers injustice, framed by NYPD
They went after his family.

"Is There An Agenda Behind The Way The Police Are Treating The Man That Filmed The Eric Garner Killing?"


Danette Chavis tell what she knows about what happened to the witness and his family, after he stood up for Eric Garner.

False weapon charges. No fingerprints, no DNA, inconclusive.

False drug charges.

The videotape was made on July 17, 2014

The NYPD has been seeking revenge against the witness for recording the truth, since then.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2015/0...-the-man-that-filmed-the-eric-garner-killing/


A New York state judge has refused to release grand jury testimony about the death last year of Eric Garner on Staten Island.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...e-of-grand-jury-testimony-in-eric-garner-case

Eric Garner’s Wikipedia page was edited from an NYPD computer, NYPD admits


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...edited-from-an-nypd-computer-the-nypd-admits/
 
zumi, there are so many shootings, at Walmart!

"...Matthew 24- The End of Days..."

"The incident began when a female employee who was going to the bathroom was shoved out of the way by one of the suspects..."

"The incident started Saturday night when a female Walmart employee was shoved aside when she tried to enter a restroom..."


"The family had reportedly been staying outside the Cottonwood store for several days and were living in a..."


http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/03/23/3714336_boise-residents-charged-in-arizona.html?rh=1

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...family-arrested-in-cottonwood-melee/70346668/
 
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