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Stories like this just keep surprising me despite my already well entrenched cynicism in terms of faith in the human race...guess the faith in this was that someone did notify authorities the moment they suspected all was not well instead of pretending not to know anything.

Catalina:catroar:
 
Catalina, there's been quite a few similar cases of parents neglecting and torturing their children lately in the news.

DOCS/ Authorities aren't particularly up to scratch, and people don't want to stick their nose in other peoples business, or are worried about themselves rather than children.

Something else that is getting to me is the ongoing lack of action happening in isolated indigenous communities where sexual abuse of children is commonplace.

Bureaucratic crap.

Fuel hit more than $1.70 in Adelaide this week.

Oh, my favourite news item is this one:

17 teens pregnant after baby 'pact'
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23893566-401,00.html

I wonder if the $5000 you get from the government was an incentive in that scenario.

I also read in the 'news quirks' in he paper today that a staffy terrier used a trampoline to escape his yard in England. teehee smart pup!
 
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pinkeden said:
Catalina, there's been quite a few similar cases of parents neglecting and torturing their children lately in the news.

DOCS/ Authorities aren't particularly up to scratch, and people don't want to stick their nose in other peoples business, or are worried about themselves rather than children.

Something else that is getting to me is the ongoing lack of action happening in isolated indigenous communities where sexual abuse of children is (apparently) commonplace.

Bureaucratic crap.

Fuel hit more than $1.70 in Adelaide this week.
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I'm aware of the cases in Oz, but thankfully this one was not an Oz one this time. DOCS has never been up to scratch, but to be fair, they are one government department hugely overworked with huge lack of resources and support. When I was training in social work, the university advised people to not look at becoming a DOCS worker as a long term career choice....the average worker lasted 6-12 months max before burn out. It is not a pretty job and rarely gets thanks when done well, but always gets outed when they slip up.

As to sexual abuse being commonplace in indigenous communities..firstly I think it is more highlighted and reported than in white Australia because it is a soft and easy target, it also provides another reason for White Australia to pull out when they want to point out how bad the indigenous people are and how undeserving they are of any rights or priviledges. I also think given they are under the government microscope continuously, it is not as easily disguised and hidden as in the assumed safer urban landscapes of middle and upper class Oz. Most of all though I think it is a symptom of a much larger problem which is still not being adequately acknowledged or addressed concerning the history of white Australia at the huge cost of and to the indigenous culture, lifestyle, and freedom to be.

Catalina:catroar:
 
Ah, well it isn't good anywhere it happens. I must have gotten confused. Just a little sensitive, considering a pair of 18 month of twins were found murdered, starved and tortured recently.

I completely agree with you in regards to the easy targeting, and the ignorance of the bigger, swept-under-the-rug issue with White Australia and the actual effect we have had and still have on this people.

They have such a different culture, way of living, set of laws and traditions and we came and completely shattered it with no understanding, integration or anything like that, and it is now their fault and problem to deal with.

A large part of the problem with the indigenous communities is the lack of correct education or a properly communicated understanding of what is 'right' and 'wrong'.

I read another story a while back where a number of elders that met with govt. representatives explained that a majority of their people don't understand what 'rape' is defined as, along with a number of other ('basic' to white people) terms.

It kind of makes me wonder, who are we to judge whether people deserve rights and privileges as you pointed out, when they probably don't even properly understand what rights and privileges are, since their people weren't even given a chance in the first place.

And in regards to DOCS, I've heard everything you've said before. I have a friend who lasted about 8 months with them. She was shocked because she felt they were more interested in statistical standards than actually helping children.

The town I live in has a very high rate of child abuse, and blind eyes.

(Apologies if I'm rambling and a bit nonsensical, sick and it is late.)
 
pinkeden said:
She was shocked because she felt they were more interested in statistical standards than actually helping children.

The town I live in has a very high rate of child abuse, and blind eyes.

(Apologies if I'm rambling and a bit nonsensical, sick and it is late.)
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No need for apologies. The statistical thing is endemic to government run and/or funded agencies. To get funded and/or continue operating it is vital to keep the figures up. It becomes more important than actually being successful at what they are meant to do in a sense that it becomes like a dog chasing it's tail...it seems very important, but when caught, why it was so important in the very first instance (before it came into fruition as an entity) is forgotten by many. I refused to play the game instead sticking to the principles of practice for which I originally went into social work and was considered an oddity by many who were not motivated as much by changing things for the better as maintaining a need for their existence at the cost of their clients. I don't regret it, I can still sleep at night and know what I did counted for more than for creating a budget to present for justification....lol, and it was challenging and satisfying when anything that required more than the usual standard amount of effort, intelligence and skill was automatically passed onto me with the acknowledgment I was the only one considered capable to handle it, not to mention the only one willing and with enough patience to hang in as long as needed.:)

Cataline:catroar:
 
:eek:

'With the exception of the cross-burning episode ... I believe John Freshwater is teaching the values of the parents in the Mount Vernon school district.'

http://hosted.ap.org/photos/A/ac5d0932-340f-4e9d-b0a6-f37fc9a4280b-big.jpg

"Ohio Teacher Burned Cross on Kids' Arms"

MOUNT VERNON, Ohio (AP) -- A public school teacher preached his Christian beliefs despite complaints by other teachers and administrators and used a device to burn the image of a cross on students' arms, according to a report by independent investigators.

Mount Vernon Middle School teacher John Freshwater also taught creationism in his science class and was insubordinate in failing to remove a Bible and other religious materials from his classroom, the report said.

School board members were scheduled to meet Friday afternoon to discuss the findings by consulting firm H.R. On Call Inc., hired by the district to investigate. The report was released Thursday.

School Superintendent Stephen Short wouldn't comment on the report before Friday's meeting, his office said. A message seeking comment was left for Freshwater's attorney, Roger Weaver.

The report comes one week after a family filed a federal lawsuit in Columbus against Freshwater and the school district, saying Freshwater burned a cross on their child's arm that remained for three or four weeks.

Freshwater's friend Dave Daubenmire defended him.

"With the exception of the cross-burning episode ... I believe John Freshwater is teaching the values of the parents in the Mount Vernon school district," he told The Columbus Dispatch in a story published Friday.

Several students interviewed by investigators described Freshwater, who has been employed by the school district for 21 years, as a great guy.

But Lynda Weston, the district's director of teaching and learning, told investigators that she has dealt with complaints about Freshwater for much of her 11-year term at the district, the report said.

A former superintendent, Jeff Maley, said he tried to find another position for Freshwater but couldn't because Freshwater was certified only in science, the report said.

Freshwater used a science tool known as a high-frequency generator to burn images of a cross on students' arms in December, the report said. Freshwater told investigators he simply was trying to demonstrate the device on several students and described the images as an "X," not a cross. But pictures show the images depict a cross, the report said.

Other findings show that Freshwater taught that carbon dating was unreliable to argue against evolution.​

And some people wonder why parents are more and more sending their kids to private schools - even religious/faith-based private schools - or home-schooling them? :rolleyes:
 
Sir_Winston54 said:
:eek:

'With the exception of the cross-burning episode ... I believe John Freshwater is teaching the values of the parents in the Mount Vernon school district.'

And some people wonder why parents are more and more sending their kids to private schools - even religious/faith-based private schools - or home-schooling them? :rolleyes:
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Woah. That is just messed up. at a public school?

catalina_francisco said:
No need for apologies. The statistical thing is endemic to government run and/or funded agencies......
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I've worked within a government agency that was trying to provide cultural opportunities and services to the public, it is difficult to meet the balance between KPI's and providing patrons what they deserve in the capacity they deserve.

I have also been (formally as a client) and informally involved within the social work sector, and it is something I would be interested in going into. However I have been burnt a few times. That's what happens when you work with organisations that are incredibly disorganised. Truth is, most of them are.

There's an article on the news.com.au website today, again about indigenous communities and the situations they are in again today. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23898640-2,00.html if you're interested :)
 
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This is going to make a few of the ladies here unhappy I imagine...have to say it will not seem quite the same without his being there.:(

Catalina:catroar:
 
catalina_francisco said:
This is going to make a few of the ladies here unhappy I imagine...have to say it will not seem quite the same without his being there.:(

Catalina:catroar:
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There have been one or two others leaving lately too - Gary Dourdan (Warrick also of CSI) was killed off (maybe?) at the end of the last season, Khandi Alexander (Alex Woods, CSI Miami) has left, and one of my favourites Mandy Patinkin from Criminal Minds :( Joe Mantegna is good as his replacement but I dare say I have yet to get used to him - the new season has just started here (4 episodes in).
 
WriterDom said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080825...od_to_pitch;_ylt=AicDrDCEk0gGv_FOTQQUhfMuQE4F

Too good to pitch. :rolleyes:
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That is truly, truly saddening, and sickening. Does anyone else hear the faint echo of John Galt's voice, dying off in the distance?

(For those who didn't click the article:

9-year-old boy told he's too good to pitch
By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN,
Associated Press Writer

NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Nine-year-old Jericho Scott is a good baseball player — too good, it turns out. The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.

Officials for the three-year-old league, which has eight teams and about 100 players, said they will disband Jericho's team, redistributing its players among other squads, and offered to refund $50 sign-up fees to anyone who asks for it. They say Jericho's coach, Wilfred Vidro, has resigned.

But Vidro says he didn't quit and the team refuses to disband. Players and parents held a protest at the league's field on Saturday urging the league to let Jericho pitch. "He's never hurt any one," Vidro said. "He's on target all the time. How can you punish a kid for being too good?"

The controversy bothers Jericho, who says he misses pitching. "I feel sad," he said. "I feel like it's all my fault nobody could play."

Jericho's coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league's administrators. Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching.

"I think it's discouraging when you're telling a 9-year-old you're too good at something," said his mother, Nicole Scott. "The whole objective in life is to find something you're good at and stick with it. I'd rather he spend all his time on the baseball field than idolizing someone standing on the street corner."

League attorney Peter Noble says the only factor in banning Jericho from the mound is his pitches are just too fast. "He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower," Noble said. "There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport."

Noble acknowledged that Jericho had not beaned any batters in the co-ed league of 8- to 10-year-olds, but say parents expressed safety concerns. "Facing that kind of speed" is frighteneing [sic] for beginning players, Noble said.

League officials say they first told Vidro that the boy could not pitch after a game on Aug. 13. Jericho played second base the next game on Aug. 16. But when he took the mound Wednesday, the other team walked off and a forfeit was called.

League officials say Jericho's mother became irate, threatening them and vowing to get the league shut down. "I have never seen behavior of a parent like the behavior Jericho's mother exhibited Wednesday night," Noble said.

Scott denies threatening any one, but said she did call the police. League officials suggested that Jericho play other positions, or pitch against older players or in a different league.

Local attorney John Williams was planning to meet with Jericho's parents Monday to discuss legal options. "You don't have to be learned in the law to know in your heart that it's wrong," he said. "Now you have to be punished because you excel at something?"
 
Scary, scary people


LAKELAND, Fla. -- Todd Bentley has a long night ahead of him, resurrecting the dead, healing the blind, and exploding cancerous tumors. Since April 3, the 32-year-old, heavily tattooed, body-pierced, shaved-head Canadian preacher has been leading a continuous "supernatural healing revival" in central Florida. To contain the 10,000-plus crowds flocking from around the globe, Bentley has rented baseball stadiums, arenas and airport hangars at a cost of up to $15,000 a day. Many in attendance are church pastors themselves who believe Bentley to be a prophet and don't bat an eye when he tells them he's seen King David and spoken with the Apostle Paul in heaven. "He was looking very Jewish," Bentley notes.

Tattooed across his sternum are military dog tags that read "Joel's Army." They're evidence of Bentley's generalship in a rapidly growing apocalyptic movement that's gone largely unnoticed by watchdogs of the theocratic right. According to Bentley and a handful of other "hyper-charismatic" preachers advancing the same agenda, Joel's Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force of young people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian "dominion" on non-believers.

"An end-time army has one common purpose -- to aggressively take ground for the kingdom of God under the authority of Jesus Christ, the Dread Champion," Bentley declares on the website for his ministry school in British Columbia, Canada. "The trumpet is sounding, calling on-fire, revolutionary believers to enlist in Joel's Army. ... Many are now ready to be mobilized to establish and advance God's kingdom on earth."

Joel's Army followers, many of them teenagers and young adults who believe they're members of the final generation to come of age before the end of the world, are breaking away in droves from mainline Pentecostal churches. Numbering in the tens of thousands, they base their beliefs on an esoteric reading of the second chapter of the Old Testament Book of Joel, in which an avenging swarm of locusts attacks Israel. In their view, the locusts are a metaphor for Joel's Army.
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The article goes on to state that they done nothing violent yet, but it is probably a matter of time.

Those sounding the alarm about Joel's Army are not secular foes of the Christian Right, few of whom are even aware of the movement or how widespread it's become in the past decade. Instead, Joel's Army critics are mostly conservative Christians, either neo-Pentecostals who left the movement in disgust or evangelical Christians who fear that Joel's Army preachers are stealing their flocks, even sending spies to infiltrate their own congregations and sway their young people to heresy. And they say the movement is becoming frightening.

"The pitch and intensity of the military rhetoric of this branch of the global Dominionist movement has substantially increased since the beginning of 2008," writes The Discernment Research Group, a Christian watchdog group that tracks what they call heresies or cults within Christianity. "One can only wonder how long before this transforms into real warfare with actual warriors."
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Yep, the religious right is their big critic. Or, as a commenter on Fark said, "They're more extreme than the pentecostals?"


Snide jabs at traditional church services are fairly common at Bentley's revivals. In fact, what takes place onstage at the Florida Outpouring looks more like a pro wrestling extravaganza than church. On stage, Bentley and his team of pastors, yell, chant, and scream "Fire!" and "Bam!" while anointing followers.
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It's the First Pentecostal Church of Emeril Lagasse.


According to Joel's Army doctrine, the enforcers of the five-fold ministry will be members of the final generation, for whom the landmark Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade constituted a new Passover.

"Everyone born after abortion's legalization can consider their birth a personal invitation to take part in this great army," writes John Crowder, another prominent Joel's Army pastor, who bills his 2006 book, The New Mystics: How to Become Part of the Supernatural Generation, as a literal how-to guide for joining Joel's Army.

Both Bentley and Crowder are enormously popular on Elijah's List, an online watering hole for a broad spectrum of Joel's Army enlistees, from lightweight believers who merely share an affection for military rhetoric and pastors who dress in army camouflage (several Joel's Army pastors are addressed by their congregants as "commandant" or "commander") to hardliners who believe the church is called to have an active military role in end-times that have already begun. Elijah's List currently has more than 125,000 subscribers on its electronic mailing list.
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Okay, you just should read the rest of the article on your own. Wow, there's a lot to comment on here. You really need to read the part where the tattooed (self-described) biker-punk prophet kicks the old lady in the face because god told him to.
 
Homburg said:
Scary, scary people
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Every once in awhile you run across something where you think to yourself that God is really really really in favor of something or God is really really really *NOT* in favor of something, and, you are not really sure if you want to see how God will show how that favor or disfavor.
 
Homburg said:
Scary, scary people




The article goes on to state that they done nothing violent yet, but it is probably a matter of time.



Yep, the religious right is their big critic. Or, as a commenter on Fark said, "They're more extreme than the pentecostals?"




It's the First Pentecostal Church of Emeril Lagasse.




Okay, you just should read the rest of the article on your own. Wow, there's a lot to comment on here. You really need to read the part where the tattooed (self-described) biker-punk prophet kicks the old lady in the face because god told him to.
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In the conservative fifties we just would have locked this lunatic up. End story.

I say this as someone who has had the dick of a person who was into ecstatic worship in a certain period of his life in me. I *get* that.

Kicking old woman in face because the voice in your head tells you to is not part of that program.
 
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