The Increasingly Distraught Left

amicus

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Taking note of the increasing ferocity of discussion and debate on the several News programs I watch, as the Democrats scurry for position in the upcoming 2008 Primary election season, and the corresponding fever pitch Marxist dialectic being exercised on this forum, I detect something bubbling under the surface of political thought.

The similarity of the early 60’s under Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, the ‘New Frontiers’ and ‘Great Society respectively, and the dynamics of Viet Nam and the increasing hostile anti war movement then, and the current political turmoil with the left, their socialist policies and anti war rhetoric, I sense the possibility of another McGovern type catastrophe for the Democrats in 2008.

With the likelihood of both a woman and an African American of the Democrat ballot, at least one of those, plus the anti war movement in Congress and the country at large, and the largely far left platforms of the Democrats, I think it possible for another 49 State sweep by the Republicans in the next General Election.

(Amicus mutters and mumbles fingering his beads)
 
"fingering his beads"?

heeheee


sorry. I could not resist your tiny spheroids.
 
hey, you can always hope. beats trying to get that second thumb up your own butt. :rolleyes:
 
amicus said:
(Amicus mutters and mumbles fingering his beads)

Actually, I quite like that. :D Amicus the Mad (Atheist) Monk. I needed some company.

I can't decide what to make of the next election. Passions are certainly running high. One thing that I do think the Democrats have going for them - and it's a vital thing in a campaign that, once more, is really more of a branding/marketing competition than a battle of ideas - is that they've got early name recognition. Everyone knows who the two big names in the Democratic race are, but the Republicans haven't produced a tight enough match-up to have any one or two candidates stand out. I think that that might be a problem for them; it's hard to get excited about a nebulous blob of potential candidates, and it's hard to build passionate momentum in the troops when they don't have someone specific to back until so late in the game.

I don't weigh the rhetoric much, really. Feigning wild indignation and virulent anger seems to be the only strategy many politicians have any more, on both sides of the aisle. They know that a complex, thoughtful, reasoned approach is neither colorful nor easily conveyed in soundbites, and it's often more than most voters want to hear. That sort of puffery and humbug is just embarassing to me any more - not because I think that the speakers are truly desperate men, but because it's such a ridiculously thin veneer over the shallowness of their self-interest that it's shameful to see.
 
as long as we're imagining political factions as distraught, picture ami's bunch when Thompson is found to have a 'stable' of young boys. :devil:
 
I agree Shanglan...unless something drastic occurs, and it well could, Mrs. and Mr. Clinton seemed headed back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

The Republicans await the entrance of Thompson and Gingrich and who can predict the ripples from that.

Congress is or soon will be on vacation, out in the hinterlands diddling either the DAR's or the Peace Corps volunteers.

Just to clarify; I would endorse a 'James Earl Jones or a Morgan Freeman type, but not Barack Obama, on the other hand, I would also endorse an Ann Coulter like female but not Hillary.

I have been wrong before and may be again, but I just do not think the voting public will endorse either Mrs. Clinton or Barack in the general election, which in part is the motive behind this post as the Democrat Party seems hell bent of both candidate and ideology.

We shall see. Incidentally, Gingrich is schedule on Fox news tonight in a couple hours, supposed to be some bombshell attack on Republican candidates...


amicus...
 
Pure said:
as long as we're imagining political factions as distraught, picture ami's bunch when Thompson is found to have a 'stable' of young boys. :devil:

~~~

CNN, MSNBC and the late night network talk shows are already displaying his very young (appears to be half his age) and beautiful new wife, calling her a 'Trophy Wife'.

The wags are at work.


amicus...
 
Hillary just scares me. Plain and simple. There's a vibe she puts off that just screams - antisocial and insane.

*shivers* Not sure how I'm voting. I KNOW for sure it won't be for her.
 
amicus said:
With the likelihood of both a woman and an African American of the Democrat ballot, at least one of those, plus the anti war movement in Congress and the country at large, and the largely far left platforms of the Democrats, I think it possible for another 49 State sweep by the Republicans in the next General Election.
What America needs is a young, black, lesbian, conservative front runner.

That would confuse the pants off everybody.
 
Night_Jasmine said:
Hillary just scares me. Plain and simple. There's a vibe she puts off that just screams - antisocial and insane.

*shivers* Not sure how I'm voting. I KNOW for sure it won't be for her.

Hillary is antisocial and insane? Tell the truth, you voted for Bush, didn't you.
 
Just found a photo and bio of Fred Thompson's wife...she is not that hot, 40 years old and he is 64....Not an issue I would guess, however she is an attorney with offices in Washington, D.C., and a political consultant...and that may besmirch him a bit.

amicus...
 
I think it will be another third-party voting election for me. Thus far I see nothing appealing on either side. The Foster issue sinks Clinton for me, and while I initially had some hopes that Obama might be a breath of fresh air, the speeches and comments I've seen from him have utterly crushed that fleeting moment of optimism. The Republicans appear to have decided to beat the Democrats at their own game; so far as I can tell, the one platform plank they all have in common is "I'm not George Bush." No one on either side appears capable of locating a solid, bedrock principle without checking the latest polls; no one seems to stand for anything other than not being George Bush.

Depressing. I can't remember an election that's presented a worse range of options.
 
i like richardson for the dems; he has a ghost of a chance.

either mitt or guiliani would do as republicans, for me. (i even like Arnie!) healthcare has come to Mass., under Mitt. also he's a somewhat (has distinguished, wealthy family) selfmade business success--the opposite to George B.

i think overall the dems will do well, since, contrary to Ami, they have shifted right. guys like Jim Webb are going to trounce the chickhawks and blowhards. (Webb is unusually literate, and writes extremely well).
 
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