The "I don't want to talk about AI" thread, and the new topic is: something that rhymes with "clicks"

[stickygirl]

Shoulder for me. But I got the groceries in in one fucking trip. My legs almost buckled, but it was my left shoulder that took the brunt of the damage considering it was already injured, lol.

We have shopping trolleys at supermarkets over here. It sounds like you guys have to walk to the next valley to find food.

 

[stickygirl]

New from Ronco this year, as seen on TV, Popeil 6000 clit burner rotating vibrator, with magic rib technology. And speaking of 6,000, that's the revolutions per minute. It also has an inch saft that moves in and out at the same fantastic speed, and clit stimulator that'll literally burn your clitoris right off.

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Remember, it extends an amazing six inches once it's going! Ready for a good stretching?


My responce, Nooo!

I'm not sure you would feel 6000rpm ...other than watching your skin being removed I suppose.

 

[Erozetta]

We have shopping trolleys at supermarkets over here. It sounds like you guys have to walk to the next valley to find food.

It's the getting it from the car and into the house/work that's the problem.. particularly when stairs are involved.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yeah, I just went for somewhere just over the top, and shot even higher.

I'm not sure you would feel 6000rpm ...other than watching your skin being removed I suppose.

 

[Britva415]

the new topic is: technologies we'd rather have instead of AI

Anti-microwaves.

Something which works just like a microwave, but removes heat instead of adding it. So you can freeze stuff in minutes or chill stuff in seconds

Or quickly take the edge off the stupid hot-spots the microwave makes

 

[NuclearFairy]

Anti-microwaves.

Something which works just like a microwave, but removes heat instead of adding it. So you can freeze stuff in minutes or chill stuff in seconds

Or quickly take the edge off the stupid hot-spots the microwave makes

So like a mini flash freezer?

 

[Britva415]

So like a mini flash freezer?

No, unless you consider a mini air fryer to be like a microwave. It's not.

 

[ColtonWrites]

No, unless you consider a mini air fryer to be like a microwave. It's not.

Anti-griddle kinda sorta?

I've seen them on cooking shows. Like a big flat cold plate, sort of the opposite of a panini press.

If we're talking cooking technologies - I want someone to invent a decent fucking gluten-free bread that doesn't cost $7 for half a loaf.

I have a bread machine. I'd settle for a RECIPE at this point. Everything I try turns into a brick. And with the cost of gluten-free flour, they're EXPENSIVE bricks.

 

[dirk2024]

If we're talking cooking technologies - I want someone to invent a decent fucking gluten-free bread that doesn't cost $7 for half a loaf.

I have a bread machine. I'd settle for a RECIPE at this point. Everything I try turns into a brick. And with the cost of gluten-free flour, they're EXPENSIVE bricks.

Yes, please!

 

[Britva415]

Anti-griddle kinda sorta?

I've seen them on cooking shows. Like a big flat cold plate, sort of the opposite of a panini press.

Nah, think more like "magic cold ray in a box with buttons on the front."

That's what microwaves are like, right? Magic rays that put heat into food, fast? That's what I want: magic rays that take heat out, fast.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Nah, think more like "magic cold ray in a box with buttons on the front."

That's what microwaves are like, right? Magic rays that put heat into food, fast? That's what I want: magic rays that take heat out, fast.

What happens if I put tin foil in it?

 

[dirk2024]

What happens if I put tin foil in it?

Silly, everyone knows the tinfoil is for fashioning into a cap to protect your brain.

 

[NuclearFairy]

Silly, everyone knows the tinfoil is for fashioning into a cap to protect your brain.

Oh, and here I've been using it to protect my corn and potatoes. Silly me.

 

[Britva415]

What happens if I put tin foil in it?

I don't know what the opposite of sparks is

Static ice-energy discharges?

 

[Britva415]

Microwave oven... tinfoil hat...

I feel like there's a Sylvia Plath joke in there somewhere.

 

[TheLobster]

That's what microwaves are like, right? Magic rays that put heat into food, fast? That's what I want: magic rays that take heat out, fast.

I feel like there is some physical principle that prevents something like this from existing, but I cannot put my finger on it.

Magic should work though!

 

[stickygirl]

What happens if I put tin foil in it?

It fractures time, which is why the technology has never been commercialised. Just one domestic quark freezer wouldn't be a problem, but if they were sold at volume the fear is those tiny fractures would join up and whole streets would start slipping into a different timeline. The folks up on Capitol Hill had one for a few weeks and... here we are... there's a couple of threads in Politics that are covering it.

 

[Z_TheWriter]

I feel like there is some physical principle that prevents something like this from existing, but I cannot put my finger on it.

Magic should work though!

(This is a bit oversimplified, and may show signs of it being a while since my last physics class)

The trouble is conservation of energy. Heat is a form of energy. Energy can never be destroyed, although it can be transferred or converted into other types of energy.

When you use a microwave, you're converting the electrical energy in your outlet into thermal energy (heat) - with a couple of steps in between. That's fairly simple. The problem of going the other way is that it is rather cumbersome to convert thermal energy into other forms of energy, and it is generally very difficult to do with very low amounts of heat. You can't run a steam turbine for instance, off the heat that's in a room temperature muffin.

This is why, when we cool food in a fridge or freezer, the heat in the food isn't converted, but simply transferred. Heat moves from a hotter object to a cooler object on its own. Of course this requires the fridge to be cooled in the first place, but the methods for doing this generally rely on condensation and evaporation of certain liquids, and so cannot be applied to any random object. You'll also notice, if you go around the back of it, that your fridge actually generates a fair amount of heat by this process, it is just kept outside the fridge itself.

 

[Bamagan]

I feel like there is some physical principle that prevents something like this from existing, but I cannot put my finger on it.

Magic should work though!

A possible answer:
High-energy microwave beams lose some or all of that energy when they collide with the stuff in the microwave oven, heating said stuff. The process is basically the same throughout the normal space-time universe: when things interact, energy is transferred from the higher-energy thing to the lower-energy thing, which generally results in heat (as well as possibly other fun things).

So, one of the problems of a reverse-microwave oven is that it can't actively emit any kind of radiation that would result in a lower energy state for its contents. Any beam that could 'steal' energy from something it struck would immediately release at least some of that stolen energy as heat anyway, and likely couldn't 'return' to the oven itself with the stolen energy to remove it from the environment inside the oven to make said environment colder.

More generally speaking, we do have ways of cooling things down very rapidly, such as by exposure to liquid nitrogen or similar substances. The problem is, as you may have noticed if you've ever seen them in action, the rapid loss of energy tends to be catastrophically destructive to most chemical bonds, which simply don't have time to reconfigure themselves into stable lower-energy configurations.

So, even if a reverse microwave oven could work, it's likely that it would render anything inside it into a pile of frozen trash.

Now, if the super-cooler worked by accelerating the passage of time for the contents inside, such that they lost energy at a normal rate from their perspective but much faster than from ours...

 

[TheLobster]

(This is a bit oversimplified, and may show signs of it being a while since my last physics class)

The trouble is conservation of energy. Heat is a form of energy. Energy can never be destroyed, although it can be transferred or converted into other types of energy.

When you use a microwave, you're converting the electrical energy in your outlet into thermal energy (heat) - with a couple of steps in between. That's fairly simple. The problem of going the other way is that it is rather cumbersome to convert thermal energy into other forms of energy, and it is generally very difficult to do with very low amounts of heat. You can't run a steam turbine for instance, off the heat that's in a room temperature muffin.

This is why, when we cool food in a fridge or freezer, the heat in the food isn't converted, but simply transferred. Heat moves from a hotter object to a cooler object on its own. Of course this requires the fridge to be cooled in the first place, but the methods for doing this generally rely on condensation and evaporation of certain liquids, and so cannot be applied to any random object. You'll also notice, if you go around the back of it, that your fridge actually generates a fair amount of heat by this process, it is just kept outside the fridge itself.

I think the bottom line is that we can excite particles with electromagnetic waves but we don't know how to do the reverse. The fact that said waves can only carry thermal heat into the absorber and not the other way around seems oddly similar to how gravity only works one way.

 

[Z_TheWriter]

Now, if the super-cooler worked by accelerating the passage of time for the contents inside, such that they lost energy at a normal rate from their perspective but much faster than from ours...

This is quite an interesting thought, but would still require somewhere for that energy to go. Perhaps we have something ultra cold inside the super-cooler to begin with, which is suspended in a field of slow time to limit heating.

 

[MrPixel]

Answer 1: Just pour liquid CO2 over it and be done with it.

Answer 2: Entropy.

 

[Bamagan]

This is quite an interesting thought, but would still require somewhere for that energy to go. Perhaps we have something ultra cold inside the super-cooler to begin with, which is suspended in a field of slow time to limit heating.

The energy is sent into the past, obviously, in order to provide power for distorting time. It's also how you know when to put the hot stuff in: a light turns green to indicate energy arriving from the future.

 

[TheLobster]

Looking back at this discussion, I am now appalled that we, erotica writers, have been tricked into brainstorming ideas how to make things less hot

 

[Z_TheWriter]

Looking back at this discussion, I am now appalled that we, erotica writers, have been tricked into brainstorming ideas how to make things less hot

Contrasts are important, something being hot all the time isn't actually very sexy - at least in a longer story. Gotta cool things down sometimes, so they can heat up again.

Fun fact: When you touch an object, the thing you're feeling isn't actually the temperature of that object, but the transfer of heat between it and your fingers. This is why different things seem different temperatures in the same environment. Metal transfers heat more quickly, and so will seem colder at room temperature than for instance wood. Conversely touching very hot wood quickly won't hurt as much as doing the same with metal, because of the slower heat transfer.