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The Asian Mystique

'Lo, Matthew!
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I'm just going to post my reflections on The Asian Mystique as I go, in here, that'll give me a good excuse to slowly work my way through Ogg's videos and check up on whoever TX has posted lately :devil:, er in a purely academic and objective fashion :cool:.

Anyone else feel free to join in with your thoughts - even without reading the book, although if you do that you must also post flowers and chocolates for Matthew and me.

The book is less academic than I was expecting, which might be a good thing. Also it's a little strange to read something by a white American woman, when I'm a British Asian woman. (BTW, we of course mean South Asian when we say Asian! but I shall go with the American definition as the book does.) Reading Scheherazade Goes West was like looking from another pair of eyes inside my kind of life at the outside, while this is like looking back through other eyes at myself. (What WEB DuBois called double perspective.)

I lived in Thailand for a little while as a child, although I wasn't taken along to the strip bars to see women propel ping-pong balls across the room, LOL.

I shall probably write a blogpost when I finish but I thought it might be fun to chat about the book as we go, my dear. Thank you for recommending it.
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But, I have actually come in here with a serious purpose. My friends in the lesbian and bisexual Muslim women's group have got a conference coming up in London in July. Please promote this if you can, and if you have got a spare penny or dime, send it to them as they are a really wonderful team of people who are working hard to get good policy made for people who have a lean deal on several fronts.

Details of the conference here:
http://www.safraproject.org/spconf2013.htm
Thank you for this! I would have loved to attend but sadly I'm on the wrong continent. I've sent my friend in London the link though and hopefully will learn about it secondhand. :cathappy:
 
Thank you for this! I would have loved to attend but sadly I'm on the wrong continent. I've sent my friend in London the link though and hopefully will learn about it secondhand. :cathappy:

I'll um, try to pick up some feedback on the event and post ;). Please circulate in any networks, I'm sure they'd appreciate messages of support and any kind of input. They are very good about putting together social policy work in this area (see their report).

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I'll um, try to pick up some feedback on the event and post ;). Please circulate in any networks, I'm sure they'd appreciate messages of support and any kind of input. They are very good about putting together social policy work in this area (see their report).

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I could circulate but all the mailing lists I am part of are in the US/Canada. Would that help at all?
 
I could circulate but all the mailing lists I am part of are in the US/Canada. Would that help at all?

I really think it would. The networks are so small, and any input I think is helpful. It's hard to spread the word about these events, people who work in this field have to be very brave - or some might say stupid! but it has to be done one day, my dear - to put our heads up and say that there is something going on here. (I know I lost one job for saying I do work in this area, LOL - good riddance to them!)

Sometimes isolated people even just like to hear about things going on a long way away, and make contact, so I think it's well worth just telling everyone and getting them to spread the word. Even I only got to hear about this event on FB via another friend, and I've done more research on this than anyone else! :eek: It's a tough call because you want to let people know who will want to know, without drawing undue attention from homophobes. The organisers think carefully about security, they've done events in the past. Feminist and other sympathetic thinkers, writers and artists spreading the word through personal networks is a good way to make sure it happens, that people hear about the good work, and it's kept as safe as possible.
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I really think it would. The networks are so small, and any input I think is helpful. It's hard to spread the word about these events, people who work in this field have to be very brave - or some might say stupid! but it has to be done one day, my dear - to put our heads up and say that there is something going on here. (I know I lost one job for saying I do work in this area, LOL - good riddance to them!)

Sometimes isolated people even just like to hear about things going on a long way away, and make contact, so I think it's well worth just telling everyone and getting them to spread the word. Even I only got to hear about this event on FB via another friend, and I've done more research on this than anyone else! :eek: It's a tough call because you want to let people know who will want to know, without drawing undue attention from homophobes. The organisers think carefully about security, they've done events in the past. Feminist and other sympathetic thinkers, writers and artists spreading the word through personal networks is a good way to make sure it happens, that people hear about the good work, and it's kept as safe as possible.
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Right, then. Will send it off. :)

Will also ask my friend in London (who's working in the Muslim Sexuality area) to promote it. She probably knows way more people who'd be interested.
 
Right, then. Will send it off. :)

Will also ask my friend in London (who's working in the Muslim Sexuality area) to promote it. She probably knows way more people who'd be interested.

Great! Let's give it a good whirl, these women really really deserve it, they've been quietly working away for years in a typical modest Muslim fashion. They are witty lovely and devout women, for whom I have total respect. You can imagine how tough the lives of some of them have been, and they just give back to the world. They are the best.
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'Lo, Matthew!
:rose:

I'm just going to post my reflections on The Asian Mystique as I go, in here, that'll give me a good excuse to slowly work my way through Ogg's videos and check up on whoever TX has posted lately :devil:, er in a purely academic and objective fashion :cool:.

Anyone else feel free to join in with your thoughts - even without reading the book, although if you do that you must also post flowers and chocolates for Matthew and me.

The book is less academic than I was expecting, which might be a good thing. Also it's a little strange to read something by a white American woman, when I'm a British Asian woman. (BTW, we of course mean South Asian when we say Asian! but I shall go with the American definition as the book does.) Reading Scheherazade Goes West was like looking from another pair of eyes inside my kind of life at the outside, while this is like looking back through other eyes at myself. (What WEB DuBois called double perspective.)

I lived in Thailand for a little while as a child, although I wasn't taken along to the strip bars to see women propel ping-pong balls across the room, LOL.

I shall probably write a blogpost when I finish but I thought it might be fun to chat about the book as we go, my dear. Thank you for recommending it.
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Well I like the flowers and chocolates condition. And yeah, it's not wicked academic, but I like it the way it is. It's easily readable, while still making a lot of points that I at least hadn't considered before.

At some point, the book mentions this Calgon commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjNRXfRXnoc It's...kinda bizarre watching it. What on earth is the wife wearing? Futurama mentions it in one episode, which I noticed while watching with a friend, and I was like, "Hey, they just references a 70s laundry commercial!" He must have thought I was nuts.

I ought to re-read The Asian Mystique so I can keep up with you.
 
Well I like the flowers and chocolates condition. And yeah, it's not wicked academic, but I like it the way it is. It's easily readable, while still making a lot of points that I at least hadn't considered before.

At some point, the book mentions this Calgon commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjNRXfRXnoc It's...kinda bizarre watching it. What on earth is the wife wearing? Futurama mentions it in one episode, which I noticed while watching with a friend, and I was like, "Hey, they just references a 70s laundry commercial!" He must have thought I was nuts.

I ought to re-read The Asian Mystique so I can keep up with you.

LOL, you will have no trouble keeping up with me as I have had to put The Asian Mystique aside for a couple of days while I read the most awful account of Foucault. Now I have to decide whether to explain Foucault to the students or let them write as per the drivel in the set text. (My modules teach very closely to the set texts, which is usually a good thing.)

Here are some apologetic flowers until I get back to it!

http://www.damplips.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/naked-girl-in-flowers.jpg
 
LOL, you will have no trouble keeping up with me as I have had to put The Asian Mystique aside for a couple of days while I read the most awful account of Foucault. Now I have to decide whether to explain Foucault to the students or let them write as per the drivel in the set text. (My modules teach very closely to the set texts, which is usually a good thing.)

Here are some apologetic flowers until I get back to it!

http://www.damplips.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/naked-girl-in-flowers.jpg

They have my sympathies. I never liked Foucault. I just couldn't get into him.
 
They have my sympathies. I never liked Foucault. I just couldn't get into him.

Wonderful! We can talk about that too. I love Foucault. And he actually did write all about sex! We could probably have a whole new thread about him, with pictures of naked postmodern philosophers in it. I'm sure that would be just as popular as the Arabic chicks :D.
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She's spectacular.

Re: Foucault . . . Back when I was teaching upper elementary there was a great kerfuffle in the profession that 'boys don't read!' This is nonsense. Boys read a lot. However, and this is the salient point, the gasp-bringer, the source of tears, boys don't like to read what English teachers think they should. Neither do bears. And they don't read windy Wittgensteiniens, or post-Wittgensteiniens, either.

Philosophy that has no application to the world-as-it-is wastes time and mortals have too little of that as it is.
 
Ah yes, flowers:

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She's spectacular.

Re: Foucault . . . Back when I was teaching upper elementary there was a great kerfuffle in the profession that 'boys don't read!' This is nonsense. Boys read a lot. However, and this is the salient point, the gasp-bringer, the source of tears, boys don't like to read what English teachers think they should. Neither do bears. And they don't read windy Wittgensteiniens, or post-Wittgensteiniens, either.

Philosophy that has no application to the world-as-it-is wastes time and mortals have too little of that as it is.

I developed an interest in the "wrong" Wittgenstein. Everyone loves Ludwig, no one loves Paul, the pianist who lost an arm in the war and consequently had a bunch of one-handed piano pieces composed for him, and I'm the only one who seems to prefer him. Ah well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxcXdXqLvA
 
I developed an interest in the "wrong" Wittgenstein. Everyone loves Ludwig, no one loves Paul, the pianist who lost an arm in the war and consequently had a bunch of one-handed piano pieces composed for him, and I'm the only one who seems to prefer him. Ah well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxcXdXqLvA

LOL, Paul Wittgenstein is lovely.

Oooh, I see you have surveys to answer. I love answering surveys. I'll check them out - as soon as I've done this lesson plan, fed my family, met up with the Super MILF to talk about the workshop at the burlesque show .... LOL.

'Lo, Bear. Thank you for the flowers, TX! She, I mean they, will certainly do in place of reading Scheherazade Goes West. Especially if you are throwing in a little *whispers* Dove dark chocolate?
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I developed an interest in the "wrong" Wittgenstein. Everyone loves Ludwig, no one loves Paul, the pianist who lost an arm in the war and consequently had a bunch of one-handed piano pieces composed for him, and I'm the only one who seems to prefer him. Ah well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxcXdXqLvA

Was he the one who played a duet or three with specially-created music ?
 
Was he the one who played a duet or three with specially-created music ?

Without more info, I can only say probably? Before him, there weren't a lot of good one-handed pieces, but his family was wealthy, so he was able to commission a whole bunch after he lost his arm. He was a bit of a diva about it, though, and felt that music he commissioned belonged to him and others shouldn't play it, from what I can gather.
 
She's spectacular.

Re: Foucault . . . Back when I was teaching upper elementary there was a great kerfuffle in the profession that 'boys don't read!' This is nonsense. Boys read a lot. However, and this is the salient point, the gasp-bringer, the source of tears, boys don't like to read what English teachers think they should. Neither do bears. And they don't read windy Wittgensteiniens, or post-Wittgensteiniens, either.

Philosophy that has no application to the world-as-it-is wastes time and mortals have too little of that as it is.

An academic friend of mine is fond of defining philosophy as "the process of talking to yourself and wondering why no one else listens."

More (or less?) seriously, some of us boys do read philosophy also, if only to try to understand why some read only ripping yarns. Of course, there's always writers like Eco who can turn philosophy into some rather engaging novels. Try Foucault's Pendulum as a play on what happens if you take Foucault's Post-Modernism too seriously. And then compare it to Dan Brown's Templar claptrap.

Now, let's get back to the deconstruction of occidental erotic orientalism, or just some pics of hot Arab chicks.
 
An academic friend of mine is fond of defining philosophy as "the process of talking to yourself and wondering why no one else listens."

More (or less?) seriously, some of us boys do read philosophy also, if only to try to understand why some read only ripping yarns. Of course, there's always writers like Eco who can turn philosophy into some rather engaging novels. Try Foucault's Pendulum as a play on what happens if you take Foucault's Post-Modernism too seriously. And then compare it to Dan Brown's Templar claptrap.

Now, let's get back to the deconstruction of occidental erotic orientalism, or just some pics of hot Arab chicks.

Don't forget those of us who read 80+% non-fiction. "Go Find Out" is the greatest game ever invented, besides sex of course. The contents of someone else's head is nowhere near as interesting as the discernible world.
 
Don't forget those of us who read 80+% non-fiction. "Go Find Out" is the greatest game ever invented, besides sex of course. The contents of someone else's head is nowhere near as interesting as the discernible world.

Most assuredly, Bear; reality always offers so much more than the merely imaginary. - The inside of someone's head (including mine) is so limited when compared to the range of what actually is. But we do need our heads to appreciate it; without the brain, we can't feel a thing, and often another's brain can show ours ways of seeing that we wouldn't have stumbled upon ourselves.
 
Most assuredly, Bear; reality always offers so much more than the merely imaginary. - The inside of someone's head (including mine) is so limited when compared to the range of what actually is. But we do need our heads to appreciate it; without the brain, we can't feel a thing, and often another's brain can show ours ways of seeing that we wouldn't have stumbled upon ourselves.

Not to mention, the brain is the biggest sex organ n the body, bar none.
 
Well, um, there sure is some fascinating one-handed stuff being posted in here. I refer to Matthew's pianist, of course. I'm just going to lie down quietly and stare at ... er, I mean listen to, the music.
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(LOL)
 
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