The Government Is Cracking Down on School Bake Sales

[miles]

More liberal insanity gone wild. Sounds like The Onion, doesn't it?
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Barely a month after federal regulations for school cafeterias kicked in, states are already pushing back.

Specifically, they're fighting nutrition standards that would considerably alter one of the most sacred rituals of the American public school system: bake sales.

Twelve states have established their own policies to circumvent regulations in the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010 that apply to "competitive snacks," or any foods and beverages sold to students on school grounds that are not part of the Agriculture Department's school meal programs, according to the National Association of State Boards of Education. Competitive snacks appear in vending machines, school stores, and food and beverages, including items sold at bake sales.

Georgia is the latest state to announce an exemption to the federal regulations, which became effective July 1 for thousands of public schools across the country. Its rule would allow 30 food-related fundraising days per school year that wouldn't meet the new healthy nutritional standards, which call for more healthy options and less junk food that could contribute to the nation's child-obesity problem.

The pushback is not about students' taste buds, but their wallets. Food fundraisers are a crucial source of revenue for schools, state education officials say. "Tough economic times have translated into fewer resources and these fundraisers allow our schools to raise a considerable amount of money for very worthwhile education programs," the Georgia Department of Education wrote in a recent press release. "While we are concerned about the obesity epidemic, limiting food-and-beverage fundraisers at schools and school-related events is not the solution to solving it."

The statement called the federal guidelines on fundraisers "an absolute overreach of the federal government."

Tennessee also plans to allow 30 food-fundraising days that don't comply with federal standards per school year. Idaho will allow 10, while Illinois is slowly weaning schools off their bake sales, hoping to shrink them from an annual 36 days to nine days in the next three years. Florida and Alabama are considering creating their own exemption policies.

State-level resistance to the healthy-eating regulations has support in Washington. This spring, Republicans tried to delay implementation of new school cafeteria requirements by one year through a proposed 2015 Agriculture Department spending bill.

Proponents of the requirements, meanwhile, have scoffed at Georgia's suggestion of a War on Brownies. "Pushing back on so-called federal government overreach by allowing a huge number of unhealthy school fundraisers is not only bad politics, it's irresponsible, puts children's health at risk, and undermines parents' efforts to feed their children healthfully," Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at the Center for Science in the Public Interest told Politico on Friday. "There are plenty of healthy fundraising options that are practical—and as or more profitable than selling junk food."

Sure, they could be practical. But are they delicious?

http://www.nationaljournal.com/dome...s-cracking-down-on-school-bake-sales-20140725

 

[Lancecastor]

You just want more over reach-arounds.

 

[Disgustipated]

Miles and The Onion.

Lawlz.

 

[nowisthetime]

So what?

 

[Dream59]

Most of the "hungry" children throw away the food they are served anyway. The kids are not going to eat it if they do not like it or are unfamiliar with it.

 

[Mrtenant]

At least they are cracking down on the School Bukkake Sales.

We may have a riot then like they're having in France when Obama started shooting down all the planes with the Israeli terrorists and the pissed off Veterans denied by the GOP.

 

[nowisthetime]

Most of the "hungry" children throw away the food they are served anyway. The kids are not going to eat it if they do not like it or are unfamiliar with it.

Hmm, interesting point.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Most of the "hungry" children throw away the food they are served anyway. The kids are not going to eat it if they do not like it or are unfamiliar with it.

lil fuckers get hungry enough I gay-ron-tee they suck it down like like a pack of fuckin' hyenas.

Oh well, I think they should serve healthy stuff, if they don't like it let them be hungry. If parents cater and raise their kids on toxic waste? Fuck em'....survival of the fittest, here is to McD's !!

Kill em' all Ronald.....
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[Boxlicker101]

This is a good example of government interfering where they are not wanted and are not needed. You would think they would have more important things to do.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So the actual problem here is we underfund our schols?

 

[Que]

So the actual problem here is we underfund our schols?

Nope the problem is unionized teachers and top-heavy administration.

Charter schools do it better and cheaper, so funding is definitely not the issue. Never has been.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We do not want parental involvement in the schools, and that is what happens during a bake sale, families working together to work for their community.



That shit sounds too much like personal responsibility and parental involvement at the expense of Government Bureaucratic necessity.

 

[Aquagal]

It's not the lousy school lunches that are making kids fat, they'll eat it or they won't if they're hungry enough. What's making them fat is their lazy, sedentary lifestyles in front of the video game or computer.

 

[Disgustipated]

Nope the problem is unionized teachers and top-heavy administration.

Charter schools do it better and cheaper, so funding is definitely not the issue. Never has been.

Do you do this on purpose?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Nope the problem is unionized teachers and top-heavy administration.

Charter schools do it better and cheaper, so funding is definitely not the issue. Never has been.

Funding is definitely the problem. Charters schools doing it cheaper and better has always been heavily questionable anyway because they usually have other advantages.

Unionized teachers are definitely not the problem and any claims that they are is only motivated by people who hate the middle class and want to see us suffer.

 

[phrodeau]

They arrested a kid for selling weed brownies. Is that what this is about?

 

[Sean Renaud]

It's not the lousy school lunches that are making kids fat, they'll eat it or they won't if they're hungry enough. What's making them fat is their lazy, sedentary lifestyles in front of the video game or computer.

It's both, but there are a lot of studies that suggest it has way more to do with the food we're eating than it does with our sedentary lifestyles.

 

[Que]

Funding is definitely the problem. Charters schools doing it cheaper and better has always been heavily questionable anyway because they usually have other advantages.

Unionized teachers are definitely not the problem and any claims that they are is only motivated by people who hate the middle class and want to see us suffer.

The claim is made by people IN the middle class who hate having their tax dollars wasted for an inferior product that in some places is compulsory.

The only people who DO like union teachers are union teachers and other unionists that want the union teachers (and democrats in general) in their corner when contract (not)negotiation time rolls around.

This mythical class of 1% Jewish Bankers who are trying to keep the hard-workin' overpaid union man down is nonsense. Most union members like teachers are paid for out of the union trough. Creating a "middle class" from government workers is a fools errand. Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money and you have to do something called "austerity" which mean pay people what their wages would bring for similarly difficult work with the same scaricity or redundancy characteristics.

Teachers WHINE that they are paid less than auto-mechanics..which isn't actually true on an hourly basis, and certainly not true including pensions, healthcare and other benefits. WHY does a teacher DESERVE to be in the "middle class" whatever that means, and a skilled Auto Mechanic does not? Teachers are plentiful, Auto Mechanics are scarce.

As it relates to public schools the rich don't CARE where you send your kids or that it costs your local tax base. They send their kids to private schools.

It's both, but there are a lot of studies that suggest it has way more to do with the food we're eating than it does with our sedentary lifestyles.

Definitely true. Did you see the NY Times article on that in the good reads thread? I'll see if I can find it. See Yossi's post three posts from the bottom on "Good Reads" ----> HERE

 

[Sean Renaud]

No, you don't eventually run out of other people's money. i know you guys like to keep saying that but in reality it's so much more complciated than that that it's not even funny.

Nobody said anything about the 1% being Jewish, the 1% holding the rest of us down however is not a myth it's a fact and yeah the Middle class bitch about an inferior product but they don't seem to understand all of the whys behind why they get an inferior product and their bitching is really motivated by that 1%.

Thanks for the good read, it didn't really go much into why increased exercise is unrealistic for most people though I guess it did cover it from the other end of the equation. I've also done a lot of reading that suggests (and granted I can only speak anecdotally here other than to point out a few studies) that one of the big fuck ups for people is drinking lots and soda not just because of the calories but also because our bodies don't really know how to process liquid calories for some reason. I hardly ever drink soda, like maybe once or twice a day and almost always from a can. (The can doesn't make it healtier, it just limits my serving to not a Big Gulp) And I'm bigger than I was in high school but I'm not fat. (From a social standpoint, I'm overweight by my BMI but only just) all my soda drinking peers who don't have serious work out schedules, big as houses.

 

[Ishmael]

Funding is definitely the problem. Charters schools doing it cheaper and better has always been heavily questionable anyway because they usually have other advantages.

Unionized teachers are definitely not the problem and any claims that they are is only motivated by people who hate the middle class and want to see us suffer.

Funding is NOT a problem. And the unions ARE a problem. And I noticed that you conveniently ignored the "top heavy administration" notation.

The Wash. DC school system spends $29,340/student/year and yet 83% are not proficient in reading. Why is that?

As a matter of fact if you want to do some real research you will find that for the most part (there are some exceptions) student achievement is inversely proportional to dollars spent per student per year. Why is that?

The liberal mind ignores these facts and continues to attempt to throw more money, money that isn't theirs to begin with, at a problem that just seems to get worse regardless of the extra bucks. As Einstein would quip, 'the very definition of insanity.'

I wholeheartedly agree that the public school system is failing the children, but money isn't the issue.

Why are the teachers unions so adamantly against vouchers? There is no rational reasoning that can justify their position on that matter if the goal is to truly educate the children. Children that might otherwise be brilliant students are trapped in sub-standard schools being taught by sub-standard educators. And neither the unions nor their democrat political supporters give a rats ass. The entire effort on their part is to protect the teacher no matter how shitty a job they may be doing. No employer in their right mind is going to give a raise to an employee that isn't doing their job, but that is exactly what the unions are demanding. It's as if they're saying, "Give me more money and I'll do a better job." That is not collective bargaining, that's extortion.

And speaking of sub-standard teachers, are you aware that those who are chasing a degree in education have the lowest SAT scores of any of the 4 year degree disciplines? And did you know that education majors that want to obtain a post-grad degree have the lowest GRE scores of any of the post grad school attendees? In other words the very poorest of those attending university are being charged with the education of the next generation. That doesn't sound like a prescription for success to me.

Somebody better start thinking outside the box, and that someone best not be an educator, we need smart people doing the thinking. We need it soon because more money isn't the answer, we've tried that and it doesn't work.

"Parents who send their children to government run schools are guilty of child abuse." - Neal Boortz

Ishmael

 

[NeverEndingMe]

So the actual problem here is we underfund our schols?

because we over pay teachers, they have a corrupt pension system, and some evil corrupt teachers have tenure

 

[NeverEndingMe]

booo fucking whoooo - the man isn't hold you down, playing your xbox 22 hours out of the day.

turn off the tv and get a fucking job

No, you don't eventually run out of other people's money. i know you guys like to keep saying that but in reality it's so much more complciated than that that it's not even funny.

Nobody said anything about the 1% being Jewish, the 1% holding the rest of us down however is not a myth it's a fact and yeah the Middle class bitch about an inferior product but they don't seem to understand all of the whys behind why they get an inferior product and their bitching is really motivated by that 1%.

Thanks for the good read, it didn't really go much into why increased exercise is unrealistic for most people though I guess it did cover it from the other end of the equation. I've also done a lot of reading that suggests (and granted I can only speak anecdotally here other than to point out a few studies) that one of the big fuck ups for people is drinking lots and soda not just because of the calories but also because our bodies don't really know how to process liquid calories for some reason. I hardly ever drink soda, like maybe once or twice a day and almost always from a can. (The can doesn't make it healtier, it just limits my serving to not a Big Gulp) And I'm bigger than I was in high school but I'm not fat. (From a social standpoint, I'm overweight by my BMI but only just) all my soda drinking peers who don't have serious work out schedules, big as houses.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So the actual problem here is we underfund our schols?

because we over pay teachers, they have a corrupt pension system, and some evil corrupt teachers have tenure

At this point, they've made a great pitch for the schols being underfunded...

 

[Saint Peter]

Why are the teachers unions so adamantly against vouchers?

Ishmael

1) Economy of scale. One building is less expensive than multiple buildings. Tax dollars buy more and go farther without vouchers.

2) Tax payers should not fund religious education. You want you kid to go to a private school? Great. Keep it private. Stealth christian schools are ass.

3) Promotes segregation. Rich white kids can be surrounded by rich white kids. Poor kids need not apply.

 

[Aquagal]

It's both, but there are a lot of studies that suggest it has way more to do with the food we're eating than it does with our sedentary lifestyles.

My point being schools have served shitty food for decades, but kids were a lot healthier before the video game years. Because they weren't laying on the couch all afternoon.

I get that school is trying to teach healthy living, but if it doesn't carry over to home it's moot.