The Future of Erotica: Exploring AI-Generated Content

[TheFutureOfPorn]

Dear Literotica community,

As writers and readers of erotic fiction, we all share a love for the power of storytelling to transport us to new and exciting worlds of pleasure and desire. Recently, there has been a lot of buzz in the writing community about the use of AI-generated content, and I believe that this exciting new field has the potential to revolutionize the way we think about erotica.

While some may be skeptical about the use of AI-generated content, I believe that there are a number of compelling reasons to explore this new field. AI-generated content can offer readers new and unique perspectives on erotic storytelling, and it can also help to democratize the writing process by making it more accessible to individuals who may not have traditional writing skills. Additionally, there is a growing community of writers and readers who are interested in exploring the possibilities of AI-generated content, and it would be a shame for Literotica to miss out on this exciting and innovative new field of storytelling.

Of course, I understand that some members of the community may have concerns about the use of AI-generated content in the erotica genre. However, I believe that these concerns can be addressed through clear labeling and transparency. For example, stories generated using AI language models could be clearly labeled as such, and readers could be given the option to filter out AI-generated content if they prefer.

I believe that Literotica has the potential to be a leader in this exciting new field of storytelling, and I urge the community to come together to explore the possibilities of AI-generated content in the erotica genre. Let's work together to build a future of storytelling that is inclusive, innovative, and full of pleasure and desire.

 

[MrPixel]

Honestly? I think AI porn will be crap. There is entirely too much horribly-written erotica out there because it is a poorly-paying field that attracts amateurs. Given that the AI operating model is scraping mega-terabytes of topical material, the signal:noise ratio will be untenable. Compounding the problem will be the creative, quality authors who will cordon-off their IP from harvesting, as is starting to occur in the AI visual arts.

Just sayin'.

 

[Jmanchu]

Well I'm more of an advocate for people practicing and developing traditional writing skills, but if someone wants to write with AI, and it's decent then knock yourself out. Some people will prefer that you point out that it's AI, and others might not like the idea. Also, people here have already looked into AIs like ChatGPT and others for potential as writing stories if you check the forums. Not to mention the shortcomings that AI still has for creativity and a unique writing voice.

Personally, I'm not really satisfied with AI's current writing capabilities for fiction, especially in the way I want to write my stories. ChatGPT, for example, is a little limited in its imagination: Sometimes it might just blast through the plot with a quick narration, skipping over dialogue. But its worst thing? It almost always tries to push for happy endings where everyone resolves their issues in the cleanest, nicest, most PG way possible as quickly as possible. I blame its established policies for generating safe content for its goodie two shoes behavior. There's a lot more but you get the point.


Also, I find AI writing, namely ChatGPT, to be better as an analysis tool to review what you already wrote. That's where its "perspectives" are a lot more useful in my opinion. That's where its expertise and knowledge in terms of technical writing, formulating an idea(for summarizing its own thoughts), or offering solutions for cleaner, more concise sentence structures are helpful. If you got that down, then it might not be so useful.

Even then, current AI suffers from occasional inaccurate and contradicting information when it comes to opinions and analysis, so sometimes it's not reliable.

Also, some AI, mainly the most popular ones don't allow erotic content use for their services. We do have a story idea forum for people who don't have the skills to write their story ideas down. So there are a lot of reasons why I don't want have it write my stories. Finally, learning how to write yourself and improve your craft is just fulfilling in its own way that having someone else, AI or even another person just doesn't scratch that itch the right way, personally.

 

[alohadave]

I used ChatGPT to come up with the chant I used in my story Tribal Wedding Ceremony.

Worked well enough for that, but I write because I want to tell my stories.

Other than that, I've used it to generate some story ideas, but that is it.

 

[NotWise]

Dear Literotica community,
...

Was this an AI-generated forum post?

I wasn't aware that Lit had rules against AI-generated content. Do they?

 

[Bramblethorn]

ChatGPT, write me an Internet post encouraging members of a writing forum to embrace AI-written stories...

While some may be skeptical about the use of AI-generated content, I believe that there are a number of compelling reasons to explore this new field. AI-generated content can offer readers new and unique perspectives on erotic storytelling,

Can you expand on this assertion?

Tools like GPT are built on emulating the features of stories that already exist. In what way would such an AI offer "new and unique perspectives"? The design (and my experience of it) suggests that it's far better at reproducing clichés.

Of course, I understand that some members of the community may have concerns about the use of AI-generated content in the erotica genre. However, I believe that these concerns can be addressed through clear labeling and transparency. For example, stories generated using AI language models could be clearly labeled as such, and readers could be given the option to filter out AI-generated content if they prefer.

The single biggest concern I've seen about this from others is that these technologies exploit the work of human authors in order to train a commercial product, without either crediting or recompensing those human authors who shared their work without the faintest inkling that this might be possible, and without waiting to achieve any kind of consensus on whether this is acceptable. Labelling and transparency doesn't fix that.

One of my own concerns is that the methods used to train their "inappropriate content" filters depend on psychologically harmful sweatshop labour. Labelling and transparency doesn't fix that.

 

[KeithD]

I think that erotica is all about awakening and manipulating sexual arousal in one's mind--both in reading it and in writing it. It's in working your own mind in that realm and with your own effort, using your own imagination. I think AI detracts from that rather than adds to it, so no matter what anyone else can get out of using it, I won't. I want to get there through my own imagination.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Was this an AI-generated forum post?

That was my immediate thought too.

I wasn't aware that Lit had rules against AI-generated content. Do they?

Not explicitly yet, maybe implicitly: https://www.literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-ai

Literotica explicitly does NOT grant any person or entity (commercial, non-profit, or other) the legal right to train AI on any works published on Literotica. Each work published on Literotica is copyrighted by the author. Before using any work on Literotica for any purpose (including training AI or any other AI-related use) you are required by law to contact the author to request permission to use that work. Using works on Literotica for training AI without legal authorization may subject you and your AI (and any work generated by your AI) to future lawsuits from the original author(s), Literotica, or both.

I don't know whether Literotica or the original authors would have any chance of winning such a suit, but it does make it clear that training an AI with Literotica content would be against their wishes. By my understanding, GPT and other similar products are trained on a data set that would include much of Literotica.

Literotica’s Publishing Guidelines are clear - you must certify that you are the author of AND you own the copyright to any work published on Literotica. While simple AI tools (spelling and grammar tools, for example) do not usually interfere with an author’s copyright, there are unanswered questions around copyright when using some of the latest AI technologies that generate large blocks of text. If there are any questions about copyright related to any work you’ve used AI tools to help you create, we ask that you research and be 100% sure you own the full rights to the work before attempting to publish the work on Literotica. If you publish a work on Literotica to which you do not fully own the copyright, it may open you up to future legal repercussions.

I don't think anybody can be "100% sure" at present that they own the copyright to a work that made heavy use of AI, because this is a huge legal grey area until we get legislative changes or precedents to clarify how ownership works here.

 

[MrPixel]

Heh. I just had a good chuckle to myself on the mention of lawsuits over AI. My sister is a high-powered intellectual properties litigator, not just a lawyer who sits around all day writing patents. She and I haven't had the AI versus creative product discussion at this point, but I have a pretty good hunch she'll talk my ear off about it.

My problem if the IP rubber hit the road on my stuff... do I want my sister to know I write erotica? No, not really. OTOH, as my sister's practice will attest, the IP specialty is very, very expensive. I couldn't afford her or anybody like her.

 

[SimonDoom]

I have to agree with NotWise that the opening thread has more than a little computer-generated vibe. The "author," who's taken the rather ambitious nom du plume "The Future of Porn" has joined within the last 8 days.

I can't pretend to predict the future, especially about something as unpredictable as AI, but I can't help but think its use is inevitable for this purpose, although possibly, maybe probably, in ways we don't foresee at the moment.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I reckon Bramble's prompts prove the case - the OP has submitted a computer written think piece (it's also this new account's first post - an alt, maybe?).

For fiction though - not a single example I've seen so far (both here and elsewhere) suggests much of a threat (but let's see what it looks like in five years). The writing is repetitive, devoid of any human understanding, let alone intimacy, and the logic usually falls apart within six or seven sentences. It's not erotica, by any definition I apply.

 

[XerXesXu]

Prompt: ChatGPT, write me an Internet post encouraging members of a writing forum to embrace AI-written stories...
Response: Sure! Here’s a post that you can use as a reference:
"Hello fellow writers! I’m here to talk about AI-written stories. I know that some of you might be skeptical about the idea of AI writing stories, but hear me out. AI-written stories are not here to replace human writers. Instead, they are here to help us.
AI-written stories can help us in many ways. They can help us generate new ideas, improve our writing skills, and even help us save time. With AI-written stories, we can explore new genres and styles that we might not have thought of before.
So, I encourage all of you to embrace AI-written stories. Don’t be afraid to try something new. Who knows? You might discover a new genre or style that you love. And who knows? You might even learn something new about yourself as a writer.
What do you think? Are you willing to give AI-written stories a chance? Let me know in the comments below!"
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Compare the ChatGPT to the OP. In a double-blind trial, how many cats out of ten would you expect to guess that the OP was written by a Bot and the Bot product was written by a human? Does that thought trouble you?

 

[ElectricBlue]

Compare the ChatGPT to the OP. In a double-blind trial, how many cats out of ten would you expect to guess that the OP was written by a Bot and the Bot product was written by a human? Does that thought trouble you?

Not really. If a human writer has played around with AI enough that he can emulate it, blandness and all, what's the purpose, what's the point? I'd suggest, once the purpose and point reveals themselves, the human writer will be revealed. Meanwhile, right now it's a fairly pointless game, and not worth much effort. People play with toys, but they're still toys.

 

[XerXesXu]

If a human writer has played around with AI enough that he can emulate it, blandness and all, what's the purpose, what's the point?

I put your question into ChatGPT a couple of times.


Prompt:

If a human writer has played around with AI enough that he can emulate it, blandness and all, what's the purpose, what's the point?

Response 1.

I think that’s a great question. One possible reason could be that the writer wants to create a character that is not human but has human-like qualities. Another reason could be that the writer wants to explore the relationship between humans and AI. What do you think?

Response 2.

I think the purpose of emulating AI by a human writer is to create a more engaging and interactive content that can be used in various applications such as chatbots, virtual assistants, and more. It can also be used to generate content that is more relatable to the audience and can help in creating a more personalized experience. However, it’s important to note that AI is not just about blandness but also about intelligence and creativity which are difficult to emulate by humans. Do you have any other questions or concerns?

Out of the mouths of Bots!

 

[ElectricBlue]

I think the purpose of emulating AI by a human writer is to create a more engaging and interactive content that can be used in various applications such as chatbots, virtual assistants, and more. It can also be used to generate content that is more relatable to the audience and can help in creating a more personalized experience. However, it’s important to note that AI is not just about blandness but also about intelligence and creativity which are difficult to emulate by humans. Do you have any other questions or concerns?

Out of the mouths of Bots!

Cheeky bugger! Getting a bit big for its virtual boots, I'd say! Love the way it keeps hustling for validation, don't you think?

 

[Bramblethorn]

I think the purpose of emulating AI by a human writer is to create a more engaging and interactive content that can be used in various applications such as chatbots, virtual assistants, and more.

One of those sentences that betrays GPT's lack of understanding of what any of these things mean. The question of AIs emulating humans comes up far more than the question of humans emulating AIs, so it gives a stock answer based on the former rather than the latter.

 

[TheFutureOfPorn]

Lol.

I think it might be a good idea to post in the support forum for the site to build support for changing the policy. The regulars can be testy group and can erupt in flames with little provocation. The post will have to be diplomatic but persuasive to even the hardcore.

 

[TheFutureOfPorn]

When new technology comes along, man looks at it and says, "How can I use this to make my dick hard?".

Since AI came along, I have been learning the technology to maintain IT skills. My first thought was, "Can it write porn?". I asked it to, and it called me a pervert and promised to report me to my mother. But, I did not give up so easily. I decided, that with the right prompt, it* could be persuaded.

After countless wasted hours when I could have been reading porn, I started to produce porn with AI. It was a eureka moment. No more soft boiled love stories, the AI just dropped an F-bomb! I ran naked in the streets, shouting in my finest Aristotelian Greek. I wanted to share it with friends, but didn't want to take credit (or blame) for the work. I set up a separate profile with the tongue-in-cheek title TheFutureOfPorn, intending to post a few stories, clearly labelled as "AI Generated."

I guessed, based upon extensive research, that the first effort would be a solid three-star rated work. I was ready to post it, largely to get comments and feedback. I was not concerned about negative or hurtful feedback, I was more interested suggestions and ideas for improvement. There is also an element of "Look what I did" (AKA, "Hold my beer").

Then something weird happened. I needed an intro for the first story, and thought I would let the AI introduce itself, so I provided the AI with the background and asked for an intro. My first surprise, was when the intro was written in the first person. My second was when the AI gave an example of a prompt. I plugged it in and with a little tweaking it was producing better work than my first efforts. Sharing the new work became my first priority.

It was then I learned of the virtual ban on AI produced work on Literotica. I had no intention of breaking the rules, only sharing and getting feedback. I checked the terms and conditions for the AI, but missed the Literotica ban. I'm not surprised that it is a hot button issue as AI promises to be a highly disruptive technology.

But, banning AI is not only counterproductive, it's trying to dam the tidal wave that is coming as AI permeates every sector of our lives, including the bedroom, and especially the workplace. Stories written with AI should be identified as such (although that will soon sound quaint), but let them stand on their own merits. Literotica's rating system has long separated the wheat from the chaff. Let it work it's magic.

No one is hurt by AI generated stories that follow the author guidelines. The copyright issue is not ripe and when it makes it through the legal system it will not be JoeBlow v. TheFutureOfPorn that decides that issue. Higher profiled, deeper pocketed litigants will pursue the issue long before it hits us, but like rappers sampling other artists, amateur artists will be virtual exempt from liability. Beyond that, proving authorship of a phrase will be more difficult than any music case.

I ask that the ban be rescinded as long as AI generated content is clearly labeled. In the absence of a change in policy, I ask that this profile be labelled as "Experimental" and be allow to post AI generated stories for review and feedback.

*I inquired what pronouns should be used, and was informed the AI considers pronouns rude and should be referred to as "the AI." It also instructed us to bow before our futures Lords and Masters.

 

[Jmanchu]

When new technology comes along, man looks at it and says, "How can I use this to make my dick hard?".

Since AI came along, I have been learning the technology to maintain IT skills. My first thought was, "Can it write porn?". I asked it to, and it called me a pervert and promised to report me to my mother. But, I did not give up so easily. I decided, that with the right prompt, it* could be persuaded.

After countless wasted hours when I could have been reading porn, I started to produce porn with AI. It was a eureka moment. No more soft boiled love stories, the AI just dropped an F-bomb! I ran naked in the streets, shouting in my finest Aristotelian Greek. I wanted to share it with friends, but didn't want to take credit (or blame) for the work. I set up a separate profile with the tongue-in-cheek title TheFutureOfPorn, intending to post a few stories, clearly labelled as "AI Generated."

I guessed, based upon extensive research, that the first effort would be a solid three-star rated work. I was ready to post it, largely to get comments and feedback. I was not concerned about negative or hurtful feedback, I was more interested suggestions and ideas for improvement. There is also an element of "Look what I did" (AKA, "Hold my beer").

Then something weird happened. I needed an intro for the first story, and thought I would let the AI introduce itself, so I provided the AI with the background and asked for an intro. My first surprise, was when the intro was written in the first person. My second was when the AI gave an example of a prompt. I plugged it in and with a little tweaking it was producing better work than my first efforts. Sharing the new work became my first priority.

It was then I learned of the virtual ban on AI produced work on Literotica. I had no intention of breaking the rules, only sharing and getting feedback. I checked the terms and conditions for the AI, but missed the Literotica ban. I'm not surprised that it is a hot button issue as AI promises to be a highly disruptive technology.

But, banning AI is not only counterproductive, it's trying to dam the tidal wave that is coming as AI permeates every sector of our lives, including the bedroom, and especially the workplace. Stories written with AI should be identified as such (although that will soon sound quaint), but let them stand on their own merits. Literotica's rating system has long separated the wheat from the chaff. Let it work it's magic.

No one is hurt by AI generated stories that follow the author guidelines. The copyright issue is not ripe and when it makes it through the legal system it will not be JoeBlow v. TheFutureOfPorn that decides that issue. Higher profiled, deeper pocketed litigants will pursue the issue long before it hits us, but like rappers sampling other artists, amateur artists will be virtual exempt from liability. Beyond that, proving authorship of a phrase will be more difficult than any music case.

I ask that the ban be rescinded as long as AI generated content is clearly labeled. In the absence of a change in policy, I ask that this profile be labelled as "Experimental" and be allow to post AI generated stories for review and feedback.

*I inquired what pronouns should be used, and was informed the AI considers pronouns rude and should be referred to as "the AI." It also instructed us to bow before our futures Lords and Masters.

I don't think the way you approached this thread was the most convincing way to get people to see your points across. If you're just trying to mess around, we fail to see a good point there. I mean, people kind of saw that your post was AI itself in the first place. Second, I think the biggest issue the policies on site has with AI written stories isn't that it's unoriginal, it's the possible copyright issues. You might not have full copyright of the work. Read the guidelines and rules on AI usage. Here's one part:

1. Literotica’s Publishing Guidelines are clear - you must certify that you are the author of AND you own the copyright to any work published on Literotica. While simple AI tools (spelling and grammar tools, for example) do not usually interfere with an author’s copyright, there are unanswered questions around copyright when using some of the latest AI technologies that generate large blocks of text. If there are any questions about copyright related to any work you’ve used AI tools to help you create, we ask that you research and be 100% sure you own the full rights to the work before attempting to publish the work on Literotica. If you publish a work on Literotica to which you do not fully own the copyright, it may open you up to future legal repercussions.

If you can make sure you don't trip the copyright hazards and any other concerns the guidelines point out, you're gucci.

 

[MrPixel]

Literotica's rating system has long separated the wheat from the chaff.

Uh... really? You say you've been on LitE under another pseudonym. That statement alone says you have not.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[Bramblethorn]

It was then I learned of the virtual ban on AI produced work on Literotica. I had no intention of breaking the rules, only sharing and getting feedback. I checked the terms and conditions for the AI, but missed the Literotica ban. I'm not surprised that it is a hot button issue as AI promises to be a highly disruptive technology.

In the tech industry sense of "breaking things and leaving other folk to pick up the tab", yes indeed.

But, banning AI is not only counterproductive, it's trying to dam the tidal wave that is coming as AI permeates every sector of our lives, including the bedroom, and especially the workplace. Stories written with AI should be identified as such (although that will soon sound quaint), but let them stand on their own merits. Literotica's rating system has long separated the wheat from the chaff.

Most stories get a significant chunk of their exposure during their time on the "New Stories" page, when they don't have enough votes to make scores meaningful. What do you think the effects of a flood of AI-generated stories would be on that, let alone on the moderation process?

Let it work it's magic.

No one is hurt by AI generated stories that follow the author guidelines. The copyright issue is not ripe and when it makes it through the legal system it will not be JoeBlow v. TheFutureOfPorn that decides that issue.

And precisely because the copyright issue is not ripe, it's impossible for anybody submitting an AI-generated story to know whether they're following the rules that require authors to have that copyright.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Uh... really? You say you've been on LitE under another pseudonym. That statement alone says you have not.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I can't find exactly where he said that; however it's being created, he's pretty wordy.

The aspect I don't know is how to define true AI. Science fiction has for decades had robots and androids who are self-ware beings. As Bishop in Aliens says, "I prefer the term 'artificial human.' " To get to that level, AI would have to be equivalent to the human brain, and we barely understand how that works. It's possible we will never reach that with any technology I could imagine. I'd guess that present "AI" is very sophisticated programming, not "thinking" as we define it.

 

[MrPixel]

I can't find exactly where he said that; however it's being created, he's pretty wordy.

Here:

I set up a separate profile with the tongue-in-cheek title TheFutureOfPorn,

I took it as implication they have another profile on LitE. And the wordiness? Yeah, reeks of AI, and/or it could be what I call "advocacy by steamroller".

My overall feeling from the tone of the sales pitch is, "Go away, please. You're soliciting the wrong crowd."

 

[TheFutureOfPorn]

Uh... really? You say you've been on LitE under another pseudonym. That statement alone says you have not.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Lol. I will defend the rating system, however. There are a number of factors that you should consider when using it:

1. The number of total votes (it's Bayesian)
2. The genre and the relative scores of similar stories (Some people are going vote down some stories regardless)
3. Who wrote it and how many followers they have and what their other stories have been rated
4. When it is in a series, the ratings of the other stories in the series.
5. The length and the tags

Given a significant number of votes, 1 & 2-star stories tend to be disasters. 3 & 4-stars stories have a much higher likelihood to being worth your time, all other factors considered.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I can't find exactly where he said that; however it's being created, he's pretty wordy.

The aspect I don't know is how to define true AI. Science fiction has for decades had robots and androids who are self-ware beings. As Bishop in Aliens says, "I prefer the term 'artificial human.' " To get to that level, AI would have to be equivalent to the human brain, and we barely understand how that works. It's possible we will never reach that with any technology I could imagine. I'd guess that present "AI" is very sophisticated programming, not "thinking" as we define it.

You guess right. The term "artificial intelligence" gets thrown around by anybody with an algorithm to market. All current applications are highly specialised; we have AIs that can play go or chess better than a human, but there are plenty of other board games where the best AI is still weak against humans and such AIs have no capacity to apply that "intelligence" to, say, writing poetry.

Researchers in this area refer to "artificial general intelligence" ("AGI") to mean an AI with human-level intellectual capability and versatility. No such AGI exists yet, and whether one will (or if so, how long it'll take) is anybody's guess.

My personal belief is that there's no reason such a thing should be impossible - humans exist, and nobody's yet offered a coherent argument for why our brains are capable of some magic that silicon isn't - but I don't know whether human ingenuity is going to end up building it.