The FBI’s Trump ‘Insurance’

[TalkRadio]

Democrats and the media are accusing anyone who criticizes special counsel Robert Mueller as Trumpian conspirators trying to undermine his probe. But who needs critics when Mr. Mueller’s team is doing so much to undermine its own credibility?

Wednesday’s revelations—they’re coming almost daily—include the Justice Department’s release of 2016 text messages to and from Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller demoted this summer. The texts, which he exchanged with senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, contain expletive-laced tirades against Mr. Trump. Such Trump hatred is no surprise and not by itself disqualifying. More troubling are texts that suggest that some FBI officials may have gone beyond antipathy to anti-Trump plotting.

Public confidence isn’t helped by the continuing Justice and FBI refusal to cooperate with Congress. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who supervises Mr. Mueller, toed the Mueller-FBI line on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee. He repeated FBI Director Christopher Wray’s preposterous excuse that he can’t answer questions because of an Inspector General probe. And he wouldn’t elaborate on the news that Nellie Ohr, the wife of senior Justice official Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS, which hired Mr. Steele to gin up his dossier.

The man who should be most disturbed by all this is Mr. Mueller, who wants his evidence and conclusions to be credible with the public. Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-trump-insurance-1513210929

 

[Rightguide]

In the next couple of months, America is going to expose the most egregious Deep State conspiracy against the American people and the democratic process in the history of the country.

 

[BizzyBody]

no one cares

all everyone cares about is CUNT SHIT

 

[Rightguide]

no one cares

all everyone cares about is CUNT SHIT

I think at least half the country cares. The other half is ignorant enough to think a Third World coup is the way to go, but then again we know who we're talking about.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Democrats and the media are accusing anyone who criticizes special counsel Robert Mueller as Trumpian conspirators trying to undermine his probe. But who needs critics when Mr. Mueller’s team is doing so much to undermine its own credibility?

Wednesday’s revelations—they’re coming almost daily—include the Justice Department’s release of 2016 text messages to and from Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller demoted this summer. The texts, which he exchanged with senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, contain expletive-laced tirades against Mr. Trump. Such Trump hatred is no surprise and not by itself disqualifying. More troubling are texts that suggest that some FBI officials may have gone beyond antipathy to anti-Trump plotting.

Public confidence isn’t helped by the continuing Justice and FBI refusal to cooperate with Congress. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who supervises Mr. Mueller, toed the Mueller-FBI line on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee. He repeated FBI Director Christopher Wray’s preposterous excuse that he can’t answer questions because of an Inspector General probe. And he wouldn’t elaborate on the news that Nellie Ohr, the wife of senior Justice official Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS, which hired Mr. Steele to gin up his dossier.

The man who should be most disturbed by all this is Mr. Mueller, who wants his evidence and conclusions to be credible with the public. Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-trump-insurance-1513210929

Token financial contributions to Hillary Clinton or other Democratic candidates were never substantive evidence of an FBI agent's inability to fairly conduct a criminal investigation. That fact alone, stripped of further contextual evidence, was always sheer nonsense.

But the Strzok/Page emails are a whole other matter. Mueller did the right thing in that regard, but he needs to get to the bottom of this fast -- especially if any other investigators manifest any blatant political bias beyond party affiliation and modest financial support.

 

[Rightguide]

Token financial contributions to Hillary Clinton or other Democratic candidates were never substantive evidence of an FBI agent's inability to fairly conduct a criminal investigation. That fact alone, stripped of further contextual evidence, was always sheer nonsense.

But the Strzok/Page emails are a whole other matter. Mueller did the right thing in that regard, but he needs to get to the bottom of this fast -- especially if any other investigators manifest any blatant political bias beyond party affiliation and modest financial support.

I think the Inspector General and Chairman Devon Nunes are going to explode a huge conspiracy that will rock the nation and it will go far beyond a few personalities in the DOJ.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I think the Inspector General and Chairman Devon Nunes are going to explode a huge conspiracy that will rock the nation and it will go far beyond a few personalities in the DOJ.

I hope not simply because this is the last thing this country needs, but if there is real substance behind your worst fears then, yeah, it's got to come out and people need to be held accountable.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I watched a bunch of FOX News last night, and some off and on over the last few weeks. If that is what you people are watching exclusively, and buying it, then I suppose I can see why you would believe that there is something concerning going on.

The problem is that the assertions are simply not credible. It is one giant supposition built on another obviously overblown bit of sophistry stacked up on a complete fabrication. At the heart of it there may be something - like they got rid of a guy who was partisan. And for the record they should have dumped the guy and they did. But the hyperbole that Hannity and the guy with the bow tie engage in from there is crazy. There are so many qualifying statements along the way to get to the punchline where Meiller is a big boogeyman that there just is not any substance or rationality.

 

[Aglaopheme]

This tweet sums it up nicely:


To recap, Mueller fired an agent for texting about Trump but Trump wouldn't fire his national security adviser for being compromised by Russia.


https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/941116077932625920

 

[BoyNextDoor]

This tweet sums it up nicely:


To recap, Mueller fired an agent for texting about Trump but Trump wouldn't fire his national security adviser for being compromised by Russia.


https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/941116077932625920

Exactly. It is a replay of the guy that shot up the pizza place looking for the porn ring HRC was running (truth really is stranger than fiction). But with ten orders of magnitude more dire consequences for the country.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I'll add it is dangerous and irresponsible of FOX to engage in so much sophistry and hyperbole and imply that it is "news", especially with respect to this particular story.

 

[Que]

I'll add it is dangerous and irresponsible of FOX to engage in so much sophistry and hyperbole and imply that it is "news", especially with respect to this particular story.

Naturally. Only responsible "news" purveyers like The NYY,CNN NBC ABC, Comedy Central, and CBS should be able to engage in sophistry and hyperbole to advance important, noble, and righteous causes.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I'll add it is dangerous and irresponsible of FOX to engage in so much sophistry and hyperbole and imply that it is "news", especially with respect to this particular story.

And I'll add that it is dangerous and irresponsible for CNN and every other major news network to do EXACTLY the same thing with regard to the implied sweeping generalization that "collusion" with Russians equates to criminal conduct every time someone had a conversation with one.

For my money, the only person who has provided any meaningful perspective on this story is Alan Dershowitz, and he does the same thing no matter which network panel he appears on -- he jerks their chain and pulls the rug of hysteria out from under them -- whether its the nonsense of a President committing obstruction of justice by firing an FBI director or empaneling another special prosecutor to investigate the current special prosecutor.

Liberals are fed the same sophistry and hyperbole from liberal media that Fox News quite frequently feeds conservatives. And it benefits no one.

But for the record, Dershowitz, has expressed extreme misgivings about the bias displayed by Strzok to the point of suggesting even criminal liability in the exchange with Page. No, that does NOT discredit the entire investigation or Mueller's personal integrity. But it's far more than a mere minor personnel glitch -- IF (you, know, the same "IF" you guys keep tossing around to see how close it lands to the President) it involves more than one or two investigators on Mueller's staff.

If it doesn't -- and, for now I'm assuming it doesn't-- then fine. But it needs to be looked at. Hard.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And I'll add that it is dangerous and irresponsible for CNN and every other major news network to do EXACTLY the same thing with regard to the implied sweeping generalization that "collusion" with Russians equates to criminal conduct every time someone had a conversation with one.

For my money, the only person who has provided any meaningful perspective on this story is Alan Dershowitz, and he does the same thing no matter which network panel he appears on -- he jerks their chain and pulls the rug of hysteria out from under them -- whether its the nonsense of a President committing obstruction of justice by firing an FBI director or empaneling another special prosecutor to investigate the current special prosecutor.

Liberals are fed the same sophistry and hyperbole from liberal media that Fox News quite frequently feeds conservatives. And it benefits no one.

But for the record, Dershowitz, has expressed extreme misgivings about the bias displayed by Strzok to the point of suggesting even criminal liability in the exchange with Page. No, that does NOT discredit the entire investigation or Mueller's personal integrity. But it's far more than a mere minor personnel glitch -- IF (you, know, the same "IF" you guys keep tossing around to see how close it lands to the President) it involves more than one or two investigators on Mueller's staff.

If it doesn't -- and, for now I'm assuming it doesn't-- then fine. But it needs to be looked at. Hard.

Absolute bullshit!! Everyone knows (D) and (D) cheerleader media outlets don't exist.........everything they do is totally un-biased and with the best of society in the front of their altruistic hearts. 100% of the time.


LOL....there is absolutely no use in trying to convince BND that (D)'s are anything other than pure as the driven snow, altruistic saints here to cure the world of it's woes and bring about the utopia.

 

[Hypoxia]

If some of Tromp's cabinet secretaries can refer to him as a fucking moron, why can't FBI agents note that he's a political idiot?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

If some of Tromp's cabinet secretaries can refer to him as a fucking moron, why can't FBI agents note that he's a political idiot?

Because criminal investigations -- which is what "SPECIAL PROSECUTORS" are specifically charged with conducting -- are supposed to be characterized by the highest degree of impartiality. It's the same standard by which your ass would be removed from an empaneled jury or jury pool if you expressed the same sentiment before or during a trial. You're not typically allowed to perform your sworn civic duty to weigh the evidence fairly and impartially if you're too stupid not to refrain from disparaging the defendant to your fellow jurors or other officers of the court ahead of time.

 

[BobBalouski]

The entire purpose/conclusion of the smear job dossier, which was then disingenuously employed as the deep state's probable cause to gain FISC investigative power, is that Trump's own actions related to Russia, as described in the dossier, have made him susceptible to blackmail by Russia, that he's been compromised by Russia. But the thing about that is: where's any proof of that at all? Actual, concrete evidence/proof, not just more and more anti-Trump political opinion?

As far as evidence/proof goes, what about both the FBI and DOJ stating they haven't been able to actually verify anything the dossier alleges at all? Certainly/absolutely nothing that actually provides any probable cause for FISC warrants allowing the Obama administration to "legally" spy and dig up every spec of dirt on Democratic Party political opposition?

(Incredibly devious partisan political strategy, for sure: backdoor commission a dossier to fabricate allegations, commission media and government agency "buys" of those allegations, which then perfectly paves the "legal" way into the very front door of federal government FISC probable cause to continue "legally" digging up more political dirt against your partisan opposition).

And still partisan hacks have to pimp others besides Trump were "compromised", too, as if their unarguable, partisan political stance carries even an iota of logical weight against the evidence that still provides no proof of anyone being compromised by Russia at all.

Think about this: the very same political partisan hacks, both at the very top levels of American government today and all the way down to the progressives in this thread, are the very same ones who enabled the Clintons to normalize rape/sexual assault/accuser-attacking in the American cultural psyche, knowing all along what the Clintons did, abetting their silencing and discrediting of the women raped and assaulted, and proving themselves how much they truly approved of that all by voting for both Clintons numerous times.

Whatever fate's reasons, it seems now is the time all the rape/sexual assault/accuser-attacking harm the Clintons have inflicted upon American culture is finally being called to account for, with the same partisan hacks still standing up for their criminal idols. Hopefully, fate will also see to it that the Clintons themselves are finally held fully accountable for using their UNRIVALED/UNCHECKED POLITICAL POWER to harm so many others. And, I discern, fate might very well have the same degree of full accounting due in store for America's anti-Constitution/criminal deep state, which has been begging for righteous comeuppance ever since November 22, 1963.

I've personally chosen two players in this ultimate of unfolding, American-Machiavellian political dramas to gauge how it all will go; meaning, if these two guys don't let it go, if they pursue it to the end to the best of their obvious abilities pertaining to this issue, at this time in history, then the deep state is finally going down, 70 years since Harry & Ike first warned us all about it.

Research and learn what they've both already accomplished, and then watch what Jim Jordan and Ron DeSantis do now.

 

[Hypoxia]

Because criminal investigations -- which is what "SPECIAL PROSECUTORS" are specifically charged with conducting -- are supposed to be characterized by the highest degree of impartiality.

IIRC when the agents exchanged nasty comments about Tromp, they were not investigating him or his campaign. Did they express similar sentiments when involved in investigations?

A similar situation: Officer X declares that some civilian is a dirtbag. The dirtbag is later a subject of investigation to which Officer X is assigned. During the process, Officer X conducts herself in a totally professional manner. Should she be kicked off, punished, censured?

 

[BizzyBody]

Sorta funny how the NIGGERS that scream about TRUMP tweets


Sorta funny how the NIGGERS that scream about TRUMP Diet Cokes

Sorta funny how the NIGGERS that scream about TRUMP and Birther

Are saying, FBI BIAS?

Meh!


Fucking NIGGERS

 

[BizzyBody]

the "FBI" interviewed a person whose conduct was NOT illegal,

the content of his discussions were KNOWN by the "FBI"

the WIRE TAP being illegal

and they get him for LYING



CuntClinton was interviewed, without an oath, without a recording, without taking notes...all against DPJ rules

An exoneration letter being ALTERED by someone who wanted to ALTER the election, writen BEFORE the so called CuntClinton interview

The CuntClinton hanger'ons were ALL given immunity PRIOR to their interviews



and the NIGGERS^^^^^^^^^ say

Meh!

 

[BizzyBody]

the "FBI" interviewed a person whose conduct was NOT illegal,

the content of his discussions were KNOWN by the "FBI"

the WIRE TAP being illegal

and they get him for LYING



CuntClinton was interviewed, without an oath, without a recording, without taking notes...all against DPJ rules

An exoneration letter being ALTERED by someone who wanted to ALTER the election, writen BEFORE the so called CuntClinton interview

The CuntClinton hanger'ons were ALL given immunity PRIOR to their interviews



and the NIGGERS^^^^^^^^^ say

Meh!

not to mention the SMASHED hard drives so the emails cant be retrieved....AFTER THE SUBPENA

and

Meh

 

[BizzyBody]

Meanwhile CuntCLinton lawyers clearly did something illegal and had ethics violations filed against them

AND THE GOVERNMENT IS CHANGING THE LAWS RETROACTIVELY TO PROTECT THE LAWYERS

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/17/r...tly-flouts-rules-to-protect-clintons-lawyers/


and the NIGGERS say

MEH!

 

[BizzyBody]

There is no other way to describe this but


THIS IS A COUP

 

[BizzyBody]

Remember when Trump Jr met with a Russian lawyer

You NIGGERS scream TREASON

High ranking FBI Officials/Agents CONSPIRING against the Opposition Party’s @POTUS candidate on FEDERAL GROUNDS...all while ‘investigating’ and CLEARING THEIR Party candidate...

SEEMS A LOT LIKE TREASON TO ME! Meh!

 

[BizzyBody]

CuntClinton and her top aide Huma Abedin were allowed to "remove electronic & physical records under a claim they were 'personal' materials & 'unclassified, non-record materials”


BUT

A retired General was INTERVIEWED about LEGAL MEETINGS......the content of said meets were OBTAINED ILLEGALLY and CONTENT KNOWN by the KGB, err fbi, and HE IS GUILTY??????????????????


NIGGERS go https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/c/c1/Meh.png/revision/latest?cb=20130519224155