The Face of Big Pharma

[Sean Renaud]

hai je'taime.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who is moving right along? IT looks to me like in six months that white male will be utterly forgiven and this woman will be the poster child forever of this issue.

MSN and CNN aren't even running the story anymore. They gave it a 2 second blip and moved on. It's not on their front pages....French mayors Burkini ban despite judges ruling is getting more play than this with the (D) media. Which is understandable for them. They don't want to say any more about it than they ABSOLUTELY have to, because they are Clintons PR department first, and a news source second.

Among the FOX crowd maybe....FOX is grinding it for everything it's worth trying to make it stick to a crowd that generally celebrates corporate greed and already hates Clinton.

And if they ever need to demonize people for shit like this again? I find the idea that the (D) media will use the poor poor disadvantaged victim of the evil white male patriarchy as the poster child of evil corporate greed over the evil white male fucking absurd. FOX might....but MSN/CNN have already forgotten about this woman and there is no demographic more despised among Democrats than white males, especially rich ones.

 

[underguy1]

Primarily I was reacting to your 'defense' of North Korea. I found no reason to agree with you in any respect. You dumped a lot of propaganda but your premise was flawed by the argument that the PRK was a good thing for the North Koreans.

These are just bald faced lies. I've propagated nothing for the NK regime and have made no such claim.

Have some fucking dignity.

You fall back to calling me racist, which has no bearing on the issues.

You made a racist remark. Deal with the fallout.

First because I have no idea, or concern, what race you are. Second because I have not even discussed race, an irrelevant point IMHO, at all.

The remark is up there in black and white.

But mostly I was reacting to you acting like a prick any time anyone disagrees with you.

I argue my case. Do you want an echo chamber?

However I beg you pardon for jumping on your shit. In my defense I just got out of the Hospital and feel like crap. The Clit-Trump psycho-drama is wearing my patience pretty thin. Very few people in these debates are addressing the issues but over react to every issue with zealotry and hyperbole rather than factual logical evidence to support their claims.

Grow the fuck up. I'd like to address the issues with some adults.

Do you know any that post here?

 

[JackLuis]

The EpiPen scandal runs deeper than most of us realize

t has been two years since Gilead Sciences Inc. rolled out its $1,000-a-pill hepatitis C drug Sovaldi, priced at $84,000 for a course of treatment and met with disbelief from patients, insurers and health care professionals. After an 18-month investigation the Senate Finance Committee concluded prices did not reflect Gilead’s development costs and that the drug maker cared about “revenue” not “affordability and accessibility.” The committee also found that Sovaldi and a related pill, Harvoni, cost taxpayers $5 billion in 2014.

It’s been one year since Valeant Pharmaceuticals International Inc. hiked the price of a once-daily form of Wellbutrin, a 30-year-old antidepressant, to $1,400 a month despite the existence of a $30 generic and refused to lower prices on the millions hospitals pay for its life-saving heart medicines.

It's time to pass a law that the Government can negotiate Drug Prices and that companies that off shore their HQ's to avoid taxes must pay an extra 50% of the profits in repatriation fees for any funds shipped off shore. I'd also include a section making the Board of Directors personally and severally responsible for any corporate crimes that the Corporation is found guilty of.

 

[JackLuis]

These are just bald faced lies. I've propagated nothing for the NK regime and have made no such claim.

Grow the fuck up. I'd like to address the issues with some adults.

Do you know any that post here?

I don't argue with idiots. If you can prove, or disprove any of my allegations please feel free to do so. Otherwise don't waste you fingers in typing bullshit.

 

[JackLuis]

Mylan to launch first generic to EpiPen allergy injector at half off list price

Mylan NV said on Monday it would launch the first generic to its allergy auto-injector EpiPen at a discount of more than 50 percent to the branded product’s list price.

This company reduced the out-of-pocket costs of EpiPen for some patients last week amid a wave of criticism from lawmakers and the public over the rapid escalation in the product’s price in the past few years.

Mylan said it expects to launch the generic product “in several weeks” at a list price of $300 per generic EpiPen, compared with the branded product’s cost of about $600.

Why not just drop the price of the "Branded" pen? Is it because of the contractual kick back obligations they have made with the Pharm Bro's in the industry? Why not drop the price to $50?

 

[underguy1]

I don't argue with idiots. If you can prove, or disprove any of my allegations please feel free to do so. Otherwise don't waste you fingers in typing bullshit.

You're the one making false accusations, dipshit.

 

[dan_c00000]

I'll sign petitions. In the meantime, I'll be working until I drop dead because that's just the way it is. I don't have the time or energy to bitch every fucking day to a legislator who is already getting paid on my dime to do jack shit but pass more abortion laws.

For what it's worth in addition to writing your Congressional representative you can also comment directly on proposed bills, rules, etc. through the Federal Register.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's time to pass a law that the Government can negotiate Drug Prices and that companies that off shore their HQ's to avoid taxes must pay an extra 50% of the profits in repatriation fees for any funds shipped off shore. I'd also include a section making the Board of Directors personally and severally responsible for any corporate crimes that the Corporation is found guilty of.

LOL that's just as likely as the GOP turning on General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin and Halliburton in favor of not warmongering everything.

DNC ain't ever letting that happen...big pharma is their cash cow and they will protect it and enrich it at all costs.

Why not just drop the price of the "Branded" pen? Is it because of the contractual kick back obligations they have made with the Pharm Bro's in the industry? Why not drop the price to $50?

It's not the pharma bro's.....it's the democrats.

 

[JackLuis]

House Committee requests EpiPen documents from Mylan

Noooo.... WTF Congress taking some action? I guess the LSM finally got a subject that they felt shouldn't be spun and politicized. Will the media keep the fire burning under the Congress Critters asses? Will the Congress actually decide to take action and pass a meaningful bill to negotiate Drug Prices?

Or, will they stall and swerve, and hope this dies down before they have to fuck over their sponsors in Big Pharma?

 

[JackLuis]

How Mylan spent millions creating an astroturf movement for ‘EpiPens Everywhere’ and then jacked the price

This could be titled , "My Daddy's a Senator so pay me another $16 Million bucks!"

Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-WV) is trying to dodge the firestorm of controversy ignited by his daughter, Mylan CEO Heather Bresch, after she jacked the price of life-saving EpiPens by more than 500 percent since 2009.

Days after the scandal outraged the public, Manchin finally broke his silence. He issued a brief statement, claiming to “share … concerns about the skyrocketing prices of prescription drugs.” But he avoided mentioning Bresch when he said, “I heard Mylan’s initial response, and I am sure Mylan will have a more comprehensive and formal response.”

It was a statement that said nothing. Manchin could have spoke of using his influence to land Bresch a job at Mylan more than 20 years ago. He might have pointed out Mylan was the top contributor when he served as governor of West Virginia, and is the number two contributor to his Senate campaigns, having poured $130,000 into his coffers starting the year the EpiPen price hikes began.

The Mylan EpiPen scandal is not a story of inept regulation and a broken healthcare system. It’s a story about a political and healthcare system that’s fixed exactly how corporations intend.

So when will Congress DO Something?

 

[JackLuis]

Five Deadly Sins of Big Pharma

For Mylan, it was a perfect plan -- diabolical, unstoppable. The company made changes in its anti-allergy EpiPen dispenser in 2009, enough to give it patent protection. Then, in 2012, it began to give away free pens to schools, gradually making school nurses at least partly dependent on them. Meanwhile the company was successfully lobbying for the "Emergency Epinephrine Act," commonly referred to as the "EpiPen Law," which encouraged the presence of epinephrine dispensers in schools. Most recently, after raising the price from $100 to $600, Mylan announced a half-price coupon, making itself appear generous even though the price had effectively jumped from $100 to $300.

But Mylan is a piker in the Pharma pillaging plans.

 

[underguy1]

That's capitalism for ya.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So when will Congress DO Something?

They did, they secured a forced market so this scum sucker can extort as much money from his captive consumers as he wants.

Isn't government awesome!!

That's capitalism for ya.

Corporatism, not capitalism. This wouldn't be possible without the government doing their part to force it.

Meanwhile the company was successfully lobbying for the "Emergency Epinephrine Act," commonly referred to as the "EpiPen Law,"

http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/five-deadly-sins-of-big-pharma

If we had capitalism I could go make my own epi pen, sell it for 100 bucks and put that guy out of bidniz.

 

[Sean Renaud]

They did, they secured a forced market so this scum sucker can extort as much money from his captive consumers as he wants.

Isn't government awesome!!




Corporatism, not capitalism. This wouldn't be possible without the government doing their part to force it.

Meanwhile the company was successfully lobbying for the "Emergency Epinephrine Act," commonly referred to as the "EpiPen Law,"


http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/five-deadly-sins-of-big-pharma

They did that in 1776. I mean sure it's not capitalism but that's because nobody is stupid enough to genuinely try that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They did that in 1776.

Name the US government forced/captive markets in 1776......

I mean sure it's not capitalism but that's because nobody is stupid enough to genuinely try that.

What's so stupid about free commerce?

We did it for a long time and did very well as a nation for the most part. Even outlasted and did SIGNIFICANTLY better than ANY socialist state or even iron fisted communism with it.

We didn't have government controlled/forced markets until fairly recently when we decided we didn't like mass success and only wanted the elites to better themselves (became neolibz/conz).

 

[Sean Renaud]

Name the US government forced/captive markets in 1776......



What's so stupid about free commerce?

We did it for a long time and did very well as a nation for the most part. Even outlasted and did SIGNIFICANTLY better than ANY socialist state or even iron fisted communism with it.

We didn't have government controlled/forced markets until fairly recently when we decided we didn't like mass success and only wanted the elites to better themselves (became neolibz/conz).

This isn't about a captive market, do you even USE an epipen?

What's so stupid about free markets is they don't work, the nation has NEVER tried it . Ever. Not for a single second. The world was more advanced than that by the time America was born.

 

[BotanyBoy]

This isn't about a captive market, do you even USE an epipen?

I think this is ALL about a captive market.

If the government didn't force a market (make people buy from a scum bag) then they couldn't charge 600 fuckin' bucks.

What's so stupid about free markets is they don't work, the nation has NEVER tried it .

Not purely free from all regulation and taxation.

But they were free as far as participation goes.

Until relatively recently when the neo-lib/con scheem of buy a Senator and they will force people to buy your insanely overpriced bullshit really took hold.

 

[underguy1]

If we had capitalism I could go make my own epi pen, sell it for 100 bucks and put that guy out of bidniz.

Completely back arsewards.

But you will never understand.

Loonertarians cannot learn.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Completely back arsewards.

But you will never understand.

Loonertarians cannot learn.

Yet you can never explain....fancy that.

I'm not a loonertarian.

 

[underguy1]

Yet you can never explain....fancy that.

I'm not a loonertarian.

You appear to be a compulsive liar.

So GFY, libertard.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You appear to be a compulsive liar.

So GFY, libertard.

How did I lie? Can you even back that claim up ?

You certainly can't back up the claim that what I said is backwards.

 

[underguy1]

How did I lie? Can you even back that claim up ?

You certainly can't back up the claim that what I said is backwards.

You appear to be a compulsive liar.

So GFY, libertard.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You appear to be a compulsive liar.

So GFY, libertard.

So you cant' back up your claims.....

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/henktermaat/suprise.jpg

 

[underguy1]

You appear to be a compulsive liar.

So GFY, libertard.
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