The depths the cuckold crowd will sink to.

[Bramblethorn]

Guess what, people make erroneous copyright claims, try putting anything on youtube for any length of time. It gets ignored, most people don't see it as a sinister plot against them.

Something of a tangent to this discussion, but a lot of the bogus copyright claims on YouTube are in fact a sinister plot. Here's an article about it: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...ope-no-one-complains-collect-free-money.shtml

 

[Serafina1210]

Gotta admit

I'm not a lover of BTB stories or the LW section, but that's a very clever tale, DeYaKen, well written and skillfully calculated to tease Lit's line between acceptable and unacceptable content--a thing that's worth doing for its own sake.

 

[DeYaKen]

No I'm just a simple man.

I'm not a lover of BTB stories or the LW section, but that's a very clever tale, DeYaKen, well written and skillfully calculated to tease Lit's line between acceptable and unacceptable content--a thing that's worth doing for its own sake.

If you are referring to Smoking Kills I can't claim any of that. In my book it is clear cut there is no titillation to be had from the death so it isn't a snuff story. It was an exercise in Irony and the use of euphemisms. When I wrote it, it was a play on the wording of the government health warning on every packet of cigarettes. Smoking Kills it says so I wrote a story in which it did but in a different way to what is meant in the warning. The final line also plays with that. If smoking kills then if you don't smoke you don't get killed.

You might say that I was playing with the reader and playing with the words, but I never saw it as testing the rules.

Lit's rules could be a lot worse. I had a story rejected by one erotic story site because it focused on a man's death (Recycling Day). Their rule was that even a reference to death or violence was banned. The exception being BDSM. So beating breasts with a cane until they bled was fine, a simple smack in the mouth was not. I guess sex at a funeral was ruled out because you can't have a funeral without death.

 

[Serafina1210]

In my book it is clear cut there is no titillation to be had from the death so it isn't a snuff story.

No, I didn't see any effort to titillate either. Still, clever.

And I'm glad I gave up smoking.

 

[DeYaKen]

No, I didn't see any effort to titillate either. Still, clever.

And I'm glad I gave up smoking.

So having read the story could you recognise it from this description.

"Snuff Story.

From start to finish it consists of nothing more than a man plotting to murder his wife and get away with it. It ends with him sitting at home getting off on what he has done"

That was the report filed by someone who, on this thread, claimed to have read the story. Perhaps that tells you why I choose not to believe most of what she says.

 

[lovecraft68]

This was from yesterday on the non con question thread.

Another "real man" of lit. My father would beat my ass if I ever even typed that to a woman and I would beat the crap out of my nephews if they ever did it. which makes me wonder who the hell, if anyone, even raised these idiots.

@ Lovecraft68

This post is more in reference to things you said in your "but lit does not allow rape stories thread" but I have no desire to bump that thread.

I logged on to this pm a few minutes ago.

would you roleplay as a married milf for gangbang for me and my and friends in ghetto?! Alex 27 m ohio nasty perv and I am into detailed plays on yahoo.

No correspondence with this poster, this was his introduction to me. I replied "Not even a Hi? This is how you introduce yourself, can me and my friends gang bang you? And I told him where to go.

This was what I just got back.

oh look its mother teresa talkin! whom the fuck are you kidding you dirty cunt?! why the fuck else are you here?! for bible study?! why the fuck do you need a hi?! are you sitting in production meeting in the office. you are no good whore and you don't deserve any fucking pleasantaries. wake up from that dream Cinderella cunt. Its not 'can i ganbang you'.. its 'get to your business and only thing you are worthy of you cunt!' you know what.. you just established you are a fuckin hypocrite and hypocrites belong to my iggy bin so off you go cry to your daddy rotten cunt!

because I am a woman on this site I am a dirty whore and should be used like one.

"get to your business and only thing you are worthy of you cunt."

Would anyone like to reopen the discussion of the treatment of women on this site? At least outside of the writers forums where the guys are not generally looking for cyber pussy?

No culture of misogyny here, no, not at all.

 

[lovecraft68]

So having read the story could you recognise it from this description.

"Snuff Story.

From start to finish it consists of nothing more than a man plotting to murder his wife and get away with it. It ends with him sitting at home getting off on what he has done"

That was the report filed by someone who, on this thread, claimed to have read the story. Perhaps that tells you why I choose not to believe most of what she says.

From what I know someone could get off after the fact of someone dying. Snuff is generally sexual pleasure during the death, mostly during the actual act.

Unless of course its in non human or erotic horror then they can do whatever the hell they want. Including underage for those who recall that thread I started a couple of years ago.

I am truly amazed I have not been thrown off here yet

 

[Serafina1210]

From what I know someone could get off after the fact of someone dying. Snuff is generally sexual pleasure during the death, mostly during the actual act.

DeYaKen's story isn't either of these things.

Snuff is just evil, though (oddly) I understand the attraction of it better than I understand Incest.

But yeah, death can be erotic. More years ago than I'll admit to you youngsters, I was with a lover when I took a phone call informing me of the suicide of a high school friend. We made love--I almost attacked him--and it was some of the best sex I ever had. I cried for my friend afterwards.

Maybe, when something happens to bring home the reality of death, it makes us more avid for life.

 

[LadyVer]

DeYaKen's story isn't either of these things.

Snuff is just evil, though (oddly) I understand the attraction of it better than I understand Incest.

But yeah, death can be erotic. More years ago than I'll admit to you youngsters, I was with a lover when I took a phone call informing me of the suicide of a high school friend. We made love--I almost attacked him--and it was some of the best sex I ever had. I cried for my friend afterwards.

Maybe, when something happens to bring home the reality of death, it makes us more avid for life.

I would think this is two completely different views. One view is a reader enjoys someone dying, or gets off to it. The other view, which I believe to be more common, is that being confronted with death and loss, and one's own mortality, it generates an intense need for intimacy and sex to celebrate life and loss. I don't know if "celebrate" is the best word choice, but couldn't think of anything else.

 

[Serafina1210]

I would think this is two completely different views. One view is a reader enjoys someone dying, or gets off to it. The other view, which I believe to be more common, is that being confronted with death and loss, and one's own mortality, it generates an intense need for intimacy and sex to celebrate life and loss. I don't know if "celebrate" is the best word choice, but couldn't think of anything else.

Yes, that puts it better than I managed to do.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Not getting into the whole issue of men's and women's roles in evolution....there are too many facepalm moments in this thread about that.

However, anyone who thinks that DeYaKen is a misogynist is clearly viewing this through a very narrow or distorted lens. I suppose that you're doing something right, when like him or me, you get attacked from both sides. I get one-bombed and attacked by trolls for being either too hard or too soft on the women, depending on which cult produced that particular troll....the Church of The Woman Is Always Right vs. the Church of Burn The Witch!

My answer, in the words of Bon Jovi.....HAVE A NICE DAY.

Though I usually avoid LW like the plague, and here's why.