The Construction Thread

[rosco rathbone]

Have you thought about going into welding inspection?

Very funny/

AND use the grinder every time you stop.

I can't do that on the test.

You might look at a North BP1201, provided you're ok'ed to wear a half mask respirator.

Good lookin out, thor.
http://www.websoft-solutions.net/North_Safety_respirator_half_face_respirator_p/bp1201.htm

 

[thør]

I can't do that on the test.

Why not? If you don't grind the starts and stops, you might as well not even weld. Just pour some Elmers in there.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Why not? If you don't grind the starts and stops, you might as well not even weld. Just pour some Elmers in there.

They don't allow it. If I could grind and wirewheel, I wouldn't bother practicing for this shit.

 

[thør]

They don't allow it. If I could grind and wirewheel, I wouldn't bother practicing for this shit.

Where the hell is my copy of D1.1? It's a structural weld, so the governing Code is AWS D1.1, right?

If it was the AP1 1104 Code, you wouldn't even have to start with clean metal....You should see the shit that's allowed in those welds.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Where the hell is my copy of D1.1? It's a structural weld, so the governing Code is AWS D1.1, right?

If it was the AP1 1104 Code, you wouldn't even have to start with clean metal....You should see the shit that's allowed in those welds.

I have to get D1.1 first, before they let me take my city test.

 

[thør]

I have to get D1.1 first, before they let me take my city test.

You have to buy it?

What procedure do you have to follow?

 

[rosco rathbone]

You have to buy it?

What procedure do you have to follow?

I'm actually kind of confused about it now that I'm looking into it. I know it's vertical and overhead, xray for the state (DOT) and bend for the city. You might be right about grinding though. That would sure make things easier.

 

[rosco rathbone]

OK, I found it. It's the state DOT test that says "...cleaning may only be accomplished by hand chipping hammers, picks and wire brushes..."

1" plate, 3G, 4G

 

[thør]

OK, I found it. It's the state DOT test that says "...cleaning may only be accomplished by hand chipping hammers, picks and wire brushes..."

1" plate, 3G, 4G

Seems archaic. Why not give the man the tools to take the test with that he can use in the work. But, I'm more accustom to reviewing pipe specs, procedures, etc. Perhaps Ironworkers aren't allowed a grinder?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Seems archaic. Why not give the man the tools to take the test with that he can use in the work. But, I'm more accustom to reviewing pipe specs, procedures, etc. Perhaps Ironworkers aren't allowed a grinder?

I've always been a grinding fool in the field.

 

[thør]

I've always been a grinding fool in the field.

Nothing like a 9" grinder to make a man feel old at the end of the day.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Nothing like a 9" grinder to make a man feel old at the end of the day.

I love those air grinders.

 

[Saint Peter]

Seems archaic. Why not give the man the tools to take the test with that he can use in the work. But, I'm more accustom to reviewing pipe specs, procedures, etc. Perhaps Ironworkers aren't allowed a grinder?

I have taken plate tests before where the first half inch (and last if I remember correctly) was cut off and thrown away. Some test procedures will also allow a small strip to be tacked in front of the groove to get the rod warmed up on.

I doubt that start and stops will be held against him. The frilly ventilated hood with the Superman logo painted on it WILL be held against him. "Show Boating" is not allowed.

 

[thør]

I have taken plate tests before where the first half inch (and last if I remember correctly) was cut off and thrown away. Some test procedures will also allow a small strip to be tacked in front of the groove to get the rod warmed up on.

I doubt that start and stops will be held against him. The frilly ventilated hood with the Superman logo painted on it WILL be held against him. "Show Boating" is not allowed.

Indeed.........a bit of humility when taking the test might make the difference.......

I can handle an arrogant welder..........but, when he fucks up, he's down the road......

 

[rosco rathbone]

I have taken plate tests before where the first half inch (and last if I remember correctly) was cut off and thrown away. Some test procedures will also allow a small strip to be tacked in front of the groove to get the rod warmed up on.

I doubt that start and stops will be held against him. The frilly ventilated hood with the Superman logo painted on it WILL be held against him. "Show Boating" is not allowed.

The radiograph does not distinguish between starts, stops and any other part of the weld.

You can use runon strips though.

But no grinders. If I could grind, I wouldn't bother going to practice.

I call shots when connecting, but when it comes to welding I am very humble.

 

[Saint Peter]

The radiograph does not distinguish between starts, stops and any other part of the weld.

You can use runon strips though.

But no grinders. If I could grind, I wouldn't bother going to practice.

I call shots when connecting, but when it comes to welding I am very humble.

Radiography is combined with a visual inspection. The xray is more or less measuring how thick the weld is and if there are inconsistencies inside of it. You do not need a grinder to pass this test. Pipe is round, there is a start and stop that have to be tied together. That is not the case with plate so don't sweat it.

Pack a file, a scratch awl, and a light hammer in your bucket. File the "wagon tracks" left by the previous weld. Get a new file, not that worn out piece of shit you already have. The awl is for emergencies. Pound the fuck out of any, God forbid, slag pockets with the awl and hammer. Get all of the flux out and then go to town with the file.

You are golden.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Radiography is combined with a visual inspection. The xray is more or less measuring how thick the weld is and if there are inconsistencies inside of it. You do not need a grinder to pass this test. Pipe is round, there is a start and stop that have to be tied together. That is not the case with plate so don't sweat it.

Pack a file, a scratch awl, and a light hammer in your bucket. File the "wagon tracks" left by the previous weld. Get a new file, not that worn out piece of shit you already have. The awl is for emergencies. Pound the fuck out of any, God forbid, slag pockets with the awl and hammer. Get all of the flux out and then go to town with the file.

You are golden.

I've got a nice new file, but the awl is a good idea.

It's gonna be like a scene from a jailbreak film. "What are you doin in there?"

ree-raw-ree-raw-ree-raw "nothin"

 

[Saint Peter]

I've got a nice new file, but the awl is a good idea.

It's gonna be like a scene from a jailbreak film. "What are you doin in there?"

ree-raw-ree-raw-ree-raw "nothin"

Get a handle for the file if you do not have one. Scratch it like a bad case of jock itch. The Warden is cool with this. It is an accepted part of the test.

Times were slow for the tinners and I got a white ticket to weld for the iron workers. I showed up at the hall to take a test. There was another iron worker in the booth next to me doing the same.

The inspector wanted to take a look between every one of my passes. Right on. I went to town. Suddenly I am COVERED with sparks from the brother next door who is grinding out a weld. Alright. Not my hall, not my home. I continue on. The fucking guy did this after every pass.

When I got home there was a message on my machine telling me that a TIG job came into the sheet metal hall that had my name all over it. I never used the certs from the iron workers.

 

[rosco rathbone]

The inspector wanted to take a look between every one of my passes. Right on. I went to town. Suddenly I am COVERED with sparks from the brother next door who is grinding out a weld. Alright. Not my hall, not my home. I continue on. The fucking guy did this after every pass.

.

We're a little more relaxed about grinding etiquette.

Now if he was burning overhead without warning you, that'd be different.

 

[chillywilly2]

Very funny/


why so funny...I was an inspector for years and I can't even weld









QUOTE]

Nothing like a 9" grinder to make a man feel old at the end of the day.

I used to work in a seamless tube mill. Had to grind the seams out of the pipe. They spin a billet and get laps sometimes.
They had a generator there for the grinders. 300V DC for an 8" grinder. If you could stall your grinder you took it back to the tool crib. We worked for bonus.
There was no need to go to a gym to do weights at the end of the day

 

[rosco rathbone]

why so funny...I was an inspector for years and I can't even weld

Because I was talking about having bad vision.

I used to work in a seamless tube mill. Had to grind the seams out of the pipe. They spin a billet and get laps sometimes.
They had a generator there for the grinders. 300V DC for an 8" grinder. If you could stall your grinder you took it back to the tool crib. We worked for bonus.
There was no need to go to a gym to do weights at the end of the day

I've killed too many electrical tools. I prefer air.

 

[Saint Peter]

We're a little more relaxed about grinding etiquette.

Now if he was burning overhead without warning you, that'd be different.

I could care less about the sparks. I was a visitor in their house. But using a grinder on a weld test? WTF?

 

[chillywilly2]

Because I was talking about having bad vision.










I've killed too many electrical tools. I prefer air.

I never thought about the vision part...

 

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[rosco rathbone]

I don't usually find that the movie version adds much to my imagination, but next time I reread that book, Anton Chigurh will definitely be javier Bardem in my mind.