The Construction Thread

[rosco rathbone]

Did they ever build that base out in Nevada that was supposed to store nuclear waste until the sun went cold? It was designed to scare people away even if man returned to savagery.

 

[Saint Peter]

Did they ever build that base out in Nevada that was supposed to store nuclear waste until the sun went cold? It was designed to scare people away even if man returned to savagery.

After all the bombs that were poofed in Nevada I do not think it would matter if the matter was in boxes or ziplocks.

 

[rosco rathbone]

After all the bombs that were poofed in Nevada I do not think it would matter if the matter was in boxes or ziplocks.

Principle

Waste is placed in rooms 2,150 feet (655 m) underground that have been excavated within a 3,000 foot (1000 m) thick salt dome formation (Salado and Castile Formations) were salt tectonics has been stable for more than 250 million years[citation needed]. Because of plasticity effects salt and water will flow to any cracks that develop, it was chosen as a host medium for the WIPP project. Because drilling or excavation in the area will be hazardous long after the area is being actively used, there are plans to construct markers to deter inadvertent human intrusion for the next ten thousand years.[4][5][6]

[edit] Message for the future

Since 1991, the United States Department of Energy has been working with a team of linguists, scientists, science fiction writers, anthropologists and futurists to come up with such a warning system. The markers, called "passive institutional controls", will include an outer perimeter of 32, 25-foot-tall granite pillars built in a four-mile (6 km) square. These pillars will surround an earthen wall, 33 feet (10 m) tall and 100 feet (30 m) wide. Enclosed within this wall will be another 16 granite pillars. At the center, directly above the waste site, will sit a roofless, 15-foot (4.6 m) granite room providing more information. The team intends to etch warnings and informational messages into the granite slabs and pillars. This information will be recorded in the six official languages of the United Nations (English, Spanish, Russian, French, Chinese, Arabic) as well as the Native American Navajo language native to the region, with additional space for translation into future languages . Pictograms are also being considered, such as stick figure images and the iconic "The Scream" from Edvard Munch's painting. Complete details about the plant will not be stored on site, instead, they would be distributed to archives and libraries around the world. The team plans to submit their final plan to the U.S. Government by around 2028.[7]

From wiki

 

[Saint Peter]

Principle

Waste is placed in rooms 2,150 feet (655 m) underground that have been excavated within a 3,000 foot (1000 m) thick salt dome formation (Salado and Castile Formations) were salt tectonics has been stable for more than 250 million years[citation needed]. Because of plasticity effects salt and water will flow to any cracks that develop, it was chosen as a host medium for the WIPP project. Because drilling or excavation in the area will be hazardous long after the area is being actively used, there are plans to construct markers to deter inadvertent human intrusion for the next ten thousand years.[4][5][6]

[edit] Message for the future

Since 1991, the United States Department of Energy has been working with a team of linguists, scientists, science fiction writers, anthropologists and futurists to come up with such a warning system. The markers, called "passive institutional controls", will include an outer perimeter of 32, 25-foot-tall granite pillars built in a four-mile (6 km) square. These pillars will surround an earthen wall, 33 feet (10 m) tall and 100 feet (30 m) wide. Enclosed within this wall will be another 16 granite pillars. At the center, directly above the waste site, will sit a roofless, 15-foot (4.6 m) granite room providing more information. The team intends to etch warnings and informational messages into the granite slabs and pillars. This information will be recorded in the six official languages of the United Nations (English, Spanish, Russian, French, Chinese, Arabic) as well as the Native American Navajo language native to the region, with additional space for translation into future languages . Pictograms are also being considered, such as stick figure images and the iconic "The Scream" from Edvard Munch's painting. Complete details about the plant will not be stored on site, instead, they would be distributed to archives and libraries around the world. The team plans to submit their final plan to the U.S. Government by around 2028.[7]

From wiki

Damn quick with that, Rosco. Nice.

My responsibility for the stuff ended when the boxes left the site.

"You do not have to go home, but you can't stay here."

 

[chillywilly2]

From the WSJ via the ASCE Smart Brief:

"President Barack Obama's administration is learning that timetables for some shovel-ready projects eligible for stimulus funds are longer than expected. Construction on a shovel-ready bridge in Pennsylvania, for example, will not begin for nearly four months. State officials note that it takes time to advertise the project, collect bids and begin work."

Or, one could just hire Halliburton.[/QUOTE]

well, thats a good bunch of guys...they do a lot of government work

 

[thør]

Did they ever build that base out in Nevada that was supposed to store nuclear waste until the sun went cold? It was designed to scare people away even if man returned to savagery.

Uncle Harry Reid is determined to not let them build this.

(oops, that's Yucca Mt. Harry doesn't care about New Mexico)

 

[Byron In Exile]

Who's building right now?

It's all a bust.

Sorry, but, New York's got 25% of office space vacant.

Hate to piss on the party, but what do you think you're building for?

Is Obama going to populate the offices as well?

With money that comes from nowhere, i.e., taxes?

He's putting a load on the people that the people can't take.

Seriously.

Meanwhile, he's shovelling billions into corporations which have failed, which give their managers multi-million dollar bonuses, which are also worth one one-thousandth of the money he's shovelling into them.

Man of the people, indeed.

You've been had.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Socialism failed the Soviet Union.

They collapsed in 1989, remember that?

The Glorious Revolution lasted 70 years.

The United States has been running on Capitalism for over 200 years.

It fucking works.

We have our "Robber Barons," we sometimes have to break up Standard Oil into seven other companies...

But this.

Capital has infected the government.

This is Fascism.

This is Mussolini's dream come to fruition.

 

[Byron In Exile]

This government is not of the people anymore.

And honestly, it's because the Democrats control everything.

Vote Republican in every race from now on, and maybe we can put some sensible brakes on this thing.

Seriously.

I'm a Libertarian, and I hate to vote Republican, but, seriously, vote Republican, or this country is going to be seriously fucked up and pretty soon.

There has to be a check on these idiots.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Might be fucked up anyway, owing the $3 trillion spent in the last few months.

But, that's for your children to deal with.

I don't have any.

 

[Byron In Exile]

Damn quick with that, Rosco. Nice.

My responsibility for the stuff ended when the boxes left the site.

"You do not have to go home, but you can't stay here."

2028. Right.

That'll he a help then.

Assuming there's a United States at that time.

 

[chillywilly2]

Ummm...Byron..this is a Construction thread

 

[simpleman911]

Calif.

Let me tell you about construction in California. It ahs Stopped. There are lots of empty buildings with no one to occupy them. The idiots made too many too big, fro too long. Contractors charged too much and now this requires Landlords to charge too much. NOw the contractors are selling there boats and campers to pay their Mortage. I dont feel too sorry for them. Everybody living on the high hog not thinking about just making a living. How much can we gouge the little guy. The samll business man. The home remodeler. Prices are so far inflated. Our country needs a quick swift kick in the pants. Stop buying on credit. Stop buying what you cannot afford. Stop acting as if the country owes you something. I dont care about tunnels or bridges or empty buildings. What about our children? Can we afford some more teachers (underpaid) Can we reestablish youth organizations. Can we donate from the little we have to invest in our childeren for the future. Maybe just maybe they wont F this all up. Obama. I didnt vote for him. hes not going to save us from ourselves. Bring our boys home and lets get abck to just good old honest hard work , fair pricing and common respect.
Peace
OUt

 

[Saint Peter]

Ummm...Byron..this is a Construction thread

Fucking suits.

Who needs 'em?

 

[thør]

Who's building right now?

I'm working on several buildings right now.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Let me tell you about construction in California. It ahs Stopped. There are lots of empty buildings with no one to occupy them. The idiots made too many too big, fro too long. Contractors charged too much and now this requires Landlords to charge too much. NOw the contractors are selling there boats and campers to pay their Mortage. I dont feel too sorry for them. Everybody living on the high hog not thinking about just making a living. How much can we gouge the little guy. The samll business man. The home remodeler. Prices are so far inflated. Our country needs a quick swift kick in the pants. Stop buying on credit. Stop buying what you cannot afford. Stop acting as if the country owes you something. I dont care about tunnels or bridges or empty buildings. What about our children? Can we afford some more teachers (underpaid) Can we reestablish youth organizations. Can we donate from the little we have to invest in our childeren for the future. Maybe just maybe they wont F this all up. Obama. I didnt vote for him. hes not going to save us from ourselves. Bring our boys home and lets get abck to just good old honest hard work , fair pricing and common respect.
Peace
OUt

I'm a union construction worker, so there's a snowball's chance in hell that I would vote McCain over Obama.

As for the rest of your post, I have no debt, I have savings, I pay cash. Hard work, thrift and all the rest of it, yep yep yep.

 

[Peregrinator]

This seems like a good place for this. Received by email this morning:



DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted project which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing could get to it.

WIRE WHEEL: Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, 'Oh sh -- '

ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age.

SKILL SAW: A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short.

PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation of blood-blisters.

BELT SANDER: An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor > touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.

HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.

VISE-GRIPS: Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.

OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside the wheel hub out of which you want to remove a bearing race.

TABLE SAW: A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood projectiles for testing wall integrity.

HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the ground after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly under the bumper.

BAND SAW: A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to cut good aluminum sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside edge.

TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST: A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.

PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out Phillips screw heads.

STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER: A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws and butchering your palms.

PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.

HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to make hoses too short.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

UTILITY KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while in use.

DAMM-IT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling 'DAMM-IT' at the top of your lungs. It is also, most often, the next tool that you will need.

RACHET..........a little bigger than mouse shit

 

[Byron In Exile]

Ummm...Byron..this is a Construction thread

True.

The question is: why can't the USA rebuild the twin towers just as they were? Wouldn't that send the ultimate message?

Is the USA that much poorer now than it was in the 1970's?

Why didn't some of the TARP bill go there?

It all went to banks and God knows where it went after that.

Offshore accounts in the Caymans...

 

[rosco rathbone]

True.

The question is: why can't the USA rebuild the twin towers just as they were? Wouldn't that send the ultimate message?

Is the USA that much poorer now than it was in the 1970's?

Why didn't some of the TARP bill go there?

It all went to banks and God knows where it went after that.

Offshore accounts in the Caymans...

REbuild them say I.

It seems so fucking obvious.

 

[JohnnySavage]

REbuild them say I.

It seems so fucking obvious.

I was reading a biography of Col. Rathbone today and was reminded of you.

 

[Byron In Exile]

REbuild them say I.

It seems so fucking obvious.

Make them each one storey taller.

 

[thør]

REbuild them say I.

It seems so fucking obvious.

There might be some code upgrades......

 

[chillywilly2]

Make them each one storey taller.

Who owns them, who is gonna pay for it. It is now known that over 54 stories is not ecomomically practical.
These buildings were built to make the owners money, and thats the only reason they will be rebuilt in any form. Just my humble opinion

 

[chillywilly2]

There might be some code upgrades......

Why?...

 

[Byron In Exile]

Who owns them, who is gonna pay for it. It is now known that over 54 stories is not ecomomically practical.
These buildings were built to make the owners money, and thats the only reason they will be rebuilt in any form. Just my humble opinion

In Manhattan?

Are you kidding?

Any number of stories is economically practical.