The Construction Thread

Fubar was FUBARed

And I'm very glad Rosco was out of commission.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080316/ap_on_re_us/crane_accident_38

"Crews worked through the night and into the morning Sunday, sifting mounds of debris in search of survivors after a towering crane at a construction site toppled like a redwood across a city block, destroying buildings and killing at least four people.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said at least 10 others were injured in what he called one of the city's worst construction accidents. The dead were all believed to be construction workers."

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Some residents said they had complained to the city several times about the construction site. Crews worked illegal hours and the building was going up too fast, they said.

City officials said they had issued 13 violations to the site in the past 27 months, a normal amount for a project of that size. Inspectors examined the crane Friday and found nothing wrong with it.

City Building Department records show that a caller told officials on March 4 that the upper portions of the crane appeared to lack the proper number of safety ties attaching it to the building. A city inspector visited the site and determined on March 6 that no violation was warranted.

The collapse comes amid a building boom in New York City and follows a spate of construction accidents in recent months, including a few involving cranes. In 2006, a 13-foot piece of a crane mast that was being dismantled fell into the street and crushed a taxi cab.

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"Our bar is done. The crane crashed the whole building," said John LaGreco, who owned a tavern called Fubar in the brownstone's ground floor. "The crane crashed the whole building. If I wasn't watching a Yankees game, I would've come to work early and gotten killed."
 
I like to shoot from the hip.

Rumor is best.

Like when I heard of a 'welding fatality' at the Y-12 plant. Turns out, no welding was being performed, just cutting. And the soon to be dead man decided to 'cool himself' with a little O2 under his anti-C's. There is no cure for stupid. Well, there is one.......
 
I'd like to see the post mortium report on this.......

According to one report (don't know if it's been substantiated), the crane dropped a load, that took out an anchor, that cause the whole thing to come down.

The scariest thought (to me) is that it took out a building two blocks (about 350 feet) away.
 
According to one report (don't know if it's been substantiated), the crane dropped a load, that took out an anchor, that cause the whole thing to come down.

The scariest thought (to me) is that it took out a building two blocks (about 350 feet) away.

yeah, pretty scary.....some folk don't realize just how fragile those sticks are.....
 
Lumberjacks eat pretty good...

So, this dropped load. Operator error?

I have no idea. I saw one article about it on Sunday and it did not go into specifics.

I have no proof of this but my guts tell me that more times than not it is a problem with the rigging, not the operation of the crane.
 
I have no idea. I saw one article about it on Sunday and it did not go into specifics.

I have no proof of this but my guts tell me that more times than not it is a problem with the rigging, not the operation of the crane.

Just wondering. I've seen the operator let the winch freewheel and then slow the load down with the drum brake. Just to save a few seconds. It's dangerous and hard on equipment. And can overload a stick, in a manner that can cause a failure similar to the NYC incident.
 
Just wondering. I've seen the operator let the winch freewheel and then slow the load down with the drum brake. Just to save a few seconds. It's dangerous and hard on equipment. And can overload a stick, in a manner that can cause a failure similar to the NYC incident.

I was not saying they walk on water! A good operator is worth his weight in gold. A bad one is a liability.

I hope for everybody involved that pagan is correct and the equipment failed. Chokers do not have to sleep at night.
 
I was not saying they walk on water! A good operator is worth his weight in gold. A bad one is a liability.

I hope for everybody involved that pagan is correct and the equipment failed. Chokers do not have to sleep at night.

I hope the same.......
 
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