The Confederacy is the symbol of racist losers.

[IrezumiKiss]

Pathetic little smoot wannabe.

Pathetic failed jihadist.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Just like saying:

You don't have any power, you're a slave...

...submit, shut the fuck up, and keep picking.

And that is exactly what happened until the war. A few escaped. Some tried and we're murdered. Did you not attend high school?

 

[lovecraft68]

The Confederacy lost the Civil War. Their flag is the symbol of racist losers. Germany does not embrace the Nazi flag. It is certainly time that we do the same, after more than a century and a half of clinging to their whiny lamentations of white supremacy. Take down the flag and put it in a museum, relegating it to the ranks of history where it belongs.

Offensive or not....it falls under that whole "freedom" thing this country was built on.

The problem with forcing them to get rid of it is....it will open the door for other things to be gotten rid of and your tune would change if one of those other things was something you believed in.

That's why the second amendment should stand, not so much for what it stands for, but the fact that if they write it out....the floodgate is open and with the right to bare arms gone, other freedoms will follow like religion and speech....

This is a free country and that is for both the good and the bad.

 

[eyer]

And that is exactly what happened until the war. A few escaped. Some tried and we're murdered. Did you not attend high school?

What's high school got to do with a free racist piece of shit pontificating to anyone else...

..."You lost, bend your knee"?

 

[Mischka]

Offensive or not....it falls under that whole "freedom" thing this country was built on.

The problem with forcing them to get rid of it is....it will open the door for other things to be gotten rid of and your tune would change if one of those other things was something you believed in.

That's why the second amendment should stand, not so much for what it stands for, but the fact that if they write it out....the floodgate is open and with the right to bare arms gone, other freedoms will follow like religion and speech....

This is a free country and that is for both the good and the bad.

I am perfectly happy for any individual to embrace the flag of racist losers. But I would like our government - which is to represent us all - to move on to symbolism not associated with racist losers. If the Germans can do it, so can we. Albeit over a century after they acknowledged their mistakes and took down the flag of their racist losers.

 

[renard_ruse]

The Confederacy lost the Civil War. Their flag is the symbol of racist losers. Germany does not embrace the Nazi flag. It is certainly time that we do the same, after more than a century and a half of clinging to their whiny lamentations of white supremacy. Take down the flag and put it in a museum, relegating it to the ranks of history where it belongs.

Go fuck yourself.

http://denisesdreams.com/gifs/confederate_flag.gif

 

[renard_ruse]

I am perfectly happy for any individual to embrace the flag of racist losers. But I would like our government - which is to represent us all - to move on to symbolism not associated with racist losers. If the Germans can do it, so can we. Albeit over a century after they acknowledged their mistakes and took down the flag of their racist losers.

"Racist" isn't a word. Its a propaganda term invented by Lenin. That's right. Lenin, you know, the Commie guy, he coined it as a neologism. Its not even a word.

The US flag is a loser flag too. It lost to Mexico. USA = losers. Hehe...

https://kqduane.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/illegal-immigrants-climbing-over-border-fence-e1418339435269.jpg

 

[renard_ruse]

US Federal government = losers. China owns you.

 

[zipman]

The Confederacy lost the Civil War. Their flag is the symbol of racist losers. Germany does not embrace the Nazi flag. It is certainly time that we do the same, after more than a century and a half of clinging to their whiny lamentations of white supremacy. Take down the flag and put it in a museum, relegating it to the ranks of history where it belongs.

I am perfectly happy for any individual to embrace the flag of racist losers. But I would like our government - which is to represent us all - to move on to symbolism not associated with racist losers. If the Germans can do it, so can we. Albeit over a century after they acknowledged their mistakes and took down the flag of their racist losers.

I totally agree with all of this. The only thing I would add is that I prefer individuals to fly the confederate flags simply because that way it is easier to identify the ignorant, racist morons.

 

[Lord Pmann]

To those who think the civil war was about slavery... Well, your grasp of history is pretty bad. I say that as someone who is not a history buff at all.

With that said, I see that stupid flag flown all the time living in the south. I dislike it because I know what it represents when it's flown by the vast majority of people. I've yet to meet a person who flies that flag on their truck who isn't a racist bastard. They just are. That's not to say that person doesn't exist. I've just not met that person. It's most often used to express "southern pride" rather than outright racism. But the common thread in most of those southern pride people is racism.

I'm not arguing what the flag is intended. I'm saying that most of the people I have encountered who fly them are racist bastards.

 

[oggbashan]

I totally agree with all of this. The only thing I would add is that I prefer individuals to fly the confederate flags simply because that way it is easier to identify the ignorant, racist morons.

Outside the US, a Confederate Flag might only show that the owner is ignorant of the Flag's current associations with racism. About a mile away from my house there is a householder with a tall flagpole. He changes the flag on it frequently but doesn't understand flag protocol. Recently he was flying the Royal Standard - that means that Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is actually present (which she wasn't). He has flown the flags of Cuba, USSR, China, Taiwan, Malta and the Confederate Flag. On 4th July he does fly the Stars and Stripes - about the only thing he gets right.

One of our Members of Parliament made the mistake of assuming racism with the display of the Union Jack.

Yes, it can mean an ignorant, racist, moron who supports a racist party BUT it can also mean someone who is pleased and proud to be in England and accepted by the community.

That MP posted a critical comment on a picture she took of a house decorated with Union Jacks. The householder was one of HER party's supporters who was also supporting an England sporting team - a less obvious one such as Women's Hockey - but a national team nevertheless.

 

[Saint Peter]

I spent a week in Gettysburg last year. Stayed on the square. Friendly people and a beautiful place. There was a nearby bar that had good burgers. They also had the Stanley Cup on the big screen.

The Blue and Gray stuck a flag in every burger served. Half of those flags were Confederate. Racist losers? Possibly. Those racist losers sure made tasty crab cakes.

http://www.bluegraybargrill.com/

 

[NeverEndingMe]

The Confederacy lost the Civil War. Their flag is the symbol of racist losers. Germany does not embrace the Nazi flag. It is certainly time that we do the same, after more than a century and a half of clinging to their whiny lamentations of white supremacy. Take down the flag and put it in a museum, relegating it to the ranks of history where it belongs.

another example of a whinny PC person gone wrong, but thank you for trying

 

[need_2_cum]

Thank you.

The Confederacy lost the Civil War. Their flag is the symbol of racist losers. Germany does not embrace the Nazi flag. It is certainly time that we do the same, after more than a century and a half of clinging to their whiny lamentations of white supremacy. Take down the flag and put it in a museum, relegating it to the ranks of history where it belongs.

Thanks for you thoughts & courage . Sorry for the cave people who rant at you .

 

[Queersetti]

To those who think the civil war was about slavery... Well, your grasp of history is pretty bad. I say that as someone who is not a history buff at all.

I say as someone with a degree in American History, you are incorrect.

Every other issue that is raised as an alternative cause of the conflict is inextricably entangled with slavery.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I say as someone with a degree in American History, you are incorrect.

Every other issue that is raised as an alternative cause of the conflict is inextricably entangled with slavery.

This country was made through a deliberate, continuous, generational dirge of slavery and genocide.

This reaching hipster disingenuousness to pretend the Civil War had some meta multilayers beyond or not connected to America's deeply embedded fuckery of slavery needs to be deaded.

 

[toubab]

I say as someone with a degree in American History, you are incorrect.

Every other issue that is raised as an alternative cause of the conflict is inextricably entangled with slavery.

Depends on how you look at it. Lincoln, and the North in general, did not decide to prevent Southern secession by force of arms in order to destroy the institution of slavery. Quite the contrary. They were quite willing to allow the institution to continue, as long as the South remained in the Union.

 

[Saint Peter]

I thought about getting a degree in American History. Then I remembered that I would need a job after graduation.

 

[Queersetti]

Depends on how you look at it. Lincoln, and the North in general, did not decide to prevent Southern secession by force of arms in order to destroy the institution of slavery. Quite the contrary. They were quite willing to allow the institution to continue, as long as the South remained in the Union.

That begs the question of why the south decided to leave the Union.

 

[kbate]

I spent a week in Gettysburg last year. Stayed on the square. Friendly people and a beautiful place. There was a nearby bar that had good burgers. They also had the Stanley Cup on the big screen.

The Blue and Gray stuck a flag in every burger served. Half of those flags were Confederate. Racist losers? Possibly. Those racist losers sure made tasty crab cakes.

http://www.bluegraybargrill.com/

You fool! You should have gone to Tommy's Pizza - best pizza in Pennsylvania and big screens all over the dining room.

 

[toubab]

That begs the question of why the south decided to leave the Union.

They had a lot of reasons. Preservation of the institution of slavery was not paramount among them, however, as there was no threat by the North to end it. You are right, however, that slavery touched on many things, especially economic matters, but it was the right of secession itself that was the main issue, and the main cause of the war.

 

[Saint Peter]

You fool! You should have gone to Tommy's Pizza - best pizza in Pennsylvania and big screens all over the dining room.

Is Tommy's next to one of the ghost tour places?

 

[Queersetti]

They had a lot of reasons. Preservation of the institution of slavery was not paramount among them, however, as there was no threat by the North to end it. You are right, however, that slavery touched on many things, especially economic matters, but it was the right of secession itself that was the main issue, and the main cause of the war.

That's a reach. Do you rely believe that the south didn't want to secede but decided to do so just to prove they could?

A political entity isn't going to secede from a larger union unless they either feel threatened to the extent that they don't believe they have any other options, or because they think there is some great gain in it for them. In the case of the Confederacy, their motivation contained elements of both, and slavery is intrinsic to their reasoning in either.

 

[hashtag45]

You fool! You should have gone to Tommy's Pizza - best pizza in Pennsylvania and big screens all over the dining room.

my best pizza ever was a designa pizza :
- thin base, no sauce whatsoever, 3 *jalapenos and 2*pepperonis

 

[toubab]

That's a reach. Do you rely believe that the south didn't want to secede but decided to do so just to prove they could?

A political entity isn't going to secede from a larger union unless they either feel threatened to the extent that they don't believe they have any other options, or because they think there is some great gain in it for them. In the case of the Confederacy, their motivation contained elements of both, and slavery is intrinsic to their reasoning in either.

Of course they wanted to secede. And the North didn't want to allow them to go in peace. If you think the North had some desire to keep the South in the Union for any reason other than self interest we will have to disagree.