the Commander in Chief Test (political)

If only the results of his stupidity were nearly as funny as the man himself.
 
Did you see the latest?

In the middle of an attack ad claiming Obama is painting himself as a messianic figure, McCain's campaign used a quote that had been shown to be a fabrication almost 24 hours earlier, one attributed to Obama by Dana Millibank and which was disproven by multiple other sources.

Last night, Pat Buchanan got shouted down by four other reporters when he, somehow drawing a blank or simply not paying attention to the conversation, tried to use the quote to support his position less than a minute after the others had been discussing the fact that the quote was fabricated.

This is from the same campaign that can't remember to have a presidential candidate pay his five years overdue property taxes in San Diego and can't seem to get it's candidate to remember that there is no longer such a country as Czechoslovakia.

Isn't eight years enough? Quick, somebody get McCain a copy of My Pet Goat and see if he gets stuck on the same page for seven minutes.
 
I believe you could take anybody who has been filmed or videotaped many times, and edit the recordings to make them look foolish.
 
I believe you could take anybody who has been filmed or videotaped many times, and edit the recordings to make them look foolish.

It's done all the time darlin'. First it was late night variety shows for fun, now it's the media with 'sound bites' as attention grabbers.
 
It's done all the time darlin'. First it was late night variety shows for fun, now it's the media with 'sound bites' as attention grabbers.


Right. And folks squeal with salivating glee when they do it to someone in the the party they don't like and they squeal with outraged indignation when it's done to someone in the party they do like. Sort of juvenile hypocritical is what I think SPA was noting.
 
Right. And folks squeal with salivating glee when they do it to someone in the the party they don't like and they squeal with outraged indignation when it's done to someone in the party they do like. Sort of juvenile hypocritical is what I think SPA was noting.

Not exactly. I was saying it is dishonest, and news media shouldn't do it if they want to be believed.
 
Not exactly. I was saying it is dishonest, and news media shouldn't do it if they want to be believed.

Oh, then I think you're pretty naive about both the functioning of the news media and the interests of those paying to get news media. :)
 
Not exactly. I was saying it is dishonest, and news media shouldn't do it if they want to be believed.

Hah! The news media has abandoned any believeability in favor of ratings and selling advertising.

Their motto is 'Broadcast it now, verify it later'.
 
Rocket Man

If you watch FOX News, you've already been getting it.

I was a communications major in college..... I worked in the broadcast media writing drive time news for the largest radio station in the market. I learned a lot.....
1. Errors come from "re-writing" the news to make it sound better.... not because of any political agenda.
2. The agenda for major broadcast media (ABC, NBC, CBS,PBS and later CNN) has ALWAYS been apolitical. It has ALWAYS been focused on what sells.... good video, controversy, celebrities, etc..
3. As the 4th estate, many journalists saw it as there duty to question the government.... But if it was their duty, the broadcast media, rarely lived up to it.... but occasionally there were flashes of credibility... those who dared question the status quo in the tradition of Edward R. Murrow... but very few.
4. Fox News, languishing in obscurity despite the massive deep pockets of their owners, looked around for a "hook" to attract viewers. What they found were the right wing demagogues and commentators whose livings was rooted on the great "liberal" news bias which was running "the" media... In short, the media that kept bring all that bad, and anti-government news to them every night. So Fox adopted a conscious policy to politicize their "news" broadcasts to attract this relatively small, but highly motivated minority of viewers. This was not, I believe, driven by any philosophical agenda, on the contrary, it was driven by the same superficial "marketing" which drove the other outlets... "What sells" in other words.

So where did all this "liberal" bias hysteria come from? The short version is that during the Johnson years, some journalists began to question the b.s. being published by the government, ironically at the time, the otherwise liberal LBJ....in regards to Viet Nam.
Many Americans, The "greatest Generation" who had devoted their lives to the defense of their country felt betrayed by this criticism of their government and the lines were drawn across the political landscape. And across the media.
Nixon and his infamous running mate Spiro Agnew, played to this generation in the great "Silent Majority" campaign strategy. Sound politics.... and it worked. People who really did not want to believe that their government was lying and manipulating them..... that the Viet Nam war WAS really a struggle for freedom such as WW II was....
But how to explain the news to the contrary that kept washing across their TV screens every night? News of the war mishandling, South Vietnamese corruption and the inherent nationalist popularity of the Viet Cong. The TET offensive, coming as it did after the government had long declared the war was being won.... this crap HAD to be explained away.

And so was born the great "Liberal Bias" theory. All this bad stuff was not really happening.... it was just the biased liberal news media which was, presumably, making it all up.

It worked and Nixon was elected and the war went on. And as it went on, so did, inevitably, the bad news. By now, it was an automatic response... all is well... it's just the Liberal Media at work..... right up to the last days of Watergate when even the most die-hard Republicans gave up on Nixon.

But the legacy remained.... of the great liberal news bias.... at least in the minds of the Rush Limbaugh’s of the world looking for their own "hook" to popularity....

Enter Fox News and the era of a marketing strategy based on this inherently ludicrous belief…. “Ludicrous” you say? Of course, it is “ludicrous”…. Look at the vast numbers of media outlets supposedly under the “leftist” cabal but owned by international, profit making conglomerates. Is it even marginally credible they are ALL biased and Fox is not? Of course not.

The other commercial media is scared to death of this bias thing, never real to begin with, and they go to painful extents to always present a counter viewpoint to any news which puts the government or a political personality in a bad light. Want to hear what the relatively unknown Obama has to say about the war? You will also HAVE to listen in equal length to McCain’s explanation of his views that you have been hearing for years. We can’t have “bias“, can we?

The purpose of this digression cum hijack was to offer my opinion on why someone would cite an obviously opinionated and sarcastic You Tube spoof of McCain as an example of the biased “news media”….. (you will note the video specifically references itself as a response to a YouTube video spoofing Obama…. An example of hard nosed, un-biased journalism presumably).

As a student of the media, I have tried for years and years to explain this to those whose refer to this “liberal bias” myth… but rarely do I succeed in reversing this biggest of the “big lies”…… but I will continue to try.

Such a …… no, I am NOT going to say it!
:D

-KC
 
I was a communications major in college..... I worked in the broadcast media writing drive time news for the largest radio station in the market. I learned a lot.....
1. Errors come from "re-writing" the news to make it sound better.... not because of any political agenda.
2. The agenda for major broadcast media (ABC, NBC, CBS,PBS and later CNN) has ALWAYS been apolitical. It has ALWAYS been focused on what sells.... good video, controversy, celebrities, etc..
3. As the 4th estate, many journalists saw it as there duty to question the government.... But if it was their duty, the broadcast media, rarely lived up to it.... but occasionally there were flashes of credibility... those who dared question the status quo in the tradition of Edward R. Murrow... but very few.
4. Fox News, languishing in obscurity despite the massive deep pockets of their owners, looked around for a "hook" to attract viewers. What they found were the right wing demagogues and commentators whose livings was rooted on the great "liberal" news bias which was running "the" media... In short, the media that kept bring all that bad, and anti-government news to them every night. So Fox adopted a conscious policy to politicize their "news" broadcasts to attract this relatively small, but highly motivated minority of viewers. This was not, I believe, driven by any philosophical agenda, on the contrary, it was driven by the same superficial "marketing" which drove the other outlets... "What sells" in other words.

So where did all this "liberal" bias hysteria come from? The short version is that during the Johnson years, some journalists began to question the b.s. being published by the government, ironically at the time, the otherwise liberal LBJ....in regards to Viet Nam.
Many Americans, The "greatest Generation" who had devoted their lives to the defense of their country felt betrayed by this criticism of their government and the lines were drawn across the political landscape. And across the media.
Nixon and his infamous running mate Spiro Agnew, played to this generation in the great "Silent Majority" campaign strategy. Sound politics.... and it worked. People who really did not want to believe that their government was lying and manipulating them..... that the Viet Nam war WAS really a struggle for freedom such as WW II was....
But how to explain the news to the contrary that kept washing across their TV screens every night? News of the war mishandling, South Vietnamese corruption and the inherent nationalist popularity of the Viet Cong. The TET offensive, coming as it did after the government had long declared the war was being won.... this crap HAD to be explained away.

And so was born the great "Liberal Bias" theory. All this bad stuff was not really happening.... it was just the biased liberal news media which was, presumably, making it all up.

It worked and Nixon was elected and the war went on. And as it went on, so did, inevitably, the bad news. By now, it was an automatic response... all is well... it's just the Liberal Media at work..... right up to the last days of Watergate when even the most die-hard Republicans gave up on Nixon.

But the legacy remained.... of the great liberal news bias.... at least in the minds of the Rush Limbaugh’s of the world looking for their own "hook" to popularity....

Enter Fox News and the era of a marketing strategy based on this inherently ludicrous belief…. “Ludicrous” you say? Of course, it is “ludicrous”…. Look at the vast numbers of media outlets supposedly under the “leftist” cabal but owned by international, profit making conglomerates. Is it even marginally credible they are ALL biased and Fox is not? Of course not.

The other commercial media is scared to death of this bias thing, never real to begin with, and they go to painful extents to always present a counter viewpoint to any news which puts the government or a political personality in a bad light. Want to hear what the relatively unknown Obama has to say about the war? You will also HAVE to listen in equal length to McCain’s explanation of his views that you have been hearing for years. We can’t have “bias“, can we?

The purpose of this digression cum hijack was to offer my opinion on why someone would cite an obviously opinionated and sarcastic You Tube spoof of McCain as an example of the biased “news media”….. (you will note the video specifically references itself as a response to a YouTube video spoofing Obama…. An example of hard nosed, un-biased journalism presumably).

As a student of the media, I have tried for years and years to explain this to those whose refer to this “liberal bias” myth… but rarely do I succeed in reversing this biggest of the “big lies”…… but I will continue to try.

Such a …… no, I am NOT going to say it!
:D

-KC

:D:D:D
 
As long as people KNOW that it's a fake for entertainment value, I don't see anything wrong in a little satire. It's when you twist facts around to make them seem legite that things have gotten out of hand.

Kinda like when an impersonator in Sweden phoned up several big companies and doctors and stuff,pretending to be a Swedish rapper - they humiliated this guy completely, because there was no way anyone could know it wasn't the real deal. If they had chosen a politician and made fun of his politic views, it would have been OK, because everyone with half a brain can understand that when a right-wing party leader chants communistic slogans, it's a fake for fun's sake. But the way they did it, they just hurt the rapper's name for nothing - the jokes weren't even that funny.

But slap on a sticker explaining it's a clip montage for fun's sake, and I'm OK with it.
 
Of course he's clueless, he's a politician, so is Obama. Politicians all have one thing in common, they have at least one person telling them what to think and say. They don't think, they don't want to think thinking makes them realize that they are kissing babies and stealing their money and jobs away from them and their parents.

Well OK they actually have another thing in common, they will say whatever they think will work best to get elected, they will tell something to one group, then turn around and tell a contradictory thing to another group just for votes. they know the contradictions will be noticed, they also know that they only lose maybe 5% of the voters from the two groups because they spoke directly to the two groups. If pressed for an explanation they will simply say I will do my very best to make sure I did not lie to either group. Of course they then do whatever they promised to the first two groups to a third group, because this third group needed it more, it's just a coincidence they contributed way more money to my campaign. :rolleyes:
 
What's astonishing to me is that some of y'all are assuming it's a "news" item.

WTF?
 
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