The Brokeback Effect: What Movies....?

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There's a great deal of talk about how Brokeback Mt. is giving Westerns a whole new subtext. I think it goes further than that. With a few adjustments, so many other movies could be "Brokebacked."

For example, the later Matrix Movies, which would have been so much better if they'd been "Brokebacked"....

"Mr. Anderson!" would be said with a whole different emphasis.
And consider all those slow motion scenes! Why just go for bullets when so many other, um, things can fly in slow motion?
And then there's the whole relationship between Neo and Morpheus....um, wait. Maybe that subtext is already there...(Red pill or blue pill? Whole other meaning, huh?).

Any movies you think could be improved with a little "Brokeback"?
 
Pirates of the Carribean!
Arrr!

(as if a million slash fans haven't figured that one out already)

Every buddy movie you can think of from the last five years has been "brokebacked" by the internet community. It makes writing het the new and unusual thing to do....
 
Stella_Omega said:
(as if a million slash fans haven't figured that one out already)
Ah, but slash is so overt! Guys confess their love and hop into bed...for a long time.

To be truely "Brokeback" you have to restrain yourself--the hero only gets one gay sex scene and then has to spend the rest of the movie wishing he could "quit"...and telling his wife that he's going fishing.

Neo to Trinity: "Just going to take another visit to the Matrix...no, no, don't need you to come along, I'll do fine up against Agent Smith...damn...I wish I could quit him...." :D
 
Movies evolve. If the big outfits see commercial viability in gay themed mainstream movies, there will be a rash of them. Predominantly, you will probably see rehashes of tried and true themes with the simple addition of gay protagonists.

Things in hollywood are pretty formulamatic, so if you are being cutting edge with one vector, you will hedge your bets by being conservative with the others.

I would not doubt a war movie was on the horizon, perhaps weaving in growing sexually along with the tried and true coming of age in combat routine. Probably set in vietnam or later.

the ultimate arbiter is the recepts fromthe box office. It would take only one or two "brokeback" stinkers to convince people this movie's success was in the novelty. At the sam time, a couple of bix box takes in similarly themed movies will probably move a long way to making the character's sexuality "in bounds" as plot device.
 
Star Wars would be different. Han and Chewie were unusually close and emotionally in sync. Han could even decipher Wookie speak. Maybe they weren't gay, I'm just saying...
 
3113 said:
Ah, but slash is so overt! Guys confess their love and hop into bed...for a long time.

To be truely "Brokeback" you have to restrain yourself--the hero only gets one gay sex scene and then has to spend the rest of the movie wishing he could "quit"...and telling his wife that he's going fishing.

Neo to Trinity: "Just going to take another visit to the Matrix...no, no, don't need you to come along, I'll do fine up against Agent Smith...damn...I wish I could quit him...." :D
This just made me practically choke on water. :D

I think Fast and The Furious could do with some brokebacking. Oh, and don't forget Master and Commander, that's definitely not gay enough. :rolleyes:
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Movies evolve. If the big outfits see commercial viability in gay themed mainstream movies, there will be a rash of them. Predominantly, you will probably see rehashes of tried and true themes with the simple addition of gay protagonists.

Yeah, but admit it. You want to see Bruce Willis on top of the building again, fire hose tied around him, running away from the explosion shouting "Yippee Kayay (sp?) you sexually independent, outside of the norm yet perfectly comfortable with your won sexuality while I'm uncertain and getting divorced for reasons I'm not ready to come to terms with Mother Fucker! This really is the last time!"

Yeah, that was the version that should have been made to begin with.

Q_C
 
I was thinking Reservoir Dogs.

"Can I be mr Pink?"
 
Quiet_Cool said:
Yeah, but admit it. You want to see Bruce Willis on top of the building again, fire hose tied around him, running away from the explosion shouting "Yippee Kayay (sp?) you sexually independent, outside of the norm yet perfectly comfortable with your won sexuality while I'm uncertain and getting divorced for reasons I'm not ready to come to terms with Mother Fucker! This really is the last time!"

Yeah, that was the version that should have been made to begin with.

Q_C


Have you SEEN Bruce Willis' dick? Trust me, we can be glad the movie was as decent as it was.
 
Svenskaflicka said:
Have you SEEN Bruce Willis' dick? Trust me, we can be glad the movie was as decent as it was.
Ah! This just reminded me of the #1 movie I wish had been "brokebacked..."

The Piano. With buck naked Harvey Keitel. I spent that movie hoping he was in love with the piano instead of Holly Hunter...no such luck.

But if they "Brokebacked" it, then Harvey could go for Sam Neill...and maybe this time, Jane Champion could sink to the bottom of the ocean with the piano :devil:
 
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3113 said:
There's a great deal of talk about how Brokeback Mt. is giving Westerns a whole new subtext. I think it goes further than that. With a few adjustments, so many other movies could be "Brokebacked."

For example, the later Matrix Movies, which would have been so much better if they'd been "Brokebacked"....

"Mr. Anderson!" would be said with a whole different emphasis.
And consider all those slow motion scenes! Why just go for bullets when so many other, um, things can fly in slow motion?
And then there's the whole relationship between Neo and Morpheus....um, wait. Maybe that subtext is already there...(Red pill or blue pill? Whole other meaning, huh?).

Any movies you think could be improved with a little "Brokeback"?

Gay male has transcended many boundaries - I have not seen this movie yet, but I am guessing it is a Hollywood Narrative, and as such it changes nil. Other than a couple of gay guys? What conventions did it change in the mainly male genre of the Western. Interested. :)
 
3113 said:
Ah! This just reminded me of the #1 movie I wish had been "brokebacked..."

The Piano. With buck naked Harvey Keitel. I spent that movie hoping he was in love with the piano instead of Holly Hunter...no such luck.

But if they "Brokebacked" it, then Harvey could go for Sam Neill...and maybe this time, Jane Champion could sink to the bottom of the ocean with the piano :devil:

*swoons*

I love that one.

Lawrence of Arabia
 
Harry Potter: What Hermione Doesn't Know.

There's Something About Harry

When Harry Met Harry

Sleepless in Steve Attle

Men in Back

James Bond: For Your Bis Only.

Love Bug: Herbie is Really Fully Loaded!

Mr and Mr Smith

Larry Croft: Womb Evader

(How much would a porn company pay for a good title?)
 
You should watch the documentary-movie, 'The Celluloid Closet'....subtexts have been around in the movie world for almost as long as the movies themselves, even back to the silent ones, and particularly in westerns. You just have to read the signs.

Celluloid Closet

Brokeback was just more honest.
 
matriarch said:
You should watch the documentary-movie, 'The Celluloid Closet'....subtexts have been around in the movie world for almost as long as the movies themselves, even back to the silent ones, and particularly in westerns. You just have to read the signs.

Celluloid Closet

Brokeback was just more honest.

Love this quote (one of hundreds) from the film:

Screenwriter [Paul] Rudnick (Jeffrey, In and Out, Addams Family Values) points to some very obvious (and hilarious) homoerotic subtexts in such 1950s sex comedies as Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and Lover Come Back -- despite the Production Code. "You can’t keep homosexuality out of the movies," he declares, "any more than you can keep it out of life."
 
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