The better submissive!

il mio angelo

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Okay, the gloves are off here subs and slaves.. who is the best? There seems to be a real "my submission is better than yours" attitude around here, so I thought we can finally put it all to rest once and for all. Come on girls and boys, show us what you've got!


For my Dom I would-

Crawl naked over medical waste, needles jabbing at my flesh.

Walk into a bar with a sign around my neck reading "pick a hole, any hole.. it's all yours baby"

Lick his razorblade clean after his morning shave.

Drink the expired milk, just to prove that those chunks are quite filling, and yet safe.

Allow him to finally see just what will happen if he attaches the jumper cables to my nipples.

Show up at the family Thangsgiving dinner with SLUT written across my forehead in glitter paint (Grandma's heart has been a lot stronger these days).

Have a root canal without anesthesia... why cost him more money, and afterall, I am supposed to like ALL pain, right?
 
il mio angelo said:

Have a root canal without anesthesia...


i do this anyway, i refuse to take pain killers for dental work - i had a wisdom tooth pulled without anesthesia my dentist thought i was nuts and refused to do the other 3 - i took gas for the other 3 just coz it's fun :p
 
No one wants to compete? Damn.... :(



I hope to Goddess that even those without a sense of humor know this thread is just a joke.... or at least an over the top exaggeration of what I see here on occasion.
 
il mio angelo said:

I hope to Goddess that even those without a sense of humor know this thread is just a joke.... or at least an over the top exaggeration of what I see here on occasion.

Oh, thank goodness. For a long second there... *shudder*

;)
 
You win, hands down, no contest, undisputed champ. I am in awe of your .... what the hell word do I use for it????

lol :p
 
il mio angelo said:
Okay, the gloves are off here subs and slaves.. who is the best? There seems to be a real "my submission is better than yours" attitude around here, so I thought we can finally put it all to rest once and for all. Come on girls and boys, show us what you've got!


For my Dom I would-

Crawl naked over medical waste, needles jabbing at my flesh.

Walk into a bar with a sign around my neck reading "pick a hole, any hole.. it's all yours baby"

Lick his razorblade clean after his morning shave.

Drink the expired milk, just to prove that those chunks are quite filling, and yet safe.

Allow him to finally see just what will happen if he attaches the jumper cables to my nipples.

Show up at the family Thangsgiving dinner with SLUT written across my forehead in glitter paint (Grandma's heart has been a lot stronger these days).

Have a root canal without anesthesia... why cost him more money, and afterall, I am supposed to like ALL pain, right?


My lady may I ask if your dom would appreciate that, although I can see you are mayhap perfect, for me my lady must be be loyal obedient and loving.
 
The point I was trying to make......

This thread was intended as a slam of sorts to a ceetain behavior that I often see take place here on the boards. Frequently I will read posts by submissives stating an opinion based on their desires or beliefs, honest in every way... only to be pumbled in a latter post by another submissive implying that the first is not quite submissive enough.

I have heard on several occasions from newbies visiting the board that they feel instantly judged based upon their limits or thoughts of certain acts. I find it terrible that in a lifestyle that we are already judged on by the vanilla world, to be then turning on, and judging those that are exploring or discovering themselves here.

I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. that I do not question, but when there are those that feel it is neccessary to make others question their level of dedication to their Dominant, and perhaps their place in this lifestyle altogether, it just makes me sick. I will not name names, nor flame anyone here... that would be just as bad. The first post of this thread was intended to show that it is not the acts themselves that are important, nor is anyone more or less submissive than anyone else here... merely different.

Perhaps my sense of humor was not understood as I thought it would be, or maybe I just wasn't clear in the message I was trying to convey. I was simply trying to teach tolorance and understanding, and how ridiculous it can all sound when exaggerated.
 
Re: The point I was trying to make......

il mio angelo said:
This thread was intended as a slam of sorts to a ceetain behavior that I often see take place here on the boards. Frequently I will read posts by submissives stating an opinion based on their desires or beliefs, honest in every way... only to be pumbled in a latter post by another submissive implying that the first is not quite submissive enough.

I have heard on several occasions from newbies visiting the board that they feel instantly judged based upon their limits or thoughts of certain acts. I find it terrible that in a lifestyle that we are already judged on by the vanilla world, to be then turning on, and judging those that are exploring or discovering themselves here.

I believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. that I do not question, but when there are those that feel it is neccessary to make others question their level of dedication to their Dominant, and perhaps their place in this lifestyle altogether, it just makes me sick. I will not name names, nor flame anyone here... that would be just as bad. The first post of this thread was intended to show that it is not the acts themselves that are important, nor is anyone more or less submissive than anyone else here... merely different.

Perhaps my sense of humor was not understood as I thought it would be, or maybe I just wasn't clear in the message I was trying to convey. I was simply trying to teach tolorance and understanding, and how ridiculous it can all sound when exaggerated.


OK, I have resisted posting as I didn't want to add to the feel I got from the original post. Though you stated the humour angle later on, I still felt it was something else thinly veiled, and was a divisive statement. I haven't noticed the competition significantly, though people do express their different views which I like and learn from, and do occasionally call people on things they see as questionable, often in the interests of their own protection.

I think perhaps, though you say it was in humour, and this is not meant to be personal or attacking, the last posting, such as statements like, it just makes me sick. I will not name names, nor flame anyone here... that would be just as bad. , and the opening sentence of the post, just highlight it was not about humour. I am not disputing your right to how you feel, and maybe you have good reason, but if you want to make it in humour, you need to stick with that in a very obvious way. If not, be open about your thoughts and perhaps things you see will change through discussion and communication with other posters. Being direct, IMO, is the surest and most time saving way things ever change.:rose:

Catalina
 
Re: Re: The point I was trying to make......

catalina_francisco said:
OK, I have resisted posting as I didn't want to add to the feel I got from the original post. Though you stated the humour angle later on, I still felt it was something else thinly veiled, and was a divisive statement. I haven't noticed the competition significantly, though people do express their different views which I like and learn from, and do occasionally call people on things they see as questionable, often in the interests of their own protection.

I think perhaps, though you say it was in humour, and this is not meant to be personal or attacking, the last posting, such as statements like, it just makes me sick. I will not name names, nor flame anyone here... that would be just as bad. , and the opening sentence of the post, just highlight it was not about humour. I am not disputing your right to how you feel, and maybe you have good reason, but if you want to make it in humour, you need to stick with that in a very obvious way. If not, be open about your thoughts and perhaps things you see will change through discussion and communication with other posters. Being direct, IMO, is the surest and most time saving way things ever change.:rose:

Catalina


Thank you Catalina for your response. As I said, my original intent with this thread was to be humorous in an attempt to maybe make people see certain attitudes reflected in their own posts. Several people did see what I was getting at, and did agree with me.... but I feared that others may think that I was actually serious with my opening post.

I think you may misunderstand what I meant in saying that "it just makes me sick" .... I am speaking of the affect and discouragement that certain posts can have on others. I think that some people shy away from posting after they are made to feel that what they do in their relationship or life isn't 'real' enough, or quite submissive enough to others here.

Maybe instead of calling my intent humor, I should call it sarcasm, but my goal was not to cause controversy, rather to make the few people that I see post in such a way realize that although it is great to have an opinion, and it helps us all to read varied ideas, judging people and condeming them for what they prefer or don't is not right. I guess it all just boils down to one of the first lessons that I learned here - there is no rule book in D/s, and everyone does it, lives it, and desires it in very different ways.:D
 
Re: Re: Re: The point I was trying to make......

il mio angelo said:

I think you may misunderstand what I meant in saying that "it just makes me sick" .... I am speaking of the affect and discouragement that certain posts can have on others. I think that some people shy away from posting after they are made to feel that what they do in their relationship or life isn't 'real' enough, or quite submissive enough to others here.

Maybe instead of calling my intent humor, I should call it sarcasm, but my goal was not to cause controversy, rather to make the few people that I see post in such a way realize that although it is great to have an opinion, and it helps us all to read varied ideas, judging people and condeming them for what they prefer or don't is not right. I guess it all just boils down to one of the first lessons that I learned here - there is no rule book in D/s, and everyone does it, lives it, and desires it in very different ways.:D

Well as I said, I did not mistake that statement for what it was saying, just that I thought it better to not try and pass it off as humour when it obviously disturbs you so much. I have mixed feelings about those who are new (or old for that matter) and say they feel too challenged to post on the board. Firstly, I think overall, this board is unusual in it does not make a habit of flaming people, nor do we attack people just because they happen to be new or not one of the group as I have heard is customary on many internet boards.

More importantly, I do not believe, nor like to promote submissives as little wilting flowers standing in the corner too scared to say 'boo'. To me that is not a submissive and that type of person is going to find a Dominant far more 'challenging' than any poster on this board. IMO, if a sub does not have some grit, they are not going to make it and remain sane, which concerns me in relation to SSC.

As for judging, as I said a few months ago, it is interesting it is raised as a negative term when associated with opinions, when every day we make 'judgements' out of necessity. Judgement is a way of life for everyone, whether they like to admit it or not. When you choose not to associate socially with someone you are making a judgement......saying you have a different opinion to another is also a judgement...it is what defines our personalities and character and makes us an interesting, uniquely diverse group of people. The trick is to get to a place where you can feel comfortable enough to stand by your judgements, and not necesarily use them as weapons against others. Discussing them, and saying 'I don't agree with you', is not frightening or discriminating. It opens the world to allowing people to evolve and learn from each other.

C:rose:
 
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Hey, you forgot something:

Dear I,

Take your pick:

Having you mouth washed out with soap.

Or, lighting your hair on fire.


:p :p :p :p :p
 
Re: Hey, you forgot something:

Peter2002 said:
Dear I,

Take your pick:

Having you mouth washed out with soap.

Or, lighting your hair on fire.


:p :p :p :p :p

oh, you better not mess with the hair... if you burn it all off, what will you wrap your hands in during various activities? And have you ever smelled burning hair??? It is right on par with rotten eggs :(
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: The point I was trying to make......

catalina_francisco said:
Well as I said, I did not mistake that statement for what it was saying, just that I thought it better to not try and pass it off as humour when it obviously disturbs you so much. I have mixed feelings about those who are new (or old for that matter) and say they feel too challenged to post on the board. Firstly, I think overall, this board is unusual in it does not make a habit of flaming people, nor do we attack people just because they happen to be new or not one of the group as I have heard is customary on many internet boards.

More importantly, I do not believe, nor like to promote submissives as little wilting flowers standing in the corner too scared to say 'boo'. To me that is not a submissive and that type of person is going to find a Dominant far more 'challenging' than any poster on this board. IMO, if a sub does not have some grit, they are not going to make it and remain sane, which concerns me in relation to SSC.

As for judging, as I said a few months ago, it is interesting it is raised as a negative term when associated with opinions, when every day we make 'judgements' out of necessity. Judgement is a way of life for everyone, whether they like to admit it or not. When you choose not to associate socially with someone you are making a judgement......saying you have a different opinion to another is also a judgement...it is what defines our personalities and character and makes us an interesting, uniquely diverse group of people. The trick is to get to a place where you can feel comfortable enough to stand by your judgements, and not necesarily use them as weapons against others. Discussing them, and saying 'I don't agree with you', is not frightening or discriminating. It opens the world to allowing people to evolve and learn from each other.

C:rose:

Catalina, again I appreciate your perspective and opinion, thank you. I am not speaking of judgement in general terms, and I agree wholeheartedly with you that there are at times 'overly sensitive' people here. The judgement and attitude that I am talking about is one based on everyones personal desires and opinions. I will use myself as an example - I really enjoy pain, and I am turned on by it a great deal. I love to be pushed in this area, and taken further all the time. There are some submissives and slaves here that do not enjoy pain at all.... Now, if I were to tell someone that they were 'less' submissive because they didn't like pain, I would be exhibiting the behavior that I am referring to. I can also apply this in reverse - I do not like, nor desire to engage in scat play, or beastiality, however some here do. Does that make them 'better' than me? Are they a more dedicated sub than I am because they do not have this limit? I don't think so, but I have read posts by some here that put others down for having such limits.

Judgement is reality, we all do it in one way or another. We see those that are different than we are, and though we may try to understand their differences, we at times cannot. All that I am saying is that a sub should not be rated by the things that she/he will or will not do, having limits and desires that differ from one submissive to another makes us all individuals. The different and similar perspectives that we all bring to this board are what makes it a great place to learn. No one is a better or lesser submissive/slave because of the things they do or don't do... just different.

~angel:rose:
 
Re: Hey, you forgot something:

Peter2002 said:
Dear I,

Take your pick:

Having you mouth washed out with soap.

Or, lighting your hair on fire.


:p :p :p :p :p



Is there a choice #3 ? :(
 
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