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DesertPirate

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Got this from a friend and it seems to check out. These questions need answers NOW!


This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives me crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.

I started looking into Obama's life.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.

By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which was Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he make a mistake'. Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.

Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?

A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!
 
I'm impressed, DP, you did some footwork!
You even cited your sources, although-- links are considered the way to do that.

I guess you're going to vote for mcCain, huh?
 
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I think you are disgusting. And I'm not particularly an Obama fan. But certainly not a fan of the type of person you exhibit either.
 
I'm impressed, DP, you did some footwork!
You even cited your sources, although-- links are considered the way to do that.

I guess you're going to vote for mcCain, huh?

I said that months ago. There was never a doubt. :D
The more I look at this the more it bothers me. :(
 
Tell you what-- everyone knows you'll be voting right-wing. It's okay. I promise that any remarks I make pro or con are not aimed towards you-- I am not trying to convince you who are unconvinceable.

You are mining a very wierd paranoia seam here, however. For some reason, these bizzare hodgepodges (thanks, Liar) of fantasy scare you more than the obvious and in-your-face terrifying realities that McCain and his lipsticked vagina are shoving right into our nation's faces. Racism, bigotry, personal vendettas pretending to be national issues? Not the American way.

Stop with the loony-tunes, yanno? My finger wants to twirl around near my ear.
 
Tell you what-- everyone knows you'll be voting right-wing. It's okay. I promise that any remarks I make pro or con are not aimed towards you-- I am not trying to convince you who are unconvinceable.

You are mining a very wierd paranoia seam here, however. For some reason, these bizzare hodgepodges (thanks, Liar) of fantasy scare you more than the obvious and in-your-face terrifying realities that McCain and his lipsticked vagina are shoving right into our nation's faces. Racism, bigotry, personal vendettas pretending to be national issues? Not the American way.

Stop with the loony-tunes, yanno? My finger wants to twirl around near my ear.

I didn't dig it all up but I did check before posting. The simple answer is, we know most of McCains history and the rest is easy to find. We know very little of Obamas history and it appears to guarded.
Stella favorite, Sean Hanity will do something on Obamas past at 9PM EDT Sunday.
 
In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).

The home he purchased below the asking price? His was the highest offer. And not the only offer. Asking price does not equal true market value.

DP, you should never offer the asking price. When I bought my condo, the asking price was 170K. I paid 155K.

I am not in possession of the answers about his personal finances.
 
Even if he is Muslim (which he isn't), so fucking what?

Where is it written that you have to be a certain religion to be president?

Sorry to state the oh-so-obvious, but contrary to what you may think, the U.S. is not a "Christian country." It was founded on the principle of freedom of and from religion. Get over it.
 
I didn't dig it all up but I did check before posting. The simple answer is, we know most of McCains history and the rest is easy to find. We know very little of Obamas history and it appears to guarded.
My personal savior, Sean Hanity will provide more lies and insane hate-mongering on Obamas past at 9PM EDT Sunday.
i fixed your quote.

Now I'm putting you on ignore untill you stop drinking that sterno.
 
hey, d p, in your research did you find mccain's confession to "black crimes" against the vietnamese people?

did you see the video by a fellow serviceman and prisoner about McC's unstable temperament?

did you find out why he had no prospects for promotion and left the military? he had injuries, but could have taken administrative duties, as many former pilots do.

like many senators, he's a millionaire, and like some, he didn't start that way. ever figure that one out?
 
It's disturbing that the right has to stoop to xenophobia and racist attacks now that they're behind in the polls. Shame on them. I used to simply disagree with them on policy, but that has turned to contempt after seeing their vile attacks on Obama filled with bigotry and paranoia.
 
I'm not putting him on ignore.

One must be able to see the problem. Also, I have no mistaken beliefs that I can talk sense into him. However, I also think someone must refute the idiocy so that he doesn't get a free ride.

He's becoming more and more seriously deluded though. *sigh*
 
I'm not putting him on ignore.

One must be able to see the problem. Also, I have no mistaken beliefs that I can talk sense into him. However, I also think someone must refute the idiocy so that he doesn't get a free ride.

He's becoming more and more seriously deluded though. *sigh*

You're too kind. Deluded people are generally inoffensive, if not slightly amusing.
 
DesertPirate from reading your postings on this and other threads I'm thinking our backgrounds aren't that far apart. Middle-aged white guys, prior military service, gun owners, voted Republican most of our lives - am I right?

Then what I don't get is how you can post the pure unadulterated bilge that you posted. You KNOW that's propaganda and BS. Crap like that is indefensible dude!

There apparently is one big difference between the two of us. I'm not in love with a particular political party or candidate. I've always voted for the best POLICIES. Most of the time, except for GW I've voted Republican (I'm STILL pissed at his old man about "Read my lips..."), but this time it isn't even close.

McCain has TERRIBLE policies. They just plain suck (at least the ones he's admitted to - there are too many he's not sharing and that scares the shit out of me). I'm not in love with Obama's policies either, but the ARE better.

Don't even get me started on VPs that I NEVER want to be in control of a nuclear arsenal.

So take your blinders off and forget your partisanship. This thing is too important to follow the "party"


PURE: Saying "did you find McCain’s confession to "black crimes" against the Vietnamese people?" is world-class chickenshit. The man was a prisoner of war and was getting beaten and tortured daily. Using that is reprehensible.
 
Got this from a friend and it seems to check out. These questions need answers NOW!


This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives me crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.

I started looking into Obama's life.

Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.

By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented 'Rezar' which was Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money' for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.

Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?

On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.

Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he make a mistake'. Some mistake!

All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.

Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?

A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!
You would think that with the resources available to us we would make ourselves informed, you would think that what you’ve found out would at least make people wonder and start checking it out for themselves. It is as if they are hypnotized and have no free will. They all say the exact same thing. Do you think we will have to call him the Messiah like Lewis Farrakan does or just your majesty? Do they really believe that a band of angels will come down and everything will be wonderful? And what will happen if it is McCain who‘s elected? Will he be given the respect that he deserves or will he be mocked and insulted? I think the country is truly divided and that neither side can see or are even willing to understand the other.

Obama came out of nowhere, with tons of money, and no experience and he is going to be the savior of our country? That’s what really bothers me about him. He’s a junior senator with no record. Yes, he is very smart but who is he really? And why has he associated himself with people and originations of questionable intensions? He hasn’t answered that to my satisfaction yet. Sigh. I hope for our sakes if he is elected, he proves to live up to all of his hype.

McCain has served our country with honor all of his life. He almost died for it; he was a prisoner of war and showed great integrity and bravery. He is willing to, and has the record of, working with both sides of the parties. Yet the far left treats him with the vilest of names and accusations. God help us all. No matter who wins, he will be our leader and deserves all of the respect that goes with that office. I only hope that whoever it is serves our interest with integrity and sincerity and does justice to the office.

I agree with you, where did he get the money to go on that trip all over the world? How did he buy a house for over a million dollars when making only $12,000 a year?

We do have the right to ask these questions and he should be willing to answer them truthfully.

It will all be over in a few weeks. Then the press will find something else to fixate on. I will be very happy to see voting day arrive and leave.
 
You would think that with the resources available to us we would make ourselves informed, you would think that what you’ve found out would at least make people wonder and start checking it out for themselves. It is as if they are hypnotized and have no free will. They all say the exact same thing. Do you think we will have to call him the Messiah like Lewis Farrakan does or just your majesty? Do they really believe that a band of angels will come down and everything will be wonderful? And what will happen if it is McCain who‘s elected? Will he be given the respect that he deserves or will he be mocked and insulted? I think the country is truly divided and that neither side can see or are even willing to understand the other.

Obama came out of nowhere, with tons of money, and no experience and he is going to be the savior of our country? That’s what really bothers me about him. He’s a junior senator with no record. Yes, he is very smart but who is he really? And why has he associated himself with people and originations of questionable intensions? He hasn’t answered that to my satisfaction yet. Sigh. I hope for our sakes if he is elected, he proves to live up to all of his hype.

McCain has served our country with honor all of his life. He almost died for it; he was a prisoner of war and showed great integrity and bravery. He is willing to, and has the record of, working with both sides of the parties. Yet the far left treats him with the vilest of names and accusations. God help us all. No matter who wins, he will be our leader and deserves all of the respect that goes with that office. I only hope that whoever it is serves our interest with integrity and sincerity and does justice to the office.

I agree with you, where did he get the money to go on that trip all over the world? How did he buy a house for over a million dollars when making only $12,000 a year?

We do have the right to ask these questions and he should be willing to answer them truthfully.

It will all be over in a few weeks. Then the press will find something else to fixate on. I will be very happy to see voting day arrive and leave.

Why don't you do the research yourself instead of believing a bunch of crap emails? Even easier still, why don't you check out the Snopes link posted above? It shows what a bunch of bullshit that email is.

Of course, you might have to just engage your brain and think. Something that is hard for you, I'm sure.
 
Why don't you do the research yourself instead of believing a bunch of crap emails? Even easier still, why don't you check out the Snopes link posted above? It shows what a bunch of bullshit that email is.

Of course, you might have to just engage your brain and think. Something that is hard for you, I'm sure.

Ah, when all else fails....name calling and insults! Just what I expected. Have a nice day.:rose:
 
I was right. Too stuck in ideology to even bother to do any research.

How sad.

What a plethora of blatherskites! (definition: a bunch of crap) Public education is so lacking sometimes.

Too blinded by hate and bigotry to even see another person's side of the equation. There are pills for that I think. :D

I SAID that he had not answered my questions. I NEVER called him a name, or stupid or blamed him for anything. I Said that I have questions. Maybe you should reflect on your own behavior and words?

Just as you have the right to your beliefs, I have the right to my own. But unlike you, I respect your rights.

I suppose I'm dun(done for you more learned folks) with this Idiocy and will go on to read Erotica. Oh, look this is a friendy erotic forum.

I will not call you names or question your brain power. I am sure you are really, really smrt.(that's smart, sorry, my brain is so empty sometimes)

(And just in case you are wondering Yes, I am making fun!)
 
What a plethora of blatherskites! (definition: a bunch of crap) Public education is so lacking sometimes.

Too blinded by hate and bigotry to even see another person's side of the equation. There are pills for that I think. :D

I SAID that he had not answered my questions. I NEVER called him a name, or stupid or blamed him for anything. I Said that I have questions. Maybe you should reflect on your own behavior and words?

Just as you have the right to your beliefs, I have the right to my own. But unlike you, I respect your rights.

I suppose I'm dun(done for you more learned folks) with this Idiocy and will go on to read Erotica. Oh, look this is a friendy erotic forum.

I will not call you names or question your brain power. I am sure you are really, really smrt.(that's smart, sorry, my brain is so empty sometimes)

(And just in case you are wondering Yes, I am making fun!)

Perhaps it would be helpful if you didn't make so many assumptions. I am university educated...probably more educated than you are, to be honest. Certainly as educated.

You have the right to your own beliefs, certainly, but if you expect any respect for that, then you need to think, do some research, and not rely blindly on something as stupid as the email DP posted above.

When you do that, then respect will follow. Not until then.
 
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