The attraction of violent women ?

[ishtat]

What is it about women fighting that men find such a turn on?

My wife lectures a class which includes two young women who play Rugby. The girls told her that they have a regular following of young men who watch the game in the hope that one of the women will put a big hit on another. They are not there to admire the skill of the players, just their capacity to thump another woman...hard.

My wife suggested that these men might need watching but was assured that they were completely normal "nice guys." She was also told that the men admire the women who dish out the punishment rather than the one who cops it. Any sympathy is very limited.

I thought nothing much about it until one of my daughters showed me a Youtube clip of the semi final of the Womens Rugby World Cup between England and Australia. The fact that England won quite easily was hardly commented on at all but just one hit (by Nicole Beck on Fiona Pocock) and the commentaters (men) all but orgasmed. The fact that the English woman had to be stretchered off drew some passing sympathy but all the admiration was for the perpetrator.

Why?

I would have linked the clip of this incident but can't figure out how to isolate it from a group of others which has been posted

 

[Handley_Page]

Not my personal scene, so to speak, but I'd guess it's because it is a rather unusual occurrence. And the girls ain't wearing twin-set & Pearls, I guess.

I suspect it has a similar effect as some women who really get orgasmic over wrestling (and I don't mean the choreographed stuff).

What's everyone else figure ?

PS. Why Violent ?
Enthusiastic on the pitch, may be, but not necessarily violent ?

 

[Liar]

There's a tomboy stereotype with a clear sexual undertone. An implicit assumption that if they fight (or drink, or walk, or dress, what-have-you) like a man, they'll also fuck like one. As in, anytime, anywhere, for any reason.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Pfffft. Just a bunch of wannabe dyke tykes. If they were chicks you'd call them all fag hags.

 

[3113]

It's why Roller Derby was (and once again is) always popular, because the women thump and fight and knock each other aside.

I suspect it's simply that great combination for men: roughhousing and women. Like putting peanut butter and chocolate together, why not have them both?

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I guess everyone has their own fetish. It doesn't do anything for me. As far as I'm concerned, fighting should be professional and business-like. That means it's over fast and fatal.

 

[TE999]

I think Hooters should have Friday Night Fights and Jell-O wrestling featuring its' servers and any other pretty women who happen to drop by. I bet their business would double.

 

[ishtat]

I think I managed to get that clip right this time. The hit is about 20 seconds in. England in White, Australia in Green and Gold


http:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9r2gKV_v30


Listen to the commentators wax lyrical and then their ho hum response to her injury at the end.

 

[Verdad]

I suspect it's simply that great combination for men: roughhousing and women. Like putting peanut butter and chocolate together, why not have them both?

That was my explanation, too. If there’s something deeper to it, I’d love to hear.

 

[amicus]

Perhaps merely 'bread & circus' for the masses? Christians are no longer fed to the Lions with a roaring crowd watching, but Pro Football is about as brutal a sport outside Professional Boxing that most societies will permit anymore.

I have always been curious about the amount of 'competitive sports' that begin in the early years of schooling, even 'Quiddich' (sp) matches for the very young.

And...since women did not participate in contact sports of any kind until after about the 1920's, perhaps in part it is a 'feminist' thing?

Ami

 

[Pure]

thoughts

for a start, i agree with liar,

liarAn implicit assumption that if they fight (or drink, or walk, or dress, what-have-you) like a man, they'll also fuck like one. As in, anytime, anywhere, for any reason.

but secondly, let's not forget that besides 'woman being violent', and hence being sexually aggressive (in fantasy), there is 'violence against a woman'. here, Pocock, is literally knocked on her ass by the rough (though presumably legal) tackle. for a typical male viewer, i suspect, this is one of the rare occasions, in our PC times, when the violence he might imagine, sometimes, is actually carried out. ms pocock, to use a metaphor, was (in some viewers' minds) banged, and banged good. and obviously a least a few female viewers may be drawn to this element as well, as shown in their taste for 'roller derby' type events.

in the iconic Kill Bill, most of the violence, i.e. apart from the mass scenes like in the nightclub, is woman on woman.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Two studies, done by women, disclose that females outscore males in every category of violence except tissue injury. IE, females initiate conflict, escalate conflict, and generally throw the first punch before men knock them into next week. I observed this at the hospital and in the field with cops. The little woman is always ready to start some shit.

So I think males are kinda stuck with violent females cuz so many of them are violent or antagonistic.

The studies reveal that black females are the most aggressive.

 

[JuanVato]

It is a strange facination.
I think some of the women who do Roller Derby are fun and interesting.
The ones I have met exhibit humor and a fair degree of sarcasm, which is very sexy.

 

[bronzeage]

I love my Rollergirl. She is a superb athlete who skates hard and depends on grace and skill to win, not brute force. Her favorite saying is "you can't block what you can't see."

She comes off the track hot, sweaty, a little bruised and in need of a deep tissue massage.
http://www.bestofbatonrouge.com/images/flair/redstickrollerderby.jpg

 

[oggbashan]

That was a fairly normal, and fair, tackle for women's Rugby.

The only difference between that tackle and others is that the person tackled was injured.

Og

 

[CharleyH]

What is it about women fighting that men find such a turn on?

My wife lectures a class which includes two young women who play Rugby. The girls told her that they have a regular following of young men who watch the game in the hope that one of the women will put a big hit on another. They are not there to admire the skill of the players, just their capacity to thump another woman...hard.

My wife suggested that these men might need watching but was assured that they were completely normal "nice guys." She was also told that the men admire the women who dish out the punishment rather than the one who cops it. Any sympathy is very limited.

I thought nothing much about it until one of my daughters showed me a Youtube clip of the semi final of the Womens Rugby World Cup between England and Australia. The fact that England won quite easily was hardly commented on at all but just one hit (by Nicole Beck on Fiona Pocock) and the commentaters (men) all but orgasmed. The fact that the English woman had to be stretchered off drew some passing sympathy but all the admiration was for the perpetrator.

Why?

I would have linked the clip of this incident but can't figure out how to isolate it from a group of others which has been posted

Lesbian thing, that's the turn on. Men relate to lesbians, butch or top lesbians because they can picture themselves in the role of the top and taking down (ultimately making that bitch their own) that girl. I think it's a projective wish fulfilment fantasy. Well, that's my take.

 

[SeaCat]

IU'm not interested in a violent female. Been there done that.

On the other hand a female who can and will assert herself, who can and will defend herself, well that is a whole 'nother kettle of stew.

Cat

 

[Miss_Pixie]

Guys (most but not all) just like to see violence. They also like boobies. Women are sometimes violent, and have boobs, be they large or small. It's not that hard to figure out why they are fascinated. lol

 

[Dragonlipz]

Play 'Misty' for me...............

 

[SeaCat]

Play 'Misty' for me...............

Beer Spew.

Now that brings back memories.

I wonder how many people have seen that movie.

Cat

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Lesbian thing, that's the turn on. Men relate to lesbians, butch or top lesbians because they can picture themselves in the role of the top and taking down (ultimately making that bitch their own) that girl. I think it's a projective wish fulfilment fantasy. Well, that's my take.

I tend to agree with Charlie. I'm a big fan of bad movies, so I've sat through more than my share of catfights. They don't do anything for me and I've never really understood the big fascination, but I imagine it has something to do with the quasi-lesbian nature of women being physically intimate and uninhibited, along with the jiggling and clothes-ripping and skin.

I'd make a clear distinction between lone female violence and catfighting, though. The latter has clear domme overtones. I don't think catfighting does. Mrs. Peel from the old Avengers--a domme's domme if every there was one--and Uma Thurman too, from the Kill Bill series, would never descend to the silliness of squealing and hair-pulling. Different genres entirely.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Lesbian thing, that's the turn on. Men relate to lesbians, butch or top lesbians because they can picture themselves in the role of the top and taking down (ultimately making that bitch their own) that girl. I think it's a projective wish fulfilment fantasy. Well, that's my take.

I tend to agree with Charlie. I'm a big fan of bad movies, so I've sat through more than my share of catfights. They don't do anything for me and I've never really understood the big fascination, but I imagine it has something to do with the quasi-lesbian nature of women being physically intimate and uninhibited, along with the jiggling and clothes-ripping and skin.

I'd make a clear distinction between lone female violence and catfighting, though. The latter has clear domme overtones. I don't think catfighting does. Mrs. Peel from the old Avengers--a domme's domme if every there was one--and Uma Thurman too, from the Kill Bill series, would never descend to the silliness of squealing and hair-pulling. Different genres entirely.

I recently saw Million Dollar Baby again and in full, and it was interesting because Hillary Swank's character was physically devastating as a fighter but also very non-domme as a woman. I'm wondering if she has the same sexual attraction to men who like violent women as a Mrs. Peel or Uma Thurman.