The age old rant

[RawHumor]

Okay, I am not particularly fond of sci-fi erotica. Therefore, if I see a story that is categorized as sci-fi and it's about a Martian Squid Monster who fucks a dozen Chinese college girls... well, I just won't read it.

I have a new story. It's listed under the BDSM category. It's called Cunt Mouth Whore.

Now, call me simple-minded, but I'd tend to think that there's a pretty good indication of who my target audience is.

And yet I get people reading the story and then posting comments that I should grow up. *I* should grow up?

Believe it or not, some women actually like this story or I wouldn't have even posted it. Sheesh.

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[3113]

And yet I get people reading the story and then posting comments that I should grow up. *I* should grow up?

Almost every category gets...I guess you'd call them semi-trolls who go after those stories that bug them rather than turn them on. Think of them as the sort who join the homeowners associations to complain about houses with the wrong sort of mailbox. They think they're there to clean up, mature, beautify or correct some grievous wrong and make the world a better place either by shaming those who read stories like this (i.e. they might not feel the same if the genders were reversed), or shaming those who read anything in this category.

It's their crusade

 

[RawHumor]

One of the people who complained was an author herself, and used her name, which I appreciated.

Nothing beats anonymous bitchmail.

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

3113 hit the mark.

To give the devil its due, the comment wasn't anon.

Just remember the words of that great philosopher, Ricky Nelson, "ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself."

And FWIW, while I hate, loathe, and don't even like very much second-person, your's was one of the better ones I've come across.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[RawHumor]

And FWIW, while I hate, loathe, and don't even like very much second-person, your's was one of the better ones I've come across.

Rumple Foreskin

Thank you.

I have 3 'scenes' like that... somewhat cyber-type things...

Actually, I agree with you. I normally can't stand to read those types of stories, but for short scenes I think it can work.

 

[Recidiva]

I like you.

But I am probably not reading it.

Titles do say so much.

edit: I write in romance. My stuff would probably bore the crap out of you.

 

[RawHumor]

I like you.

But I am probably not reading it.

Titles do say so much.

edit: I write in romance. My stuff would probably bore the crap out of you.

Thank you. That's my point.

I mean, I don't like gay male stories or chain stories or 50+ chapter stories so much... so I just don't read them. I'm weird that way.

 

[Recidiva]

Thank you. That's my point.

I mean, I don't like gay male stories or chain stories or 50+ chapter stories so much... so I just don't read them. I'm weird that way.

I've gotten a wealth of empiric data here by writing. I started really as an actress and musician, and so in the world of artistic endeavor, I was rarely responsible for content, only interpretation. I could act in a crap play and still shine. I could take a crap piece of music and make it sound better.

However, as a writer, it's entirely different. Not only are you responsible for execution, but content. I've had to rewire my brain from thinking that I could be an objective audience or an objective author. I like what I like and I write what I like. If I try to write in categories I don't like, it just sounds all sortsa wrong, and me trying too hard to be flexible.

I'm not objective, I'm not flexible. As a writer, I can only write what I know, and if I go much beyond that, I might as well go back to acting, I'm just making shit up.

 

[RawHumor]

I'm not objective, I'm not flexible. As a writer, I can only write what I know, and if I go much beyond that, I might as well go back to acting, I'm just making shit up.

Exactly. If it doesn't turn me on, then I can't put myself into the scene properly, and I'm just throwing words into the keyboard.

 

[Recidiva]

Exactly. If it doesn't turn me on, then I can't put myself into the scene properly, and I'm just throwing words into the keyboard.

I think erotica was some of the best teaching for writing that I could get, mostly because of exactly that mechanic. Being turned on by anything is so specific, you can't possibly write for everyone, or you end up diluting what makes it specific.

That also explains why you're getting trolled, BTW.

Why EVERYONE here gets trolled. Putting your specific up for competition with someone else's specific makes conflict with those who can't be objective and aren't shy about their opinions.

 

[RawHumor]

It's funny.

Someone can call me all sorts of names in the forums and it doesn't bother me, but criticism of my stories tends to bother me a bit more.

 

[galaxygoddess]

I pass on that whole category anyway, to be nice, it bothers me. So I just pass it over.

But that's the thing, I pass it over. I know I'm not going to like it, I know I'm not into that kind of thing, or at least not at a point where I feel comfortable exploring that idea, and so I'm not even going to look at it.


Just your title alone makes me scream "no touchy!" so if they read it and they get pissed over the context, why the hell are they there in the first place?


I can't stand people who pick something apart or complain about something they don't like even when it's plainly labeled "hey you might not agree with this".

The whole damn world needs to grow the hell up. That person needs to look in the mirror and then repeat their own words. If you ignored the warning signs and tags and seek to insult someone over something you didn't like, then you are a child. End of story.



I'm sure it's "good" to some people, but it's so not my cup of tea ;P

I'm a romance writer myself... >.>

 

[Guest]

Exactly. If it doesn't turn me on, then I can't put myself into the scene properly, and I'm just throwing words into the keyboard.

Shit - you're completely right.
So much for my big lesbian cheerleader gangbang.

*rriiiiippppppp*

 

[RawHumor]

Shit - you're completely right.
So much for my big lesbian cheerleader gangbang.

*rriiiiippppppp*

If you make them lesbian sister cheerleaders, I don't care if you're into it or not... it might just work anyway.

 

[Guest]

Yeah yeah yeah - I'll get right on that Raw.

I dunno - I've never been trolled. If it isn't any good, it just gets iggied.
Never been one bombed.

*Sigh* Kind of like my experience on the GB actually. I am an acquired taste, the ones who like me say so, the ones who don't stay away.

Guess that's probably a pretty nice place to be, actually.

 

[Recidiva]

Oh, hey, here's my zero bomb on my latest, for solidarity:

OMG
07/30/07 By: Anonymous in USA
..that was such mindless drivel. my suggestion? stop plagierizing Harlequin Romances, sister

 

[amicus]

3113 hit the mark.

To give the devil its due, the comment wasn't anon.

Just remember the words of that great philosopher, Ricky Nelson, "ya can't please everyone, so ya got to please yourself."

And FWIW, while I hate, loathe, and don't even like very much second-person, your's was one of the better ones I've come across.

Rumple Foreskin

~~~

Ah, that, ah, 'great philosopher', "Garden Party", I think, he also sang another 'philosophical rendering' of a song in the film "The Wackiest Ship in the Army", "Do you know what it means, to miss New Orleans..."

ami

 

[RawHumor]

Oh, hey, here's my zero bomb on my latest, for solidarity:

OMG
07/30/07 By: Anonymous in USA
..that was such mindless drivel. my suggestion? stop plagierizing Harlequin Romances, sister

Ya gotta love constructive feedback.

My favorite comment in my latest story was: "The title of this masterpiece says it all."

Um... it's supposed to. That being said, again, why the fuck did you read it?