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The enemy within: Soldier suicides outpaced combat deaths in 2012

By Bill Briggs, NBC News contributor

More soldiers took their own lives than died in combat during 2012, new Department of Defense figures show. The Army's suicide rate has climbed by 9 percent since the military branch launched its suicide-prevention campaign in 2009.

Through November, 177 active-duty soldiers had committed suicide compared to 165 during all of 2011 and 156 in 2010. In all of 2012, 176 soldiers were killed in action -- all while serving in Operation Enduring Freedom, according to DOD.

Army suicides have increased by at least 54 percent since 2007 when there were 115 — a number the Washington Post then called "an all-time record." An Army spokesman said Wednesday it is uncertain if 177 marks a new annual high (with December numbers still to come), or if suicides have ever outpaced combat deaths in a single year, because the Army has not always tracked suicides.

Some Army families who recently lost members to suicide criticize the branch for failing to aggressively shake a culture in which soldiers believe they'll be deemed weak and denied promotion if they seek mental health aid. They also blame Army leaders for focusing more heavily on weeding out emotionally troubled soldiers to artificially suppress the branch's suicide stats versus embracing and helping members who are exhibiting clear signs of trouble.

Furthermore, in September, two U.S. lawmakers pressured the Pentagon to immediately use unspent money specifically appropriated to the agency to help slow the suicides within the military. Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., and Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, also pushed for increased anti-suicide funding for the Department of Defense in 2013.

“The Pentagon hasn’t spent the money that it has for suicide prevention for this year — and that money wasn’t nearly enough money to reach all the soldiers who need help. Now we are hearing about bureaucratic technicalities at the Pentagon that are preventing them from acting. This is unconscionable,” Rep. McDermott said. “The Pentagon is funded to help soldiers and needs to do much more on the epidemic of suicides."

But the Department of Defense contends that anti-suicide programs installed throughout the armed services soon will curb military suicides — and that such initiatives already have helped douse mental-health stigmas.

"We have seen several programs that we are optimistic are going to start making a dent in this issue," said Jackie Garrick, acting director of the DOD suicide prevention office. "We’ve asked all of the services to use the same messaging, the same talking points. So the Army, included in that, is trying to adapt and promote those same messages because we realize that this is an across-the-board problem."

The Army could not provide a suicide-prevention officer to comment, but an Army spokeswoman did forward NBC News a link to the “Army Suicide Prevention Program.”

Within that initiative, soldiers are taught to “Ask, Care, and Escort” any Army buddy who mentions considering suicide, to usher them to behavioral-health provider, chaplain, or a primary-care provider, and to “never leave your friend alone." The U.S. military also installed a prevention “lifeline:” 1-800-273-TALK.

What's more, soldiers are assured that seeking mental-health counseling will not harm their chances at gaining a security clearance. And on that website, a videoshows Sgt. Maj. Raymond F. Chandler III, the Army's top non-commissioned officer, speaking to other NCOs: “Know your soldiers. Know the resources available to them when they are in crisis ... Encourage your soldiers to seek help ... Seeking help is a sign of courage.”

The anti-suicide strategy was rolled out in April 2009 by Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli.

In July 2010, the Army released a report that sought to explain its suicide epidemic. Some Army families were irked by one of the key findings: Loosened recruitment and retention standards — due to the furious pace of repeated deployments — had allowed more than 47,000 people to remain in the Army despite histories of substance abuse, misdemeanor crime or “serious misconduct.”

Chiarelli further frustrated many Army families who had lost members to suicide when, amid the release of that same report, he added: “I think it’s fair to say in some instances it would be a soldier that’s possibly married, couple of kids, lost his job, no health care insurance, possibly a single parent.” Those types of soldiers, he added, are “coming in the Army to start all over again, and we see this high rate of suicide.”

Two days before Charielli’s comments, 28-year-old Army soldier Brandon Barrett showed up at his parents' home in Tucson, Ariz. The family believed he was on leave following a brutal, year-long deployment in Afghanistan with the 5th Stryker Brigade during which he saw several buddies killed or wounded by bombs and did some killing himself.

During that visit, Barrett’s family thought his Army experience seemed to be helping him to mature, recalls his brother, Shane Barrett, a detective with the Tucson Police Department.

In August, Brandon Barrett left his parents’ home and drove — for unknown reasons — to Salt Lake City where he donned his combat fatigues, boots and helmet, grabbed his AR-15 rifle, went to a hotel and told an employee to call the police. As he waited for the officers, Barrett paced the hotel parking lot as if he was on patrol, a hotel video showed. A police officer arrived. Barrett shot him in the leg. The officer returned fire and killed Barrett with a bullet to the head. His family believes Barrett intended to commit “suicide by cop,” his brother acknowledged.

Brandon Barrett confided to a chaplain within his unit, the Barrett family learned since his death, revealing that his year of combat in Afghanistan had left him depressed and anxious.

“He’d been home for nearly a month,” Shane Barrett told NBC News. “We had no contact from anybody in the Army until my brother’s incident. And then, after the fact, it was: ‘Your brother was AWOL (absent without leave).’ Really? We didn’t know that.

“If a guy goes AWOL, the Army is supposed to notify the family immediately. We never received phone calls, letters. We were blindsided. At the police department where I work, they ran all kinds of record checks on him. But they found absolutely nothing (about an AWOL report).

“My mother has always believed he was declared AWOL after the fact just so the Army could get him off the rolls and not have his suicide count against the Army,” Shane Barrett said. “To just discard him, like he never existed, is just wrong. And there’s no paper trail, no nothing to back up the AWOL claim.”

The Barrett family later learned that Brandon had confided to a chaplain within his unit, revealing that his year of combat in Afghanistan had left him depressed and anxious. And possibly mulling suicide.

“From talking to a couple of other guys in his unit, he didn’t want to come forward (to seek mental-health help) because you’d be red-flagged. It would be your exit out of the Army,” Shane Barrett said. “The guys in the Army are just flat-out afraid to come forward.”

At the Department of Defense, anti-suicide chief Garrick was asked if the Army is indeed clinging to a culture of “suck it up" and handle your own problems,” as some Army families contend.

In an Oct. 10, 2012 photo, MaKayla Merritt holds her brother William Busbee's uniform with her mother Libby Busbee, right, and sister Tiffany Merrit in the family's living room in Panama City, Fla. U.S. Army Spc. William Busbee committed suicide in March of 2012. Busbee is one of 177 Army suicides in 2012 -- more than the number of soldiers killed in combat for the year.

“No, I think all of the services have done a pretty good job of trying to get a message out. The Army ... they’ve done the 'shoulder-to-shoulder,' (approach, and have said) ‘no soldier stands alone.' That’s been some of their messaging, now going back a while,” Garrick said.

“The Secretary of Defense (Leon Panetta), this past year, issued a statement talking about how our service members are our most valuable resource and that we need to do everything we can to take care of our people. So we’re doing everything we can to prevent suicides in the military, recognizing that it’s a complex and urgent problem.”

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-suicides-outpaced-combat-deaths-in-2012?lite
 
Does anyone even have a theory as to why Army service these days is, apparently, so much more depressing than it used to be?
 
Does anyone even have a theory as to why Army service these days is, apparently, so much more depressing than it used to be?

If I had to guess it's a combination of really harsh rotations (that are winding down), in part caused by Clinton cuts in military size. Stricter dicipline on a number of things and I'm not sure it ever wasn't depressing it's just that with all the media we have access too we notice things a lot more than we used to.
 
Does anyone even have a theory as to why Army service these days is, apparently, so much more depressing than it used to be?

Yeah.

It's diifcult to get behind the current Commander and Chief and Afghanistan is pointless.
 
The enemy within: Soldier suicides outpaced combat deaths in 2012

By Bill Briggs, NBC News contributor

More soldiers took their own lives than died in combat during 2012, new Department of Defense figures show. The Army's suicide rate has climbed by 9 percent since the military branch launched its suicide-prevention campaign in 2009.

Through November, 177 active-duty soldiers had committed suicide compared to 165 during all of 2011 and 156 in 2010. In all of 2012, 176 soldiers were killed in action -- all while serving in Operation Enduring Freedom, according to DOD.

Army suicides have increased by at least 54 percent since 2007 when there were 115 — a number the Washington Post then called "an all-time record." An Army spokesman said Wednesday it is uncertain if 177 marks a new annual high (with December numbers still to come), or if suicides have ever outpaced combat deaths in a single year, because the Army has not always tracked suicides.

Some Army families who recently lost members to suicide criticize the branch for failing to aggressively shake a culture in which soldiers believe they'll be deemed weak and denied promotion if they seek mental health aid. They also blame Army leaders for focusing more heavily on weeding out emotionally troubled soldiers to artificially suppress the branch's suicide stats versus embracing and helping members who are exhibiting clear signs of trouble.

Furthermore, in September, two U.S. lawmakers pressured the Pentagon to immediately use unspent money specifically appropriated to the agency to help slow the suicides within the military. Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., and Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, also pushed for increased anti-suicide funding for the Department of Defense in 2013.

“The Pentagon hasn’t spent the money that it has for suicide prevention for this year — and that money wasn’t nearly enough money to reach all the soldiers who need help. Now we are hearing about bureaucratic technicalities at the Pentagon that are preventing them from acting. This is unconscionable,” Rep. McDermott said. “The Pentagon is funded to help soldiers and needs to do much more on the epidemic of suicides."

But the Department of Defense contends that anti-suicide programs installed throughout the armed services soon will curb military suicides — and that such initiatives already have helped douse mental-health stigmas.

"We have seen several programs that we are optimistic are going to start making a dent in this issue," said Jackie Garrick, acting director of the DOD suicide prevention office. "We’ve asked all of the services to use the same messaging, the same talking points. So the Army, included in that, is trying to adapt and promote those same messages because we realize that this is an across-the-board problem."

The Army could not provide a suicide-prevention officer to comment, but an Army spokeswoman did forward NBC News a link to the “Army Suicide Prevention Program.”

Within that initiative, soldiers are taught to “Ask, Care, and Escort” any Army buddy who mentions considering suicide, to usher them to behavioral-health provider, chaplain, or a primary-care provider, and to “never leave your friend alone." The U.S. military also installed a prevention “lifeline:” 1-800-273-TALK.

What's more, soldiers are assured that seeking mental-health counseling will not harm their chances at gaining a security clearance. And on that website, a videoshows Sgt. Maj. Raymond F. Chandler III, the Army's top non-commissioned officer, speaking to other NCOs: “Know your soldiers. Know the resources available to them when they are in crisis ... Encourage your soldiers to seek help ... Seeking help is a sign of courage.”

The anti-suicide strategy was rolled out in April 2009 by Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli.

In July 2010, the Army released a report that sought to explain its suicide epidemic. Some Army families were irked by one of the key findings: Loosened recruitment and retention standards — due to the furious pace of repeated deployments — had allowed more than 47,000 people to remain in the Army despite histories of substance abuse, misdemeanor crime or “serious misconduct.”

Chiarelli further frustrated many Army families who had lost members to suicide when, amid the release of that same report, he added: “I think it’s fair to say in some instances it would be a soldier that’s possibly married, couple of kids, lost his job, no health care insurance, possibly a single parent.” Those types of soldiers, he added, are “coming in the Army to start all over again, and we see this high rate of suicide.”

Two days before Charielli’s comments, 28-year-old Army soldier Brandon Barrett showed up at his parents' home in Tucson, Ariz. The family believed he was on leave following a brutal, year-long deployment in Afghanistan with the 5th Stryker Brigade during which he saw several buddies killed or wounded by bombs and did some killing himself.

During that visit, Barrett’s family thought his Army experience seemed to be helping him to mature, recalls his brother, Shane Barrett, a detective with the Tucson Police Department.

In August, Brandon Barrett left his parents’ home and drove — for unknown reasons — to Salt Lake City where he donned his combat fatigues, boots and helmet, grabbed his AR-15 rifle, went to a hotel and told an employee to call the police. As he waited for the officers, Barrett paced the hotel parking lot as if he was on patrol, a hotel video showed. A police officer arrived. Barrett shot him in the leg. The officer returned fire and killed Barrett with a bullet to the head. His family believes Barrett intended to commit “suicide by cop,” his brother acknowledged.

Brandon Barrett confided to a chaplain within his unit, the Barrett family learned since his death, revealing that his year of combat in Afghanistan had left him depressed and anxious.

“He’d been home for nearly a month,” Shane Barrett told NBC News. “We had no contact from anybody in the Army until my brother’s incident. And then, after the fact, it was: ‘Your brother was AWOL (absent without leave).’ Really? We didn’t know that.

“If a guy goes AWOL, the Army is supposed to notify the family immediately. We never received phone calls, letters. We were blindsided. At the police department where I work, they ran all kinds of record checks on him. But they found absolutely nothing (about an AWOL report).

“My mother has always believed he was declared AWOL after the fact just so the Army could get him off the rolls and not have his suicide count against the Army,” Shane Barrett said. “To just discard him, like he never existed, is just wrong. And there’s no paper trail, no nothing to back up the AWOL claim.”

The Barrett family later learned that Brandon had confided to a chaplain within his unit, revealing that his year of combat in Afghanistan had left him depressed and anxious. And possibly mulling suicide.

“From talking to a couple of other guys in his unit, he didn’t want to come forward (to seek mental-health help) because you’d be red-flagged. It would be your exit out of the Army,” Shane Barrett said. “The guys in the Army are just flat-out afraid to come forward.”

At the Department of Defense, anti-suicide chief Garrick was asked if the Army is indeed clinging to a culture of “suck it up" and handle your own problems,” as some Army families contend.

In an Oct. 10, 2012 photo, MaKayla Merritt holds her brother William Busbee's uniform with her mother Libby Busbee, right, and sister Tiffany Merrit in the family's living room in Panama City, Fla. U.S. Army Spc. William Busbee committed suicide in March of 2012. Busbee is one of 177 Army suicides in 2012 -- more than the number of soldiers killed in combat for the year.

“No, I think all of the services have done a pretty good job of trying to get a message out. The Army ... they’ve done the 'shoulder-to-shoulder,' (approach, and have said) ‘no soldier stands alone.' That’s been some of their messaging, now going back a while,” Garrick said.

“The Secretary of Defense (Leon Panetta), this past year, issued a statement talking about how our service members are our most valuable resource and that we need to do everything we can to take care of our people. So we’re doing everything we can to prevent suicides in the military, recognizing that it’s a complex and urgent problem.”

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-suicides-outpaced-combat-deaths-in-2012?lite

I read this article today and was horrified to find that what I suspected is true. I also wonder why there isn't more awareness of substance abuse and prescribed meds problems with people currently serving in combat. Nam was notorious for creating drug and psych problems; I can't believe that today’s soldier isn't equally fucked up.
 
If I had to guess it's a combination of really harsh rotations (that are winding down), in part caused by Clinton cuts in military size. Stricter dicipline on a number of things and I'm not sure it ever wasn't depressing it's just that with all the media we have access too we notice things a lot more than we used to.

Spend 8 mo home and 12-18 deployed over and over and over again...they are fucking worn out, divorced and estranged from their families man. You can only spend so much time in a 3rd word hell hole before coming back to American society and hearing about 1st world problems from everyone drives you fucking bonkers. TBH they would be better off if we left them there.

I read this article today and was horrified to find that what I suspected is true. I also wonder why there isn't more awareness of substance abuse and prescribed meds problems with people currently serving in combat. Nam was notorious for creating drug and psych problems; I can't believe that today’s soldier isn't equally fucked up.

Booze...they had a wicked problem when I retired in 08 and I'm willing to bet it isn't any better. The alcohol consumption in Infantry barracks would make the wildest frat house in the country look like a girl scout troop. Except there are no parties...they spend all their off time sitting in blacked out rooms ripping 30 packs and bottles of jack daily by themselves until you find one hanging in the shower by a guitar string/other thin wire or in a car with their brains all over the dash in some parking lot, every fucking time.. NCO's living off post usually GSW to the head..a lot of them take their old lady with them murder/suicide style, esp if she was a cheating on him..which 90% of them do. :cool:
 
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I read this article today and was horrified to find that what I suspected is true. I also wonder why there isn't more awareness of substance abuse and prescribed meds problems with people currently serving in combat. Nam was notorious for creating drug and psych problems; I can't believe that today’s soldier isn't equally fucked up.

There is awareness. They bring the hammer down pretty hard on underaged drinking which for my two cents probably isn't helping things. I forget the article but I imagine the situation for soldiers is similar to the one for Marines and that is that we are literally safer in Afghanistan than in the US. Taking away our cars and alcohol goes a long ways to keeping us alive, you couple that will us having less time away from each other to commit suicide and it keeps us alive.

Part of the problem and this goes for both active duty and retired or simply discharged people is that we have a volunteer military. So anything bad that happens because you joined the military is your own damn fault. It's no different from how we don't care that pro wrestlers and football players all die young, usually from brain injuries. The general consensus is we simply don't care. It's tragic but just look at the handling of the VA, nobody points to it and says "we can and should do better" they point to it and mention that it's sub-par and the worst thing we could do to the American public as a whole is submit them to it.

I'm a bit curious as to how these numbers hold up in comparison to society as a whole right now though. Not saying the numbers aren't terrible or that there hasn't been an increase I'm just curious if there has been an increase in society over all.
 
In deep respect for what you both said, neither of you are able to comprehend what I specifically mean in comparison to national awarnness since neither of you guys are Vietnam era people. Am I wrong?
 
In deep respect for what you both said, neither of you are able to comprehend what I specifically mean in comparison to national awarnness since neither of you guys are Vietnam era people. Am I wrong?

No you are not wrong...I haven't a clue as I'm only 29, my only perspective on the matter ranges from 02-08 and my hindsight view 3 1/2 years later. As far as national awareness goes I honestly don't think most give two shits, they just slap a yellow ribbon magnet on their bumper and call it a day. Which I don't bitch about....I did the job, they (the tax paying public) held up their end of the contract we both agreed to and compensated me accordingly, I'm owed not a fucking thing more and neither is any other vet. I actually find it rather nice that they take the 2 seconds and 3 bucks to give an extra shit beyond paying their taxes.
 
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In deep respect for what you both said, neither of you are able to comprehend what I specifically mean in comparison to national awarnness since neither of you guys are Vietnam era people. Am I wrong?

No you aren't wrong. I'm still a youngin and my experience is from the 01-05 period and then what I hear from guys who are still in. I've always assumed that the Nam era guys came out a lot worse than we did simply because that lot fought a real war and we're playing games away from home. I don't have access to their suicide numbers and even if I did I wouldn't trust them since I'm fairly certain the military was a lot better at keeping secrets back then than now.
 
Does anyone even have a theory as to why Army service these days is, apparently, so much more depressing than it used to be?

Political correctness, having to serve with gays, bans on alcohol, and any other number of factors.
 
Does anyone even have a theory as to why Army service these days is, apparently, so much more depressing than it used to be?

The shift from a combat to civilian environment is much more rapid, allowing no time for "de-stressing". There is some anecdotal evidence that soldiers of the Parachute Regiment who returned from the Falklands War by air have a higher level of PTSD and suicide than the Royal Marines who returned by sea. The suggestion is that the long sea voyage allowed the Booties to work it out of their system.

I don't think there has been a definitive study, and I doubt if there ever will be, but anecdotal evidence in simply evidence an academic hasn't validated.

N.B. I'm not saying this is the sole reason. Just a more recent phenomenon due to rapid mass transport.
 
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177 out of nearly 3,000,000 active and reservists.

What's that rate compared to the general population of the US?



The article is also a bit misleading because the combat deaths are going down. One would assume suicides also outstripped combat deaths in the 80s when America wasn't actively at war with anyone.
 
That's one way to get out of having to shower with homosexuals.

From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
I have fought my country's battles
I have faced every enemy

I ain't scared of no Iraqi missiles
I ain't scared of no Russian tanks
If I'm captured and tortured all they'll get
Is my serial number name and rank

You know I'd storm Baghdad to kick Saddam's butt
Swim to Havana bring home Castro's beard
For my buddies throw my body on a live grenade
I guess I just don't know the meaning of fear

But please
Please
Please please please please please
Don't make me shower with a fairy
Not a fairy--fairies scare me
Cause a fairy might look at my weewee
My weewee--it's so teeny

-- Fred Small
 
From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
I have fought my country's battles
I have faced every enemy

I ain't scared of no Iraqi missiles
I ain't scared of no Russian tanks
If I'm captured and tortured all they'll get
Is my serial number name and rank

You know I'd storm Baghdad to kick Saddam's butt
Swim to Havana bring home Castro's beard
For my buddies throw my body on a live grenade
I guess I just don't know the meaning of fear

But please
Please
Please please please please please
Don't make me shower with a fairy
Not a fairy--fairies scare me
Cause a fairy might look at my weewee
My weewee--it's so teeny

-- Fred Small

That's funny, yet true. I love how these "big brave manly" Marines hate the idea of serving with openly gay brothers, yet...

THERE ARE GAY SERVICE MEN ALREADY WITH THEM!

Dumb fucks!!!
 
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