Cultivateddesires
Weaver of dreams
- Joined
- Aug 4, 2024
- Posts
- 226
Fascinating (albeit sad) documentary, especially as I am the father of two teenage boys.
Easy to see the conflict within what these Tate-ian Influencers are selling.
Lonely boys with no friends because they don’t talk deep things, espousing the virtue of manning (& clamming) up and not sharing feelings.
Simultaneously endlessly discussing the virtues of (and how to achieve) one’s own harem of multiple women, alongside the virtue of 100-day “semen retention programmes”.
A 16 year old who lost all his friends at school because of (largely uninformed) opinions he posted about women, breaking down in tears when he meets his online friends IRL.
Same boy paying an influencer to coach him on how to coach others to be influencers.
The structural impossibility of an economic ecosystem where you get rich by selling ways to get rich. Basically a mass-hallucinated ponzi scheme.
The inherent unfairness with a promiscuous man slagging off promiscuous women.
Men who want lots of women but also want their woman to be loving and caring towards them.
And yet.
Nothing wrong with discipline and hard work.
Nothing wrong with exercise for health.
Nothing wrong with hopes and dreams and aspirations.
Underneath it all clearly there is a need being met. What does it mean to be a man now? What did it ever? If my sons asked me, I would not have an adequate answer.
No doubt much more can be said and discussed.
Easy to see the conflict within what these Tate-ian Influencers are selling.
Lonely boys with no friends because they don’t talk deep things, espousing the virtue of manning (& clamming) up and not sharing feelings.
Simultaneously endlessly discussing the virtues of (and how to achieve) one’s own harem of multiple women, alongside the virtue of 100-day “semen retention programmes”.
A 16 year old who lost all his friends at school because of (largely uninformed) opinions he posted about women, breaking down in tears when he meets his online friends IRL.
Same boy paying an influencer to coach him on how to coach others to be influencers.
The structural impossibility of an economic ecosystem where you get rich by selling ways to get rich. Basically a mass-hallucinated ponzi scheme.
The inherent unfairness with a promiscuous man slagging off promiscuous women.
Men who want lots of women but also want their woman to be loving and caring towards them.
And yet.
Nothing wrong with discipline and hard work.
Nothing wrong with exercise for health.
Nothing wrong with hopes and dreams and aspirations.
Underneath it all clearly there is a need being met. What does it mean to be a man now? What did it ever? If my sons asked me, I would not have an adequate answer.
No doubt much more can be said and discussed.
