Teen Titans: Fast Forward (OOC)

[The Jeffinator]

How far into the future were we again?

Because I might go with that 'cryogenic stasis' idea, so I'm guessing we can change the characters a bit. Come up with our own 'whats happened since the team was sent forward in time' story? Make them our own a bit more.

Hell, I'm allowing Ben Tennyson in a Titans story -- anything's possible, lol. So yeah, you can do pretty much whatever revisions with your characters as you want.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Oh, and we're 71 years in the future, to be exact. Maybe Argent got sucked in to the timewarp first and wasn't sent as far as the others? Like, maybe she ended up like 40 years in the future or something and then ended up in cryo for 31 more years. Just an idea. Another idea is that she is a clone of the original Argent.

Maybe back in the past, Dr. Light had kidnapped Argent and put her into her stasis and hid her, and that's why the Titans attacked his lab? With them all sent to the future, no one knew about Argent and so she remained frozen underground for decades. Then, when the Titans arrive, they could like stumble upon her and unfreeze her.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Well my original plan was to have had Ben had been in on it since day one. The Plumbers being high ranking officers both in all American governments but also extra-terrestrial Luthor would have quickly done a one, two step to eliminate the unit. Except Ben would be conservatively 80 years old in this scenario.

So I retooled it and went with Ben IV and had it where his family knew but given Darkseid, Vilgax etc figured as long as Alex didn't didn't do anything REALLY fucked up that their job was policing alien activity. (Basically my basic explanation for why MIB didn't get into WW2, and the "official" reason why the JLA didn't wrap up WW2 in all of fifteen minutes. Human conflicts are for humans to solve.) Then his parents were killed in the "attack" on Congress and he decided fuck this whole staying out. But then he'd be at minimum 35 (at least if you follow the logic that the Omnitrix or the hacked clone of it is passed down on the 10th birthday which is only supported by a clearly non-cannon future episode) So still too old.

So I thought maybe Ben upon seeing things getting worse without the Titans would go searching for them find Light's Lab and get himself star flung. But the war starts in 2050 and. . .yeah it has nothing to do with their absense so aside from perhaps having Paradox flat out tell Ben the world is gonna suck go find the goddamn Titans. . .and him attempting to find them and getting flung forward but not quite far enough for whatever reason.

Okay that last one doesn't seem to suck terribly but I had to write out my bad ideas and why they were bad to get to it.

Also I'll break the Omnitrix somewhat, at least in the short term. There is definitely an unspoken rule that teams don't have multiples of the same powers and technically once the watch sees Starfire and Hawk Boy it aught scan them, add them and poof. Though much like everything else he could just be terribly clumsy with the powers he has no idea how to function.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Well my original plan was to have had Ben had been in on it since day one. The Plumbers being high ranking officers both in all American governments but also extra-terrestrial Luthor would have quickly done a one, two step to eliminate the unit. Except Ben would be conservatively 80 years old in this scenario.

So I retooled it and went with Ben IV and had it where his family knew but given Darkseid, Vilgax etc figured as long as Alex didn't didn't do anything REALLY fucked up that their job was policing alien activity. (Basically my basic explanation for why MIB didn't get into WW2, and the "official" reason why the JLA didn't wrap up WW2 in all of fifteen minutes. Human conflicts are for humans to solve.) Then his parents were killed in the "attack" on Congress and he decided fuck this whole staying out. But then he'd be at minimum 35 (at least if you follow the logic that the Omnitrix or the hacked clone of it is passed down on the 10th birthday which is only supported by a clearly non-cannon future episode) So still too old.

So I thought maybe Ben upon seeing things getting worse without the Titans would go searching for them find Light's Lab and get himself star flung. But the war starts in 2050 and. . .yeah it has nothing to do with their absense so aside from perhaps having Paradox flat out tell Ben the world is gonna suck go find the goddamn Titans. . .and him attempting to find them and getting flung forward but not quite far enough for whatever reason.

Okay that last one doesn't seem to suck terribly but I had to write out my bad ideas and why they were bad to get to it.

Also I'll break the Omnitrix somewhat, at least in the short term. There is definitely an unspoken rule that teams don't have multiples of the same powers and technically once the watch sees Starfire and Hawk Boy it aught scan them, add them and poof. Though much like everything else he could just be terribly clumsy with the powers he has no idea how to function.

Ah, I see. One option for the watch thing is you could say it can only hold ten types of DNA at once, and the scanning feature could be a controllable function. Like, it could work as a tricorder or something and scan any life form, but in order to actually take that form, he needs to store a blood sample in one of ten little slots or something. That way, if he wants to add a new form, he has to discard an old one. The Omnitrix could use a mixture of cell cloning and molecular manipulation to add more mass to Ben and then temporarily realign his molecules to mimick the alien DNA sample he has selected. Then, when he turns back, his molecules are realigned and the excess mass breaks down and rapidly dissolves.

As for finding a way to make him work, I did have one idea. What if Ben is a member of the Titans in the past and gets sent with them to the future, and when they get there, they meet up with an older Gwen who is now in charge of the Plumbers and explains everything that happened to them? Normally, Gwen would be close to 90, but maybe her magic makes her age slow, or, like, she somehow gained immortality. Just an idea.

Another option is to say Max was a young hero back in the day, trying to join the Titans, but they vanish, and 71 years later, his grandson Ben meets them. If we say Max is like 14 in 2011, he'd be around 85 now. Maybe he's in excellent health and is in charge of the Plumbers. He could be the one to explain the situation when Ben brings the Titans back home with him.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Oh, and there would really be no point in trying to hunt down the Titans to save the future, because until they return home with that knowledge of what Lex will do, no one has any way of knowing they are necessary. So, yeah, if the Titans had never been flung forward they would have eventually died or been outlawed or something. But if they can ever find a way back home, they can warn the JLA of what is going to happen and together they can stop it.

But like I said, the Luthor timeline was just one idea. If it doesn't work, I can think of others. Like, if Kitty is cool with it, we could say this dark future is due to Trigon taking over. Maybe Raven has a brother who helped resurrect their father.

There's always the good old alien invasion idea, too. Maybe Blackfire conquered Earth. Or if we want to tie in the Titans directly, maybe during the fight in Light's lab, he unveils a clone of Conner named Superboy-Prime. Prime is the only one not thrown to the future, and with no master to control him, he evolves his own thought processes and becomes a chaotic murderer. Maybe he develops some kind of suit or item that absorbs Kryptonite radiation, making him virtually unstoppable. 71 years later, the world is much like the future world of Dragonball Z after the Androids were activated, lol. Just another idea.

 

[Sean Renaud]

No no, you mis understood or I poorly phrased. Using Paradox (he's unstuck in time) basically he knows why things turn out the way they do even if it doesn't make sense. So remember that cray crap show that everybody but me thought was the best thing sliced bread. Heroes? Basically Paradox comes up to to Ben one day and tells him. Save the Titans. Save the World. Then he jumps off to whereever that fucker goes when he's not being Deux ex Machina. So Ben looks farther into the dissapearance and gets flung say 60 years forward cus he somehow activates the same thing that happened to them but it's weaker or unstable or (we don't really need to explain why an accident didn't duplicate itself exactly the second time.)

You're idea of Max doesn't suck though.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Ooooh. Idea... What if Superboy-Prime reversed his cells to become stronger from Kryptonite radiation, and to give him green energy abilities. Maybe it also gives him the ability to transform, becoming a sort of mix between Hulk and Doomsay. Oooh. Sounds awesome. Prime may be crazy, but Light designed him to rapidly evolve and adapt, and so he has grown into a supergenius and has thus created enhancements to his power. He could be the "Doomsday" of this AU, being the one to finally kill Superman.

Though, not sure how the Titans could defeat him in the future. Maybe Max Tennyson and Terry McGinnis are working with an underground resistance to try and develop a way to stop him. Maybe they are trying to re-establish a portal to the Phantom Zone.

Also, if we did this angle, we could probably do less than 71 years. Wouldn't take that long for Prime to devistate the planet, lol. Whatcha guys think?

 

[The Jeffinator]

No no, you mis understood or I poorly phrased. Using Paradox (he's unstuck in time) basically he knows why things turn out the way they do even if it doesn't make sense. So remember that cray crap show that everybody but me thought was the best thing sliced bread. Heroes? Basically Paradox comes up to to Ben one day and tells him. Save the Titans. Save the World. Then he jumps off to whereever that fucker goes when he's not being Deux ex Machina. So Ben looks farther into the dissapearance and gets flung say 60 years forward cus he somehow activates the same thing that happened to them but it's weaker or unstable or (we don't really need to explain why an accident didn't duplicate itself exactly the second time.)

You're idea of Max doesn't suck though.

Ah, yeah. But then why didn't Paradox just warn the Titans and the JLA that Lex was gonna take over? LOL.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why didn't Hiro tell Claire not to attend the dance? Or tell Nathan to kill Sylar. There were at least a dozen better ways than saying "save the cheer leader save the world" that make perfect sense unless you go with the idea that time travelers (or at least Paradox) knows how things are supposed to hapen and warning the Titans would cause some other problem. That's usually how it works that he's seen all the possible ways this can play out. So it's like this (from his POV)

Warn the Titans.--->Dr. Light accidently summons Darkseid who conquers the planet.
Give Batman the heads up.-----> Batman doesn't go on key mission earth is destroyed.

So basically this is the only play that doesn't make shit worse. For no reason we ever need to be privy too. Or he can explain it up front. Hey it has to be this way, I've tried it every other way I (or you, I consulted you once) could think of and the same with Batman and this is the only play with a favorably outcome.

 

[The Jeffinator]

It's just odd that it would be predestined for one timeline to come to pass and then for it to be overwritten. I don't usually like predestined stuff because it's like saying what the characters do doesn't matter if Paradox has set them on the right course. I like the thought that they could fail. Or at least, they believe so.

It would be better if Paradox led Ben there more subtly. But then how does Ben help get the Titans back with the future knowledge? See, what might be better is something like this:

Paradox is not some omnipresent being, but rather, a psychic like Nostradamus, but with more control over his visions. When the Titans are thrown into the future, he suddenly senses a disturbance in the time stream, and sees a new future that was not meant to pass (if we go with the Superboy-Prime thing). He could tell Ben, or hint at, going to Light's lab and then he gets sent to the future. But what's the point of sending Ben there too? How does Ben's presence somehow make the Titans able to return home?

 

[The Jeffinator]

Or another option is to say the time warp initiated from the future. Maybe in the future, a clone of Conner -- the Hulk/Doomsday/Superboy-Prime -- goes on a murderous rampage and creates a planet-wide wasteland. Then, when someone opens a time warp to go back to the past and warn the JLA, the Titans accidentally get sucked in.

But then that would create a paradox, because if the Titans suddenly vanish from the past, the future would change, unless they are meant to return to the past, but then that would mean the existence of this future means they failed to warn the JLA.

Gah. My head hurts, lol.

 

[knight713]

Ooooh. Idea... What if Superboy-Prime reversed his cells to become stronger from Kryptonite radiation, and to give him green energy abilities. Maybe it also gives him the ability to transform, becoming a sort of mix between Hulk and Doomsay. Oooh. Sounds awesome. Prime may be crazy, but Light designed him to rapidly evolve and adapt, and so he has grown into a supergenius and has thus created enhancements to his power. He could be the "Doomsday" of this AU, being the one to finally kill Superman.

Though, not sure how the Titans could defeat him in the future. Maybe Max Tennyson and Terry McGinnis are working with an underground resistance to try and develop a way to stop him. Maybe they are trying to re-establish a portal to the Phantom Zone.

Also, if we did this angle, we could probably do less than 71 years. Wouldn't take that long for Prime to devistate the planet, lol. Whatcha guys think?

it sounds like a good idea

depends on how far in the future they go will anyone hate them since they didn't save the world

 

[Sean Renaud]

Ooooh. Idea... What if Superboy-Prime reversed his cells to become stronger from Kryptonite radiation, and to give him green energy abilities. Maybe it also gives him the ability to transform, becoming a sort of mix between Hulk and Doomsay. Oooh. Sounds awesome. Prime may be crazy, but Light designed him to rapidly evolve and adapt, and so he has grown into a supergenius and has thus created enhancements to his power. He could be the "Doomsday" of this AU, being the one to finally kill Superman.

Though, not sure how the Titans could defeat him in the future. Maybe Max Tennyson and Terry McGinnis are working with an underground resistance to try and develop a way to stop him. Maybe they are trying to re-establish a portal to the Phantom Zone.

Also, if we did this angle, we could probably do less than 71 years. Wouldn't take that long for Prime to devistate the planet, lol. Whatcha guys think?

That's the beauty of it, they don't have to defeat him in the future. We have to get to the time machine, or find the time spot where we can do it. Maybe it's like Raven being the Key. There is a certain time and place where she can do it we have to get to that location, and maintain it long enough for the ritual to take effect, then our job is to PREVENT that from hapenning.

 

[fr33ks33k]

I've been trying to keep up with all this storyline talk, but I must admit I feel like I'm drowning in the massiveness of it.

 

[princesssexci]

I've been trying to keep up with all this storyline talk, but I must admit I feel like I'm drowning in the massiveness of it.

Don't feel alone I stopped paying attention after I posted my bio.

 

[The Jeffinator]

That's the beauty of it, they don't have to defeat him in the future. We have to get to the time machine, or find the time spot where we can do it. Maybe it's like Raven being the Key. There is a certain time and place where she can do it we have to get to that location, and maintain it long enough for the ritual to take effect, then our job is to PREVENT that from hapenning.

Yeah, but if he's coming at you, you gotta be able to defeat him, or at least hold him off long enough to make the time jump. As for making it back, maybe they somehow discover a way to detect the jump scar in the fabric of spacetime where they first arrived. Or maybe they discover that the time warp is like a rubberband connected to the structure of Light's lab. Maybe they speculate that if they destroy the lab, the rubberband will snap back to the past, taking them with it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Don't drown. We're batting about details this is ALL you need to know.

Lex Luthor took over the world in 2054 or there abouts. Most of the world is a wasteland there are small pockets of Luthor controlled Utopia but even those places are grossly unfair with super rich and the basically slaves that keep things going.

The Titans appear in the middle of one of the wastelands having time traveled from present day. the rest is mostly details that you can ignore if you like.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Sorry guys, Sean and I are just discussing different story options. Didn't mean to confuse you.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Well, I have to work tonight, so sleepy time for me. Just post whatever for your Ben Tennyson char and we'll make it work.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yeah, but if he's coming at you, you gotta be able to defeat him, or at least hold him off long enough to make the time jump. As for making it back, maybe they somehow discover a way to detect the jump scar in the fabric of spacetime where they first arrived. Or maybe they discover that the time warp is like a rubberband connected to the structure of Light's lab. Maybe they speculate that if they destroy the lab, the rubberband will snap back to the past, taking them with it.

You gotta hold him off. Batman has held off Superman multiple times there is a world of difference between. We gotta take him down and guys I need five minutes! I think a halfway decent Titans team could hold back anything shy of Apocalypse for five minutes. I suppose Speedy, Robin, and Argent might have a hard time with those five minutes but Starfire is pretty powerful.

Hell all things known I'd HATE to be Kryptonian instead of Tamarian or Amazon. I'll trade the difference in strength for not having to avoid green rocks.

Anyway we don't need to know the end before we get there. You have this habit (and those of us you like you have a habit of indulging you) of over thinking things.

 

[DormantEvil]

If nobody objects, I'll take Argent and post my little back story incorporating a lot of little points that have been recommended.


I'll go with:

Argent for some reason was flung 40 years into the future, not the full 71 that you guys were.

She spends several years trying to track down how to send herself back, feeling alone and having to put up with the world around her.

Perhaps Lex catches her meddling where she isn't meant to be and just after she finds out some useful scrap of information, freezes her.

The time when you guys are sent forward to (71 years) is how it has been described so far.

Lex unfroze Argent a couple of years before you guys arrive, and tried to wipe her memory. But it's only partially suppressed, and she gets flashes of information. Some of these flashes break her out of serving Lex, because she remembers the Titans, and her old life, and that he was the one to freeze her.

She remembers the scrap of information but doesn't know what it means, until you guys meet up. In the mean time she has been working with the resistance, after ruining one of Lex's labs or something. Escaping after an attack.

She could be sent out to make contact with you all, after the resistance hears of Titan sightings.


Anything in that description that will mess your own stuff up?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Name: Ben Tennyson
Age:19
Powers: Shape Shifting into ten unique aliens.
History: Ben was waiting for the day he'd be able to apply for the Titans when they vanished with no story and no trace. Many of the heroes of the world himself included spent years searching but with no avail before they all were forced to return to their regular lives.

Three years passed and Ben had all but forgotten the incendent when he was awoke in a cold sweat. It was a simple vision of himself standing amongst the Teen Titans and beside his Plumber's Badge was a Titan's. With no other information Ben set about finding the Titans eventually leading him to Dr. Light's Lab. The equipment was mangled but time travel wasn't entirely unknown to the plumbers and Ben was beginning to repair the tech when a freak surge flung him years into the future.

The future he landed in was bleak, a waste land flooded with aliens, monsters and grizzled survivors. Years in the near abandoned world was enough for Ben to peice together the history but there was nothing to be done to return the world to the way that it was. Luthor's control was complete. Ben couldn't even find away to return to his own time where he could have lived out his life never knowing the nightmare that the world would become..

 

[The Jeffinator]

Awesome chars, guys. No problems . Sean, I think the vision thing will work perfectly. Much more subtle than Paradox showing up and telling him directly . Also, how old is Ben? If he was in the past for three years after the Titans vanished, and then showed up in the future ten years before they arrive, that means he'd be 13 years older. If he was barely old enough to join the Titans in the beginning (I'm assuming around 12), that would make him 25 right now. Is that right? Just curious .

Also, as for the over-thinking stuff, yeah, you're right. We'll just go with what we've established with the Lex future. Maybe I could still incorporate my Superboy-Prime idea as a clone created by Lex. But we'll worry about that later on.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I editted the post to keep him 19 like I want him. It seems wrong to not be a teen and be with the Teen Titans. Sides in reality Ben's way to cocky to join a group, he tolerates his side kicks because they've ocasionally proven beneficial but really Ben's a cocky jerk. i like him but the reality is the only reason he'd join the Justice LEague is because every little boy grows up looking up to Superman once the awe broke by working along side him he'd likely go back to being solo. Hey nobody ever accused Ben of an abundance of brains.

 

[The Jeffinator]

Haha, true. Like the new bio, btw.