Technical Question; ???? re pasting from .doc

[Pure]

Technical matter:
I posted(pasted) a story from a .doc file, in the postings of a forum. Word 2000. (Smart Quotes on.) Windows XP.

It looks fine to me; see the last quote below;

My friend says it looks like (first quote below) to him.

What's going on, and will other readers (which ones?) have a problem. Are there different setting for *Reading* literotica postings?


{how it looks to him}
â?oHey, whereâ?Td yâ?Tall go?â?

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{how it looks to me, and in the original .doc file}

“Hey, where’d y’all go?”

 

[cantdog]

While different, both are laced with gibberish characters, Pure.

I noticed I can paste in "international" characters-- c-cedilla, a-umlaut, n-tilde, that kind of thing-- but "smart quotes" and things like Greek letters or Cyrillic ones don't come through correctly.

Your two examples, though, both fail, as my machine and Firefox read them.

 

[cantdog]

I tried Netscape, but although the apparent font is different from Firefox, the readability of the two samples is the same. Both bad, although slightly differently.

Internet explorer, ditto, ditto.

cantdog

 

[Alex De Kok]

Turn 'Smart Quotes' off - and leave them off. They cause nothing but bother in a cut-and-paste. For minimum interference, save as plain .txt and cut-and-paste from that.

Alex

 

[impressive]

Turn 'Smart Quotes' off - and leave them off. They cause nothing but bother in a cut-and-paste.

What IS 'Smart Quotes' anyway? (I hate Word! WordPerfect for me.)

I've always done a "Save As" to RTF with my completed work (regardless of software used) before copying/pasting. It seems to alleviate most formatting issues.

 

[cantdog]

You have Smart Quotes in WordPerfect, as well. Look under QuickCorrect. Choosing the QuickCorrect item in the menu gives you a dialog box which has an option to check, one each for "smart" single quotes and "smart doble ones.

The plain, dumb quotes are two verticals, essentially (that's the double ones, of course) but with the feature turned on, the program uses curly quotes. The tails are automatically turned inward toward the quoted words. It seems to judge by position.

It does look great in printed matter. But the characters used are coded in a way that other programs do not code them, so there really is no telling what you'll get in a cut-and-paste.

In the FAQ for this site, they tell you they will reject if the characters are embedded, so your submissions must not use them. You don't want them anyway, since they actually show up as o's with a slash through them or lowercase sigmas or phis or something, if you get me.

cantdog

 

[impressive]

You don't want them anyway, since they actually show up as o's with a slash through them or lowercase sigmas or phis or something, if you get me.

cantdog

I get you. Thanks for the info.

 

[Pure]

OK, I understand somewhat.

However, once I receive a doc with smart quotes, how to I eliminate them. I've tried everything, even running through Notepad/rtf (paste into Notepad, create rtf file, then paste back to Word), and they seem to survive.

 

[cantdog]

de nada

I use WordPerfect at work, and once upon a time I thought WP 5.1 was the spiffiest damn program there ever was. It was sort of an ultimate text-based editor/word processor. Handled any printer, did all kinds of page formatting, columns, text boxes, labels, and was capable of typing in Greek and Cyrillic or turned sideways or any way at all. It was not graphical, though, so you didn't see what the end product looked like. It was cool. Very very fast, compared to the graphical word processors which followed it.

cantdog, reminiscing

reminiscing about the lovely F4 cut-and-paste, so elegant! The color codes for italics and bold! The huge brackets labeled "Fig. 1" which were actually scalable illos you'd put in.

Fast, dude. CPUs had to get two generations better and onboard memory had to be cubed before you got the job done as fast as you did with 5.1.

 

[Pure]

Thanks for the help, all of you. One last question.

All of these were created after 'find and replace' of quotes, with straight quotes. All smart quotes turned off.

Do any of them read correctly.? Which


"Hey, where'd y'all go?" txt
"Hey, where'd y'all go?" rtf
"Hey, where'd y'all go?" doc

 

[impressive]

Thanks for the help, all of you. One last question.

All of these were created after 'find and replace' of quotes, with straight quotes. All smart quotes turned off.

Do any of them read correctly.? Which


"Hey, where'd y'all go?" txt
"Hey, where'd y'all go?" rtf
"Hey, where'd y'all go?" doc

All 3 look fine to me, Pure.

 

[Pure]

It seems there is a problem with tipped apostrophes, as well, so all those have been straightened.

Thanks all.

 

[R. Richard]

OK, I understand somewhat.

However, once I receive a doc with smart quotes, how to I eliminate them. I've tried everything, even running through Notepad/rtf (paste into Notepad, create rtf file, then paste back to Word), and they seem to survive.

Word (and for that matter WordPerfect) allows the saving of documents in any number of format, including plain text (.TXT). The fancy formatting will be lost and only text will be saved. However, some of the fancy characters may be saved as extended ASCII, including foreign charcaters Yen signs, etc.

 

[cantdog]

All three look ducky, but the Smart Quotes are gone, clearly. Both kinds, apostrophes and doubles.

I have pasted from *.rtf as a lazy man's way of getting tildes, cedillas, and all that jive into both the boards here and the submissions boxes.

Check them, though. Trust, yet verify.