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He loves to play the semantic game. He'll put a word in a sentence that changes the complexion of the argument or completely steers away from the spirit of the conversation.

Some comments are so broad that it would take 10 pages to answer correctly. Some such comments are Trump is a rapist, Trump a racist, Trump is a felon, all trigger bombs dropped from 40,000 feet... Not worth responding to. This place is a cesspool filled with posters trying to out clever the next poster.

I don't put anyone on IGGY I just ignore most conversations that start with or emphasize Orange man bad.
Untrue. You frequently are in those threads and defending Trump, er, Orange man bad!

Never seen you use ten pages to 'answer correctly' in defense of the felon, er, Orange man bad! Care to cite one thread that you did?
 
Come back when you have some actual evidence of that, as opposed to the latest Fox News talking points. (And remember, literally every known case of voter fraud in the 2020 election was committed by Trump-supporters.)
Read up on the Pennsylvania incident where a judge overruled Penn voting laws and overruled state legislators.

Many cases were dismissed not based on evidence but on standing and procedure. Then the media sided with the Biden camp. I don't believe there existed one judge who proceeded with evidentiary hearings based on factual evidence.
If I want to know why POC are voting the way they are, I'm not going to go to a white right-winger, thank you very much.
Classic deflection!
He took out a full-page ad calling for them to be put to death before they were convicted, and he has never apologized. And just about everything Trump ever says or does is "an emotional response". That doesn't mean it's not racist.
The crime was horrendous, it was an emotional response. His one page add was more about violent crime not the color of anyone’s skin. But you like to inject race into everything.

Trump initiatives to help black citizens.

* The First step act!
* Reduced sentences for black Americans
* Ready to Work act to aid black convicts to gain meaningful employment
* 1.4 million black Americans have found jobs during Trump’s first term
* Black poverty reached historic lows during Trump’s first ter.
* Trump established a billion dollar fund to aid minorities to establish small businesses

You’re the racist!

You know damn well why it's racist that the first Black president had to put up with years of people claiming baselessly that he wasn't born in the United States when there was absolutely no evidence to that end.
It wasn’t baseless at the time. Trump has since reversed his statement. Politics is a blood sport. It wasn’t a racist rant as much as it was a political rant. You people call Trump a fascist, Hitler, a racist a Nazis so cry me a river!
Native-born US citizens have a higher rate of violent crime than immigrants, legal or not. And he was playing directly to the ugliest of stereotypes about POC, even if he wasn't fully aware of it. (He's so stupid he probably wasn't. But you probably are, and are simply choosing to ignore it.)
Shouldn’t be any, most shouldn’t be here in the first place.

How would you know, leftist politicians and legacy media don’t give migrant crimes much coverage, many times don’t cover it at all. Democrats protect them.

I remember Biden excoriating border patrol for whipping migrants at the border, a big lie. It was an obvious lie but neither Biden nor his administration apologized for such a horrendous lie, but that’s what democrats do. migrants were breaking our laws by the thousands. Hundreds of law enforcement are putting their lives on the line.. The left is vilifying ICE and Border patrol under Trump but gave Biden and Obama a pass. I’m not sure what the numbers are today but thousands of migrant criminals are being removed from our streets and Democrats are pissed. Democrats are more concerned about criminal illegals than their own constituents.
Nope. He said it.

Not that simple. He first registered as a Republican in 1987, then re-registered several times (including, yes, as a Democrat in the early 2000s). But that's neither here nor there with respect to his use of that word, which was indisputably racist regardless of which party he belonged to at the time.
Who cares what party. I’m not disputing the use of the word. His actions speak volumes.
Of course it's racist. It's rooted in the idea that Haitians are subhuman because of the color of their skin. Can't get any more racist than that.
Trump says stupid shit and so doesn’t every president in history.
Wrong.

Inflation was lower there than in most other countries.
We as a nation compare outcomes against our own accomplishments not other countries.
Literally 99% of rapists are never convicted. That doesn't mean they're not rapists.
Using that analogy there’s enough compelling circumstantial evidence that the Biden family is as corrupt as the day is long but because he’s connected no charges. Failure to impanel a grand jury doesn’t mean he’s not guilty, it’s because he’s connected and holds all the cards. He and Hillary both violated criminal statutes on several occasions but nothing. But Trump, a different story. 34 ridiculous felony convictions for bookkeeping errors, misdemeanors that outran the statute of limitations.
If you're thinking of the Democratic politicians I think you are, most of the incidents you refer to involved consenting adults, or probably didn't happen, or both.
It’s a moral issue.
You have no reason to think she was 'delusional', beyond desperately wanting to believe Trump didn't attack her.
Democrats have stooped to this tactic against Kavanaugh, that’s what you do. Democrats have no ethical standards that they won’t trample on to stay in power.
 
Trump initiatives to help black citizens.

* The First step act!
* Reduced sentences for black Americans
* Ready to Work act to aid black convicts to gain meaningful employment
* 1.4 million black Americans have found jobs during Trump’s first term
* Black poverty reached historic lows during Trump’s first ter.
* Trump established a billion dollar fund to aid minorities to establish small businesses

You’re the racist!
Why would sentences be reduced for a certain race? Is that the new DEI?

Shouldn't sentences be filled out based on merit?
 
Why would sentences be reduced for a certain race? Is that the new DEI?

Shouldn't sentences be filled out based on merit?
Pushed by bipartisan advocacy groups; so I’ll take the lazy explanation;

“Several reasons are attributed to Donald Trump's involvement in criminal justice reform, which led to reduced sentences for a number of federal prisoners, many of whom were African American:
  • The First Step Act: Trump signed this bipartisan bill into law in 2018. It aimed to address issues of mass incarceration at the federal level and retroactively apply the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, which reduced the disparity between crack and powder cocaine sentences. These disparities had disproportionately impacted African Americans.
  • Advocacy Efforts: The First Step Act resulted from years of advocacy from various groups and individuals, including those within and outside of the White House.
  • Focus on Rehabilitation and Reducing Recidivism: The First Step Act aimed to reduce recidivism through expanded opportunities for rehabilitation programs, education, and incentives like earned time credits for good behavior and participation.
  • Compassionate Release and Elder Home Confinement: The First Step Act made it easier for prisoners to petition for compassionate release due to extraordinary circumstances and expanded eligibility for the elderly home confinement program.
  • Political Messaging: Trump and his administration touted the First Step Act as evidence of his commitment to the Black community, with claims that it had delivered for African Americans”
 
Pushed by bipartisan advocacy groups; so I’ll take the lazy explanation;

“Several reasons are attributed to Donald Trump's involvement in criminal justice reform, which led to reduced sentences for a number of federal prisoners, many of whom were African American:
  • The First Step Act: Trump signed this bipartisan bill into law in 2018. It aimed to address issues of mass incarceration at the federal level and retroactively apply the Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, which reduced the disparity between crack and powder cocaine sentences. These disparities had disproportionately impacted African Americans.
  • Advocacy Efforts: The First Step Act resulted from years of advocacy from various groups and individuals, including those within and outside of the White House.
  • Focus on Rehabilitation and Reducing Recidivism: The First Step Act aimed to reduce recidivism through expanded opportunities for rehabilitation programs, education, and incentives like earned time credits for good behavior and participation.
  • Compassionate Release and Elder Home Confinement: The First Step Act made it easier for prisoners to petition for compassionate release due to extraordinary circumstances and expanded eligibility for the elderly home confinement program.
  • Political Messaging: Trump and his administration touted the First Step Act as evidence of his commitment to the Black community, with claims that it had delivered for African Americans”
ChtGPT didn't answer my question.

Will you?

Why would sentences be reduced for a certain race? Is that the new DEI?

Shouldn't sentences be filled out based on merit?
 
ChtGPT didn't answer my question.

Will you?

Why would sentences be reduced for a certain race? Is that the new DEI?

Shouldn't sentences be filled out based on merit?
It's a possibility they were overcharged for possession and non-violent crimes.
ChtGPT didn't answer my question.

Will you?

Why would sentences be reduced for a certain race? Is that the new DEI?

Shouldn't sentences be filled out based on merit?
 
ChtGPT didn't answer my question.

Will you?

Why would sentences be reduced for a certain race? Is that the new DEI?

Shouldn't sentences be filled out based on merit?
Whether law enforcement was over aggressive against the black community or the courts being strict with sentencing guidelines isn't my issue. Perhaps start a thread of your own. My argument was with YB and his accusations toward Trump being a racist.
 
Whether law enforcement was over aggressive against the black community or the courts being strict with sentencing guidelines isn't my issue. Perhaps start a thread of your own. My argument was with YB and his accusations toward Trump being a racist.
You said that the Trump administration is changing things based on race.

Is that racist? Racially profiling?

Sorry you don't like the question
 
Many cases were dismissed not based on evidence but on standing and procedure. Then the media sided with the Biden camp. I don't believe there existed one judge who proceeded with evidentiary hearings based on factual evidence.
I don't believe there existed one case where there was factual evidence. The world has now had over four years to uncover any that might exist, and they have not.

Classic deflection!
Perhaps, but my point stands. Given that you are a white right-winger with a long history of racist comments, your opinion on why Trump gained among Black men and Latinos holds no water as far as I'm concerned. Of course there are reasons for those trends, but you're just seeing what you want to see.
The crime was horrendous, it was an emotional response. His one page add was more about violent crime not the color of anyone’s skin. But you like to inject race into everything.
It was five poor Black men accused of beating and raping an affluent white woman. The only way you could pretend race wasn't a factor in people's reaction to the case would be if you were either willfully dishonest with yourself about the realities of racism in America (that's my guess as far as you're concerned), or if you were just plain stupid (which admittedly is always a possibility with Trump).
Trump initiatives to help black citizens.

* The First step act!
Not a Trump initiative. He did sign it, but he not only wasn't the one who initiated the bill, he was initially opposed to it. You know why he changed his mind? Because his son in law lobbied Fox News to give it good coverage.

* Ready to Work act to aid black convicts to gain meaningful employment
Introduced in Congress before Trump was elected, and died in committee. If I'm being very generous, you might be simply confusing that name with some other bill that did come to Trump's desk, but I doubt it.
* 1.4 million black Americans have found jobs during Trump’s first term
That number is really quite low for four years.
* Black poverty reached historic lows during Trump’s first ter.
And got even lower under Biden.
You’re the racist!
...is what you always say when anyone reminds you that oppression still exists in America today.
It wasn’t baseless at the time. Trump has since reversed his statement. Politics is a blood sport. It wasn’t a racist rant as much as it was a political rant. You people call Trump a fascist, Hitler, a racist a Nazis so cry me a river!
Yes, it was baseless at the time. There has never been a scintilla of evidence that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.
How would you know, leftist politicians and legacy media don’t give migrant crimes much coverage, many times don’t cover it at all. Democrats protect them.
Surely you could uncover an example or two of this if that were true.
I remember Biden excoriating border patrol for whipping migrants at the border, a big lie. It was an obvious lie but neither Biden nor his administration apologized for such a horrendous lie, but that’s what democrats do.
Are you really arguing that ICE never abuses migrants? Seriously?

migrants were breaking our laws by the thousands.
If you're referring to their immigration status, that's a civil law issue, not a criminal one.
Hundreds of law enforcement are putting their lives on the line.. The left is vilifying ICE and Border patrol under Trump but gave Biden and Obama a pass.
Next time you feel like whining about our side calling the Republicans fascists, keep in mind that idolizing the cops is a symptom of fascism.

I’m not sure what the numbers are today but thousands of migrant criminals are being removed from our streets and Democrats are pissed.
Not because criminals are being removed, and you know it.

Democrats are more concerned about criminal illegals than their own constituents.
Seriously, turn off Fox News already. Go get some fresh air!
Who cares what party. I’m not disputing the use of the word. His actions speak volumes.
Who cares what party? You do, evidently. You're the one who brought that up. And yes, his actions - and words - do speak volumes.
Trump says stupid shit and so doesn’t every president in history.
That's rich coming from a guy who claimed Biden had dimentia every time he coughed.
We as a nation compare outcomes against our own accomplishments not other countries.
In other words, you wouldn't have credited Biden for anything short of a miracle. Because that is what it would have taken to avoid any economic fallout whatsoever from the pandemic.
Using that analogy there’s enough compelling circumstantial evidence that the Biden family is as corrupt as the day is long but because he’s connected no charges.
Wrong. Those 99% of rapists who never go to trial don't escape justice because they're connected (well, a few do, but most don't). They never go to trial because we live in a culture that tends to excuse that particular crime, as your own commentary about Justice Kavanaugh below proves.
Failure to impanel a grand jury doesn’t mean he’s not guilty, it’s because he’s connected and holds all the cards. He and Hillary both violated criminal statutes on several occasions but nothing.
Hillary Clinton is literally the most thoroughly investigated American in history, maybe the most in the world. It's been 35 years since she got under the right's skin for not staying home to bake cookies. If what you said were true, something would have come to light by now. As for Biden, his son was convicted.
But Trump, a different story. 34 ridiculous felony convictions for bookkeeping errors, misdemeanors that outran the statute of limitations.
They were not bookkeeping errors, it was systemic fraud.
It’s a moral issue.
Then any Trump supporter would do well to stay as far away from it as s/he can.
Democrats have stooped to this tactic against Kavanaugh, that’s what you do. Democrats have no ethical standards that they won’t trample on to stay in power.
Thank you for at least showing your true colors here.
 
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