Tattoos - A hidden cost!

[ishtat]

Tattoo for your wife? It could cost more than you think. There was a thread here about tattoos a few months back, so I thought some folk might be interested.

A few years ago I arranged finance for a young woman who wanted to branch out from medical tattooing into tattoo removal. The latest laser/resonance technology became available from about 2007/8 just when the GFC dried up all commercial credit.

Anyway we were able to help, and her business has progressed very well. I recently saw her and she told me a cautionary tale. A young woman had come to her wanting a whole of back tattoo removed. It was quite recent and she claimed that her ex husband had talked her into being tattood against her will. Now she wanted every trace of him and the tattoo removed, no matter how long it took or cost.

It took a very long time (some 3 years) and many treatments and the fees were tens of thousands.

However, and this is the sting in the tale; someone suggested that the woman claim the removal cost as part of her divorce settlement. The Judge agreed and awarded her those costs in full. He was convinced that the husband had shown himself to be bullying his former wife by a string of emails he had sent to the original tattooist making suggestions as to design etc. Unfortunately for him the tattooist kept all the emails which were later used in evidence.

By the time the court award was made, over $40,000 in removal costs had been incurred, and there was still some way to go.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Tattoo for your wife? It could cost more than you think. There was a thread here about tattoos a few months back, so I thought some folk might be interested.

A few years ago I arranged finance for a young woman who wanted to branch out from medical tattooing into tattoo removal. The latest laser/resonance technology became available from about 2007/8 just when the GFC dried up all commercial credit.

Anyway we were able to help, and her business has progressed very well. I recently saw her and she told me a cautionary tale. A young woman had come to her wanting a whole of back tattoo removed. It was quite recent and she claimed that her ex husband had talked her into being tattood against her will. Now she wanted every trace of him and the tattoo removed, no matter how long it took or cost.

It took a very long time (some 3 years) and many treatments and the fees were tens of thousands.

However, and this is the sting in the tale; someone suggested that the woman claim the removal cost as part of her divorce settlement. The Judge agreed and awarded her those costs in full. He was convinced that the husband had shown himself to be bullying his former wife by a string of emails he had sent to the original tattooist making suggestions as to design etc. Unfortunately for him the tattooist kept all the emails which were later used in evidence.

By the time the court award was made, over $40,000 in removal costs had been incurred, and there was still some way to go.

Owie. I read an article recently about a fund that helps women who've been tattooed in abuse situations (mostly sex-slavery) get cover-ups, but from what I hear actual removal is more painful and unpleasant.

Then there's this guy.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Never understood the attraction of tattoos. Don't they just mutilate a handsome/beautiful body? Oh! and make you unemployable.

 

[PayDay]

Never understood the attraction of tattoos. Don't they just mutilate a handsome/beautiful body? Oh! and make you unemployable.

Or they repair a mutilated body...

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Or they repair a mutilated body...

Is it repair or conceal?

 

[lovecraft68]

Never understood the attraction of tattoos. Don't they just mutilate a handsome/beautiful body? Oh! and make you unemployable.

Unemployable back years ago maybe not anymore.

The doctor that recently performed heart surgery on my mother had a full sleeve on his right arm.

The only people who will not hire based on that are the same who wont hire based on race gender and sexual preference.

Puttibg it simply the dinosaurs from a very ignorant generation. You know pilots crowd.

 

[PennLady]

Never understood the attraction of tattoos. Don't they just mutilate a handsome/beautiful body? Oh! and make you unemployable.

They certainly don't make you unemployable, although that depends on some extent on the employer. I think for the most part, as long as the art is covered or mostly covered, no one cares. The military has a somewhat stricter stance, but that's probably not unexpected.

As for "mutilate," I don't think so. If a woman who undergoes a mastectomy has a nipple tattooed on the reconstructed breast, is that mutilation?

You certainly don't have to like tattoos, but making a snap general judgment doesn't do anyone any good. Tattoos have gone mainstream.

 

[Handley_Page]

That story in the Sidney Morning Herald, mentioned earlier ( http://www.smh.com.au/world/pit-bull-of-skinheads-endures-agony-to-remove-tattoos-and-start-a-new-life-20111101-1mug6.html )
read like a Lit story "romance". And a good plot bunny, too.
Ye gods, that boy's got guts!

 

[soflabbwlvr]

Everyone has their own opinions about tattoos. Some people love them, some feel they "mutilate" a body. To each their own.

A few things are not debatable. There are employers who will not hire you if you have visible ink. The more ink you have showing and the more offensive it is, the harder it will be to get a job. I think it would be nearly impossible to get work with a big black swastika tattooed on your face.

I have tattoos, but they are completely covered when I am working. The same with my wife. I made that choice because that's the standard in my profession.

Personally, I don't think anyone under 30 should get tattooed. I see too many poor decisions made by younger people who are in a hurry to get inked. If you are going to make a permanent choice like that, it should be after considerable thought and with a little more life experience than merely reaching your 18th birthday. Also, I think anyone get a tattoo should wait a year after selecting a design before getting it applied. Put some real thought into what you are getting, rather than acting on impulse.

Just my thoughts.

 

[sr71plt]

I think tattoos are are whole lot more interesting in erotica stories than in person.

 

[_Lynn_]

All of mine can be covered. I chose places that different styles of clothing either shows or hides them, depending on the situation.

 

[PayDay]

Is it repair or conceal?

When it comes to the body, what's the difference?

 

[Swilly]

Tattoo for your wife? It could cost more than you think. There was a thread here about tattoos a few months back, so I thought some folk might be interested.

A few years ago I arranged finance for a young woman who wanted to branch out from medical tattooing into tattoo removal. The latest laser/resonance technology became available from about 2007/8 just when the GFC dried up all commercial credit.

Anyway we were able to help, and her business has progressed very well. I recently saw her and she told me a cautionary tale. A young woman had come to her wanting a whole of back tattoo removed. It was quite recent and she claimed that her ex husband had talked her into being tattood against her will. Now she wanted every trace of him and the tattoo removed, no matter how long it took or cost.

It took a very long time (some 3 years) and many treatments and the fees were tens of thousands.

However, and this is the sting in the tale; someone suggested that the woman claim the removal cost as part of her divorce settlement. The Judge agreed and awarded her those costs in full. He was convinced that the husband had shown himself to be bullying his former wife by a string of emails he had sent to the original tattooist making suggestions as to design etc. Unfortunately for him the tattooist kept all the emails which were later used in evidence.

By the time the court award was made, over $40,000 in removal costs had been incurred, and there was still some way to go.

My guess is that this dude must have pretty damned insistent on the wife getting tattooed for the judge to award her that settlement...and in such a way as to make her feel she really didn't have a choice. Frankly, he got what he deserved if that's the case. No one should force their will upon their spouse like that, especially with something that is nearly permanent.

Tattoos...Eh. I can and do live without them. I feel the same about body mods in general. They all seem to be the rage, and because they are, more and more people do them, leading to even more people doing them. I know everyone is different, but I really don't get the mass appeal here.

 

[Handley_Page]

I have one, very small tattoo mark.
I's a green dot on my sternum. It's where the laser beams crossed and show that I was in the exact spot that the Radio Therapy machine (Linac) wanted me as it was bathing me in the rays (photons, actually).

 

[PayDay]

These two threads give lots of ink opinion:

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=350491
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=688984

 

[Vanadorn]

You have to remember, the stuff you're into at 18 or 21 - is not the same stuff you're into @ 30 or 40. A tattoo is for life, you should be damned sure it's what you want to see every day until you die.

And as for the job thing - as long as it can be covered up without undue effort, it's fine. See these nutty bastards with neck tattoos or something on their wrist and I wonder if they ever gave any thought to doing something other than fry-cook work @ the local fast food joint as a career.

-V

 

[Bramblethorn]

Never understood the attraction of tattoos. Don't they just mutilate a handsome/beautiful body? Oh! and make you unemployable.

If you mean "unemployable like Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Sean Bean" maybe...

There are some fields where tattoos are a disadvantage but there are plenty that don't care, as long as the tattoo itself isn't offensive. I know lawyers and programmers with tattoos, and it doesn't seem to have harmed their career.

 

[PayDay]

You have to remember, the stuff you're into at 18 or 21 - is not the same stuff you're into @ 30 or 40. A tattoo is for life, you should be damned sure it's what you want to see every day until you die.

And as for the job thing - as long as it can be covered up without undue effort, it's fine. See these nutty bastards with neck tattoos or something on their wrist and I wonder if they ever gave any thought to doing something other than fry-cook work @ the local fast food joint as a career.

-V

Most of those posters in the threads I bumped are late 20s -40s. Who gives a shit what your body looks like at 70? At least your alive...

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Of the 1000+ people we employ, if we didn't hire people with tattoos we wouldn't have a workforce.

I don't have any myself. I've never liked the permanence aspect that comes with it. I'm too vain about my hair and body as it is.

But that's not to say I don't like looking at them on other people. The tattoos that go beyond the cliched ones have history and emotion behind them. Often a person's tattooed skin is like trying to interpret the meaning behind an artistic painting.

A co-worker and friend of mine has full sleeves and most of her back. There is a lot of rich colorful details in the ink and if you ask her each thing has a story behind it. Honestly, I feel it enhances her beauty.

But of course, there are those that have the opposite effect, usually by someone who gave it zero to no thought or was just trying to be "hip".

 

[colddiesel]

Unemployable back years ago maybe not anymore.

The doctor that recently performed heart surgery on my mother had a full sleeve on his right arm.

The only people who will not hire based on that are the same who wont hire based on race gender and sexual preference.

Puttibg it simply the dinosaurs from a very ignorant generation. You know pilots crowd.

I went on a cruise in the Med last summer. Very expensive, most of the 400 people on Board were professionals, Business owners, doctors, lawyers, accountants, academics etc etc. Yet despite the heat and the lack of clothes I only saw one of these successful people with a Tattoo. These were smart, successful, well off people. Dinosaurs- I don't think so, ignorant - definitely not.

Incidentally LC, I doubt you have any evidence to support the assertions in your penultimate paragraph either.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

I went on a cruise in the Med last summer. Very expensive, most of the 400 people on Board were professionals, Business owners, doctors, lawyers, accountants, academics etc etc. Yet despite the heat and the lack of clothes I only saw one of these successful people with a Tattoo. These were smart, successful, well off people. Dinosaurs- I don't think so, ignorant - definitely not.

Incidentally LC, I doubt you have any evidence to support the assertions in your penultimate paragraph either.

The evidence. You're welcome

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelhennessey/2013/02/27/having-a-tattoo-and-a-job/?optimizely=a

 

[Catchalot]

Never understood the attraction of tattoos. Don't they just mutilate a handsome/beautiful body? Oh! and make you unemployable.

No, they don't, but thanks for asking.

 

[49greg]

Everyone has their own opinions about tattoos. Some people love them, some feel they "mutilate" a body. To each their own.

A few things are not debatable. There are employers who will not hire you if you have visible ink. The more ink you have showing and the more offensive it is, the harder it will be to get a job. I think it would be nearly impossible to get work with a big black swastika tattooed on your face.

I have tattoos, but they are completely covered when I am working. The same with my wife. I made that choice because that's the standard in my profession.

Personally, I don't think anyone under 30 should get tattooed. I see too many poor decisions made by younger people who are in a hurry to get inked. If you are going to make a permanent choice like that, it should be after considerable thought and with a little more life experience than merely reaching your 18th birthday. Also, I think anyone get a tattoo should wait a year after selecting a design before getting it applied. Put some real thought into what you are getting, rather than acting on impulse.

Just my thoughts.

You have to remember, the stuff you're into at 18 or 21 - is not the same stuff you're into @ 30 or 40. A tattoo is for life, you should be damned sure it's what you want to see every day until you die.

And as for the job thing - as long as it can be covered up without undue effort, it's fine. See these nutty bastards with neck tattoos or something on their wrist and I wonder if they ever gave any thought to doing something other than fry-cook work @ the local fast food joint as a career.

-V

A lot of good points and everyone has their own opinion. As for me, I don't have any tats, but I'm old enough to be on Social Security. However if I was a young twenty or thirty something I might well have something small and hidden.

But the real me has seen too damn many old tattoos on old men who got them in their late teens and twenties during WW2 or Korea. Yes, tats are there for ever, but they aren't the same after enough years, they fade and a person's skin changes, gets looser, or whatever, and the tats don't look like they used to. I've seen some where I couldn't even make out the words, could have been "Semper Fi" or "Remember Pearl Harbor" or "Mother" or "Remember the Maine" or "Death before Dishonor" or "Remember the Alamo" or been in Klingon for all I could tell. They were just jumbled and faded lines and curves that didn't make sense.

And that was in the eighties, the guys that had them were in their fifties and sixties. From my end of the spectrum that isn't that old.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I went on a cruise in the Med last summer. Very expensive, most of the 400 people on Board were professionals, Business owners, doctors, lawyers, accountants, academics etc etc. Yet despite the heat and the lack of clothes I only saw one of these successful people with a Tattoo. These were smart, successful, well off people. Dinosaurs- I don't think so, ignorant - definitely not.

That doesn't tell you "successful people don't have tattoos". It just tells you that the sort of successful people who do have tattoos don't go on cruises much.

And LC's "dinosaurs" comment was directed at people who won't hire somebody with tattoos, so unless you polled these people on their hiring practices, it doesn't contradict him at all.

The evidence. You're welcome

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelhennessey/2013/02/27/having-a-tattoo-and-a-job/?optimizely=a

Nice.

 

[SereneGal]

I guess tattoos are like everything else.. everyone has an opinion, and their own reasoning behind that opinion. Whether we agree with that opinion or the reasoning..... Or even if that reasoning is sound, is another thing entirely.

My own example. It goes to the topic of mutilation vs. decoration.

When my ex's grandmother first saw my tattoo on my ankle,(a very delicate and pretty tattoo) her response was to shake her head and sigh. She then asked, "Why would you do that to yourself?" To which my response was, "I like it, I like tattoos and see them as decoration that means something to me." Continuing to shake her head, her next response was to say, "It's just not right! If God had wanted you to have that tattoo there he'd have put it there. You're just mutilating your body!".. So, of course my own response, being the smartass I am,was to ask her if God had put the holes in her ears, that her diamond earrings were hanging from. Needless to say she had no response, other than to spit and sputter and storm off. Didn't make a fan that day for sure, lol.

IMHO.. making snap judgments and generalizations based on the societal norm is a bit like walking into a book store and seeing a book with a pretty cover and buying it without any idea of the contents.