Talented Youth

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Sorry, it's now an angry mom

I had a perfectly fine post here, but I guess I hit a nerve with Jade...Didn't mean to fucking brag, but WTF? Thought you were free to post on the general board whatever the fuck you want? Not that I ever post or start new threads very often, just wanted to share a pic of my kids art work. Excuse me all to fucking hell. So much for classy Kat...My first real piss off on this board! Oh, and why the hell am I a class act Jade? I am no better than anyone else on this board. I have just never bitched before!

Now I know why the hell I do not post, nor want to again, at least until I cool off! Thanks for making me feel like shit Jade! And....for the record, I didn't say I was a great writer, only that it was a hidden talent that I enjoyed. Oh, and by the way, what the hell am I suppose to think, when you post a thread called *I just finished my first piece of erotic art ever? Is this fair?

Oh and as far as a yuppie? I am not one of those either, but ya know, guess what? There might be others on this board that take great offense to that, because there are alot of yuppies in this world. It takes all kinds to make the world go around...

I have never felt so shit on, so fast in my entire life! What a great place!

This was a post about talented kids. I was truly interested in if anyone else on the board had a gifted child. Who the hell cares if you brag abit, why the hell not? What is there not to be proud of? It's not like I have even fucking bragged before on this damn board. I was so livid, I cut my post out right away. Talk about the power to hurt people on here. I would never hurt anyone intentionally, not ever! All posts are not for everyone, but there might have been some interested and wanting to share their stories. Who the hell has a right to down someones post and make them feel so bad, they feel like a fool. This was not even a fucking meaningless post! Shit!

Never, thank you for your views on my original thread. At first, I misunderstood your reponse to Jade and vented at you too. Sorry sweetie. Fixed my mistake, and reworded it. You had Jade's quote mixed with your response, so it confused me. I was not going to worry about it, but I noticed Jade quoted all my angry words below, and I didn't want you to be confused, so I clarified.

Oh and also, this is a general thread, and I have seen loads of posts to do with kids...Potty training comes to mind? I really thought it was suitable to share a pic of her artwork, guess I should not have bragged though, forgive me all to hell.

Below, is Jade's response to my previous thread.

Kat



[Edited by Katerina on 08-26-2000 at 09:16 AM]

 

[Jade]

Oh GOD PLEASE NO!!!
I have to deal with this EVERY single FUCKING DAY in RL!!

PLEASE !!! WHY GOD WHY!

AHHHHHHHH
(runs screaming from the room)

 

[Never]

eh?

~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
Just putting another post under post under my belt.

Jade. Explain please.

 

[Jade]

eh?

~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
Just putting another post under post under my belt.

Jade. Explain please.

Never,

I suppose you have the right to ask me that.
I didn't mean to come across as a bitch, although I am certain I did... ah well.

It is just that I am SO sick of people doing that!
I mean, everyone has great kids and that do great things in one way or another.
I loved that part of the post when she talked about herself being a great writer, THAT was fabulous... but did she have to go the vicarious route and start rambling on about her children?
How will that feel to childless people?
There are a lot of them on here.

Anyway,
I am sure I will get a lot of shit for that post, but I am not changing it b/c that is how I feel.
I realize that Katerina is a class act and is just a proud Mommy, but it's just that I have to deal with yuppies every day at work and ALL they talk about is their fucking kids... it is just completely obnoxious! I think that people's deeds should speak for themselves and we shouldn't have to over-do the bragging and call attention to it for them. Doesn't that make sense?

Well, nonetheless, please don't take offense.

 

[Never]

Jade: "I loved that part of the post when she talked about herself being a great writer, THAT was
fabulous... but did she have to go the vicarious route and start rambling on about her children?"
Because she's proud of them.

"How will that feel to childless people?
There are a lot of them on here"
I'm childless and I don't care. I've seen threads where only men could answer, that talked about the problems of middle aged women, 'what was it like your first time?', how difficult it was to deal with boyfriends or girlfriends.. I was excluded somewhat from all of them and never batted an eye. Think of this thread as asking people to share their pride about being a parent, that's not going to apply to everyone but Katarina didn't want to talk about how great everyone thought they were. That's her prerogative as the thread's originator.

 

[Jade]

"How will that feel to childless people?
There are a lot of them on here"
I'm childless and I don't care. I've seen threads where only men could answer, that talked about the problems of middle aged women, 'what was it like your first time?', how difficult it was to deal with boyfriends or girlfriends.. I was excluded somewhat from all of them and never batted an eye. Think of this thread as asking people to share their pride about being a parent, that's not going to apply to everyone but Katarina didn't want to talk about how great everyone thought they were. That's her prerogative as the thread's originator.

*Sigh* As usual.. I have been misunderstood.. let me see if I can unravel the demons that have arrived on this thread before they turn into some horrible rug...

First of all, just b/c YOU are childless and it does not bother YOU, does not mean that applies to everyone who is childless, or that it doesn't, ... I can't assume any more than anyone else can.
Secondly, the relationship between feeling left out of something to do with sex. (eg: the whole, boyfriend/girlfriend/virginity, etc. questions) and something to do with children.. which shouldn't even be here really. Therefore, I just don't see the relevance there. I hardly can agree that feeling left out of a virginity conversation vs. feeling left out of a "let's all brag about our children" thread... on a sex board no less can be an ideal anaology... no offense.
Additionally... she mentioned the commercial and everything... personally, I would want to protect my identity and would opt. for DCL's undertakings on that in the first place. There is a TIME and a PLACE for this type of thing...
I admit... lots of threads here have nothing to do with sex... but not much should be further from that than children.. or, I can't think of much anyway.

Finally, as I said, this is just how I feel and that was why I put the entire "running away screaming" thing.. to add some light humor, cancel out any potential negative vibes from all the parents (as I actually adore kids) and to make usage of my right to say "I don't like this idea and so I am hitting the 'back' button on my browser," as I am sure plenty of people have done on my threads, many times. )
I was simply expressing personal angst, as we often do here on the BB... it is just part of lit BB life I believe.

PS: I love talking to people about their kids on aol IM and through email... I just didn't feel it was appropriate for the board.. those are my feelings and I hope that someone can understand.
Good night!

 

[Naked Hunny]

Ok i looked at the Painting!!

If I was KitKat(thats what im calling you from now on) Id brag too hell i brag when my daughter colors out of the lines. Shes 11 months old and doesnt eat her crayons!! Every parent brags Jade and everyone wants to share their stories!! Why cant KitKat share hers without getting grief!!

 

[Jade]

I had a perfectly fine post here, but I guess I hit a nerve with Jade and Never...Didn't mean to fucking brag, but WTF? Thought you were free to post on the general board whatever the fuck you want? Not that I ever post or start new threads very often, just wanted to share a pic of my kids art work. Excuse me all to fucking hell. So much for classy Kat...My first real piss off on this board! Oh, and why the hell am I a class act? I am no better than anyone else on this board. I have just never bitched before!

Now I know why the hell I do not post, nor want to again, at least until I cool off! Thanks for making me feel like shit Jade! And....for the record, I didn't say I was a great writer, only that it was a hidden talent that I enjoyed. Oh, and by the way, what the hell am I suppose to think, when you post a thread called *I just finished my first piece of erotic art ever? Is this fair?

Oh and as far as a yuppie? I am not one of those either, but ya know, guess what? There might be others on this board that take great offense to that, because there are alot of yuppies in this world. It takes all kinds to make the world go around...

I have never felt so shit on, so fast in my entire life! What a great place!

As for you my friend Never, I don't plan on rambling ever fucking again!

This was a post about talented kids. I was truly interested in if anyone else on the board had a gifted child. Who the hell cares if you brag abit, why the hell not? What is there not to be proud of? It's not like I have even fucking bragged before on this damn board. I was so livid, I cut my post out right away. Talk about the power to hurt people on here. I would never hurt anyone intentionally, not ever! All posts are not for everyone, but there might have been some interested and wanting to share their stories. Who the hell has a right to down someones post and make them feel so bad, they feel like a fool. This was not even a fucking meaningless post! Shit!

Have a fucking great night!



[Edited by Katerina on 08-25-2000 at 09:38 PM]

I am sorry you didn't read my post for what it was Kat... NOT AN INSULT at YOU.. but you took it the wrong way and completely misinterpreted me.

I hope you come back soon.

As far as my thread goes about MY artwork... it is about MY artwork.. if you want to say something about YOUR artwork, go ahead!
If you want to say something about your kids again GO ahead!
AS I said... if you could just muster a little maturity and scroll.. I was just excercising MY right to feel how I feel.
Feel free to attack the f#%% out of any of my threads should you want to.

We all have the rights to our opinions, including me.
And anyway, if anyone was attacked.. it was YOU on ME.. and now you have a whole thread dedicated to it...
So, good for you.
And YOU have a good night.. and go cool off and we will see you when you feel better and realize that I was not trying to hurt your feelings or call you a yuppy.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Renaming

It occured to me while reading this thread that the revised contents would be better described by the thread title "Angry Women" than "Talented Youth".

Isn't this the classic problem that Laurel was talking about the other day (Negativity...)? One person posts something they are legitimately happy and excited about, expecting input and support from others. Another person posts a needling, but clearly not mean spirited, response, and the whole thing turns into a mud-slinging contest. It just seems like this whole thing could have been stopped at so many points.

If you're going to post something personal, then you have to be strong enough to accept that not everyone cares about or even respects the things you hold near and dear.

If you're going to respond to someone that you may not know very well (or who might not *understand* your sense of humor), try to remember that their feelings may be invested in it--particularly when it is something as personal as their children.

Then again, I'm rambling on like the old sage when it's just my opinion. But, that's what the board's for, isn't it?

Stop the Insanity! (tee hee--I've always wanted a chance to use that line)
*group hugs* Risia

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Oh GOD PLEASE NO!!!
I have to deal with this EVERY single FUCKING DAY in RL!!

PLEASE !!! WHY GOD WHY!

AHHHHHHHH
(runs screaming from the room)

Ok Jade, please tell me, how I was not to misunderstand you, from your initial post above? God, hell if I know? I am sorry if I vented at you, but shit, I rarely post and I have never been in disagreement before, so I suppose I could have handled myself better. I am a mature person, but even mature people get angry at times. I do not plan on attacking your art thread ever, guess that is why I was ticked you attacked mine. I did not mean for this thread to become what it is, I am almost embarrassed that it has. Sorry if I offended anyone reading this post.

Skye, you could not have said it better, I will keep your wise words in mind. Naked Hunny, Thank you

Again, Jade, I apologize

Katerina







[Edited by Katerina on 08-26-2000 at 01:28 AM]

 

[Jade]

Yes RisiaSkye.. THANK YOU!
That was well... perfect!
*Sigh* And to think I just made a whole new thread explaining myself to prevent getting attacked by parents, when someone understood me all along.

 

[RisiaSkye]

And the Love Returns...

I'm so glad that everyone has cooled down! I've been reading this board for many months, and I know that everyone involved in that little spat is a sensitive, classy dame..(Incidentally, why does no one use the word "dame" any more? It worked for all those '40s guys without sounding awful. I want it back!)

Let the love begin! *grin*

 

[Cheyenne]

See, I knew there had to have been some kind of bad misunderstanding. Glad to see it has been cleared up and all tempers calmed.

Dare I risk asking for the original post to be put back for the rest of us to see, too?

 

[Ramlick]

What a weird scene, man.

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Cheyenne, sorry I no longer have my original post, so I cannot repost it. I do have my daughters painting picture, but I am too embarrassed to share it now...God, I am so sorry I started something so horrible. I was excited sharing her painting and now I feel like hell. Oh well, live and learn through your mistakes.

Sorry to have blown you away Ramlick.

 

[Isabella Thorne]

Dames if they do, Dames if they don't!

Originally posted by RisiaSkye
(Incidentally, why does no one use the word "dame" any more? It worked for all those '40s guys without sounding awful. I want it back!

you want it back baby? *donning my Rosalind Russell wig .. my street-savy form fitting suit ..my seam stockings and chunky heeled shoes* ...

.. *leaning over ... I whisper into Cary Grant's ear* .. tete a tete ..

"I tell you Cary .. you couldn't ask for two sweller dames than these two ... Jade and Kit .. anywhere ... dames like these two .. they don't grow on trees you know .. unless they had a dame tree .. now that would be the cat's pajamas .. wouldn't it Cary?

These dames .. well sometimes they get into misunderstandings .. .. each one was right .. just different views .. any way you look at it .. these two dames are class acts all the way, sugar ..."

"i know what you're thinking .. what's a dame like me doing in a thread like this ... i'm just putting in my 2 cents for a couple of my fave dames .."

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Bell, you are too much. Thanks for your sweet words regarding Jade and I. I hardly even know you, and here you are being so nice. You certainly put a smile on my face, that I can say. I thought to myself, this dame is good, I like her. I still am not sure why I am deemed a class act, but I most definately like hearing that. I want to be known by others on the board as a friend, not to be remembered my such a flaming post towards Jade. So, I am swallowing my pride, and I am apologizing to all on the board for my childish behaviour. I will try not to let it happen again.

Hugs KitKat

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Here you go!

I have decided to post my daughters pic, regardless of my outburst. I cannot repost my original thread, so I think it is only fair to others to post this, so they can see just why I felt so proud. She was 15 at the time of this painting. Hope you enjoy it. This is a picture of our barn, which collapsed last July, due to 80 mile an hour winds. It was a gift to her dad. A picture says a thousand words.


http://www.geocities.com/demureluv/JensPainting.jpg

[Edited by Katerina on 08-26-2000 at 12:07 AM]

 

[CreamyLady]

It is a beautiful painting, and she is very talented.

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Thanks Creamy Lady, I think so too. Hugs KitKat

 

[Bigdog]

Hi KitKat,

Glad to see you put the pic back up, I also have an artistic daughter that I am proud of. Her wolf paintings occupy a great deal of wall space in my bedroom. How old was your daughter when she painted the picture? Just curious, there is so much going on in our modern culture that the young people don't seem to have much interest in art these days. It's always nice to see the exceptions.

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Hey Bigdog. My daugher painted that when she was 15. She is 16 now, and has finished 3 more paintings. Each one has gotten better as she goes along. Also, she has never had a painting lesson in her life, this is her own creative mind and talented hand. Her talents go beyond painting. She sketches, does wood work, draws, and even helps her grandma with wedding cakes. Her gift comes from my mom, skipped me unforunately. Glad you liked the pic.

I am happy to hear you have a talented daughter also. How old is she and when did her creative side come out? Does she does she have other talents as well? Sounds like you are a proud parent too, and you have every right to be.

Hugs Kitkat

[Edited by Katerina on 08-26-2000 at 09:22 AM]

 

[Cheyenne]

Thanks!

Glad to see the pic is back- very nice! I can't draw a straight line and anyone who has talent always impresses me. Considering the orientation of this site, you probably can't show your daughter that it is posted here and let her see how proud you are of her. But I'm betting she knows anyway.

Maybe you could start a web page for your daughter like Lasher did for his wife's photography work?

 

[Katerina Val-Kyrie]

Thanks Cheyenne for your kind words. I appreaciate them so very much.

Lasher, is your page available for others to see, now? If you are out there, let me know, ok? I would love to view your wife's pics, I am a photgraphy nut, myself.

KitKat

 

[Evesdemise]

Verbose and to the Point

Kat--What a lovely tribute to parent's hearts and children's dreams. I started reading this active thread today, from the beginning, simply because it was titled "talented youth". Anyone who knows me just a little knows that creativity is my main driving force, and I am drawn to anything that denotes a creative concept. I hope that I have worded this right, for the reason that I am posting here is not only to tell you that I feel that it is a wonderful thing to be proud of your child, as many of us grow up wondering if our parents were ever proud of us, but to say something else in reference to the horrendous discussion that predeeded the posting of the picture. I posted at one of the threads that Jade started, concerning her test scores being so high, and being concerned about telling someone, without deflating their ego. I told her that I have always found it a sad fact of life that people with talent should ever feel the need to consider how others must feel who may not have this gift or ability. It is true, in fact that most people who fall short of success, do so for lack of trying, not from lack of ability. Therefore, one who has challenged the status quo, and achieved greatness, in any form, and at any age should never feel ashamed to let the world know that they tried, and in some instances, even succeeded.
Well, that is all I have to say, except I love the picture, Kat. Your daughter is quite talented. Never let anyone tell you not to tell anyone who will listen that you have a wonderful child.