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"Trump als eerste oud-president VS schuldig bevonden in strafzaak" - NOS Dutch media report on T's criminal conviction

30 may 2024.
For the first time a former United States president has been convicted of a crime.
Accountability at last.

And this is just the first. There are multiple other criminal trials against him.
As a non-American I am of the opinion that this makes him unsuitable to run for president.

The judge will decide a punishment on a later date. Any idea how long that might take? (EDIT. Sentencing on 11 July 2024)
 
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Trump als eerste oud-president VS schuldig bevonden in strafzaak - NOS Dutch media report on T's criminal conviction

30 may 2024.
For the first time a former United States president has been convicted of a crime.
Accountability at last.

And this is just the first. There are multiple other criminal trials against him.
As a non-American I am of the opinion that this makes him unsuitable to run for president.

The judge will decide a punishment on a later date. Any idea how long that might take?
Sentencing is July 11th.
 
Due to his criminal conviction he won't be allowed to vote in the next election.
He shouldn't be able to stand for election either.
His conviction maybe stayed on appeal, which I think would allow him to vote this November. No way an appeal gets heard now before the next election.
 
No we can move on to the appellate court where, it seems, they still believe in the rule of law.
 
Due to his criminal conviction he won't be allowed to vote in the next election.
He shouldn't be able to stand for election either.

Actually he might be able to. Florida apparently defers to the state of conviction. And NY allows felons to vote. Even if Florida doesn't.

So yeah asshole can still vote for himself.
 
On a scale from 0-10, how happy are we right now? I'm at an 8.
I'm at a 5. 10 in feeling elated at his conviction. 0 in democratic confidence because his presidency should never have occurred and we have put ourselves through 8 years of needless misinformation hell, losing millions to covid, and no longer have the good standing we once did on the world stage (yeah, I know, debatable, but trump made our allies worried and emboldened our enemies). And knowing that his conviction still won't change the minds of many of our more clueless citizens, yeah, I'm at a 5 on the whole.
 
I expected a hung jury or acquittal. We'll see how the appellate court decides.

I'm indifferent to the verdict. I still think GA would've been the strongest case had they filed different charges, but am not so sure on the ones they went with. After that change, the classified docs case is a no brainer.
 
I expected a hung jury or acquittal. We'll see how the appellate court decides.

I'm indifferent to the verdict. I still think GA would've been the strongest case had they filed different charges, but am not so sure on the ones they went with. After that change, the classified docs case is a no brainer.
I was thinking of the previous NY prosecutor, Cyrus Vance Jr, who declined to prosecute Trump, because he had to rely partially on a statute that had never been tested in court before, and he didn't want to risk his prosecutorial win streak on something as trivial as "justice".
 
I am as light as a feather, I am as happy as an angel, I am as merry as a schoolgirl. I am as giddy as a drunken woman. A merry Christmas to everybody! A happy New Year to all the world! Hallo here! Whoop! Hallo!


And when it's reversed you will sink lower than you've ever been before. This is what happens when you let your emotions rule your life.
 
A gag order only lasts for the trial. Now that there's a verdict the gag order is automatically dissolved.

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No shit Einstein.

It was a rebuttal to Ish's claim that the appeals court some how operates differently. It upheld Merchan's gag order. All of them did.

Jesus fuck you're an idiot. Entertaining, but still an idiot.
 
Well, to be fair trump claims innocence, denies having a quickie with Stormy, and claims he won in 2020. So let’s just simmer down, he’s clearly a victim of something.

On the serious side, it’s a holy fuck moment for our nation. I know the MAGA spin, but at some point shit was bound to catch up with him. I guess we’ll see if his new attorneys can unwind the convictions.
 
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No shit Einstein.

It was a rebuttal to Ish's claim that the appeals court some how operates differently. It upheld Merchan's gag order. All of them did.

Jesus fuck you're an idiot. Entertaining, but still an idiot.

Then WHY THE FUCK did you quote Chobham?

Jeebus, for a mod you're a fucking buffoon when it comes to simple things like using the quote function.
 
Then WHY THE FUCK did you quote Chobham?

Jeebus, for a mod you're a fucking buffoon when it comes to simple things like using the quote function.

Oooh I know since I was replying to Ish I should have quoted Rory!

You're even slower than usual. You're taking the fun out of this.
 
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