Sybian & Vibrators and other sex toys re-examined...?

[amicus]

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I scrolled back four pages of threads trying to find the one in which the Sybian machine was discussed and failed to find it; thus this lil effort.

As a caviat, I suppose I should mention, for those who may not know, that I am a totally straight guy who is not very tolerant of sexual preferences other than heterosexual.

Further, which perhaps few have devined, I am barely, if at all, into pornography of any kind, photos or videos or outright kinky pornographic writing. The cable company messed up one week a few years ago and I had five porn channels available including the Playboy channel and did watch a few things that I found rather tasteless and repetitious after several programs.

That being said, the thread that had the discussion about the Sybian machine led me on a search just for my curiosity and so that I would not be uninformed about a thread topic.

I visited several different sites and wikipedia, where" all the way at the end of the article under related links I think, I found "Sybian in Pornography", and the damned site captured me for the better part of a day.

http://www.eonsex.com/?st=2&first=1152495550&cat=Movies&custom=sybian


I also visited a few weblogs and chat sites where Sybian was discussed and commented on, so I am not totally ignorant of the device and it's uses.

My naievete' becomes apparent as I was startled by the number of attractive 18 and 19 year old girls, who for $100.00, took their clothes off and mounted that machine with the camera's running. I suppose some were in the sex trade already, even so, well, maybe you have to spend some time at the linked site to understand my question.

I understood, without actually going to the manufacturer's site, that the Sybian machine costs between $1400 and $2000 US Dollars each and that some have purchased such machines and rent them out for $100 per 24 hours.

I have a ton of specific and non specific inquiries about the entire range of female gratification by machine and lesbian participation in such things that accomodate that lifestyle. But I think I will just present what I have typed thus far and run it up the pole.

Thanks in advance...


amicus the curious...

 

[Misty_Morning]

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I scrolled back four pages of threads trying to find the one in which the Sybian machine was discussed and failed to find it; thus this lil effort.

As a caviat, I suppose I should mention, for those who may not know, that I am a totally straight guy who is not very tolerant of sexual preferences other than heterosexual.

Further, which perhaps few have devined, I am barely, if at all, into pornography of any kind, photos or videos or outright kinky pornographic writing. The cable company messed up one week a few years ago and I had five porn channels available including the Playboy channel and did watch a few things that I found rather tasteless and repetitious after several programs.

That being said, the thread that had the discussion about the Sybian machine led me on a search just for my curiosity and so that I would not be uninformed about a thread topic.

I visited several different sites and wikipedia, where" all the way at the end of the article under related links I think, I found "Sybian in Pornography", and the damned site captured me for the better part of a day.

http://www.eonsex.com/?st=2&first=1152495550&cat=Movies&custom=sybian


I also visited a few weblogs and chat sites where Sybian was discussed and commented on, so I am not totally ignorant of the device and it's uses.

My naievete' becomes apparent as I was startled by the number of attractive 18 and 19 year old girls, who for $100.00, took their clothes off and mounted that machine with the camera's running. I suppose some were in the sex trade already, even so, well, maybe you have to spend some time at the linked site to understand my question.

I understood, without actually going to the manufacturer's site, that the Sybian machine costs between $1400 and $2000 US Dollars each and that some have purchased such machines and rent them out for $100 per 24 hours.

I have a ton of specific and non specific inquiries about the entire range of female gratification by machine and lesbian participation in such things that accomodate that lifestyle. But I think I will just present what I have typed thus far and run it up the pole.

Thanks in advance...


amicus the curious...

Yeah...and?

After I move and after I buy a new laptop, I'm gonna buy me a Sybian....I've wanted one for years. Yeah, it cost alot but since I'm gonna be moving to a new city where I don't know anyone and it'll take me a few months to get hooked up with someone(s) for sex on a regular basis, I'm gonna bite the bullet.

The toys I have now will do in a pinch, but I need a woman and one with a strap-on ( and one that I can return the favor with). So until I can get that organized...I'll be riding that Sybian like a bronco buster in a rodeo.

 

[fieryjen]

I believe it was this thread, just in case.

 

[Liar]

I have a ton of specific and non specific inquiries about the entire range of female gratification by machine and lesbian participation in such things that accomodate that lifestyle. But I think I will just present what I have typed thus far and run it up the pole.

Not sure if it's much of a lifestyle thing at all. Unless you count "woman" as a lifestyle choice. I don't see that there's anything especially mysteriouys or exotic about the Sybian, no matter what the marketing buzz claims. It's a masturbation device for women. An effective one, it seems. But that's about it.

 

[amicus]

Hi, Misty and thank you....have you tried one as yet, and do you have a comment on the g-spot stimulator attachment, which to me looked quite large for some of those young ladies that swallowed it up so easily?


amicus...

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=fieryjen]I believe it was this thread, just in case.[/QUOTE]


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Thank you Jen, yes that was the one and down just a few posts I see that Selena claims to own one, ahem....I look forward to her comments should she deign to offer them...smiles...


amicus...

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=Liar]Not sure if it's much of a lifestyle thing at all. Unless you count "woman" as a lifestyle choice. I don't see that there's anything especially mysteriouys or exotic about the Sybian, no matter what the marketing buzz claims. It's a masturbation device for women. An effective one, it seems. But that's about it.[/QUOTE]


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Well, Liar; I wasn't looking to pick a fight with the thread or even stir up controversy, but if that is what tickles ur pickle, then so be it.

By using the word, 'lifestyle', I suppose I was indeed referring to a change in society in which women live more and more without the company of a man, but still the need for sexual gratification, as we all do.

One of the many thoughts I had, watching the girls and women reach orgasm without the touch of a male hand, although they often stroke their breasts and clitoral area for increased stimulation in addition to the penetration, I was thinking how nice it might be to offer a pair of experienced lips to wander over various parts of the feminine mystique.

amicus...

 

[Guest]

how nice it might be to offer a pair of experienced lips to wander over various parts of the feminine mystique.

amicus...

While riding? Mmmm - that sounds lovely. I would like to try one - I wonder where cone could rent one where I am??

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=babygrrl_702]While riding? Mmmm - that sounds lovely. I would like to try one - I wonder where cone could rent one where I am??[/QUOTE]


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Hi, babygrrl, was it the machine or my lips you wanna rent? Grins, no fee for lip service....but I was thinking of doing a search on line in a couple nearby larger areas and see if Sybian rentals are advertised, you might try the same.

thanks...

amicus...

 

[Liar]

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Well, Liar; I wasn't looking to pick a fight with the thread or even stir up controversy, but if that is what tickles ur pickle, then so be it.

By using the word, 'lifestyle', I suppose I was indeed referring to a change in society in which women live more and more without the company of a man, but still the need for sexual gratification, as we all do.

One of the many thoughts I had, watching the girls and women reach orgasm without the touch of a male hand, although they often stroke their breasts and clitoral area for increased stimulation in addition to the penetration, I was thinking how nice it might be to offer a pair of experienced lips to wander over various parts of the feminine mystique.

amicus...

Not trying to pick fights here. it's too late at night for that. I got class tomorrow.

What fascinates me about some of those things, not only this, but other imaginative self pleasure devices, is that there seems to be so much urban folklorish image surrounding them that I want to call in the Mythbusters. (Now THAT would be an episode to watch.) When all we really are talking about is a new and improved dildo. Or in the case of for instance the Fleshlight (Google it) the new and improved Rosie Palms. it's nothing that people haven't been doing for centuries by hand, or with whatever vegetable they could get their hand on. But as with all things in this age - technology makes it much easier now than ever beforei to get what we want . In this case, off.

But it's like with all things sex, people feel strongly about it, and build a little magic around it for good measures. It's a human thing to do I guess.

 

[floweringquince]

... a change in society in which women live more and more without the company of a man, but still the need for sexual gratification, as we all do.

Ami, I think a great deal of you, and I hope this doesn't come across wrong, because I really don't mean anything about you by it.


But (you knew there had to be a "but", didn't you? , the above put me in mind of an old joke which is still topical:

An attractive young woman decided she was through with men. The heartbreak, and the bother, and the risks, and the whole damned thing, just weren't worth it. Whenever people learned about this decision of hers, they always asked the same question "But what about... sex?"

"Oh, I take care of that myself: I just masturbate."

Women usually nodded at this and went on to some other subject. But men almost invariably wanted to know: "But aren't there times when that isn't enough? I mean, when you just feel like you really must have, well, something more, in order to feel entirely, uh, fulfilled?"

"Oh, yeah, sure, from time to time." She shrugged "But when that happens, I simply fake an orgasm."

Quince

 

[Misty_Morning]

Hi, Misty and thank you....have you tried one as yet, and do you have a comment on the g-spot stimulator attachment, which to me looked quite large for some of those young ladies that swallowed it up so easily?


amicus...

No I haven't tried one but I have viewed many videos of women using one. And personally I would never rent one...the risk of contracting STDs would be too great. That's why there are very few places that you can actually rent one. Several years ago seems like everybody had them for rent...then the lawsuits began.

And I don't think the g-spot stimulator looks at that large. I mean I can make alot of comments about size and "swallowing" it up, but I won't it's too easy.

And just to add gasoline to the fire. I don't want no man's lips on me. I've been there and done that. Now a woman's lip on me while I'm riding the sybian? You betcha.

Plus have you ever thought about all the times when a man can't bring a woman to orgasm? That's one hell of frustrating place for the woman. So thank god for devices like this for all women, no matter their sexual orientation.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Thank you Jen, yes that was the one and down just a few posts I see that Selena claims to own one, ahem....I look forward to her comments should she deign to offer them...smiles...


amicus...

no no no... I don't own one... I said I WISHED I own one!

I found myself as drawn in as you did to sites like the one you stumbled across, Ami... the Sybian seems to provide a level of female satisfaction that seems pretty unparallelled... when you watch those videos, you just know it feels damned good! After I wrote The Sybian Club, I got tons and tons of feedback from people who owned Sybians, women who had ridden them, men who had bought them for their wives... I found out of lots of interesting things about them...

First of all, most women can't stand more than 2-5 minutes worth of a ride at first... the stimulation is INTENSE. Most have to build up to longer rides... but the Sybian is able to provide long, extended, sustained orgasms for women.

Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't make women "not want a man anymore." (if they were inclined to want one in the first place. It usually makes women want sex more... and with their partners. It can be used with a partner as well. Most men very much enjoy watching women ride the Sybian and don't seem to have performance anxiety issues afterward... Flesh is very different from plastic... and it's rare that a woman who has enjoyed the "real thing" will prefer the Sybian all the time.

What, specifically, did you want to know, Ami? I heard you talk about the g-spot attachment... that's one of the great advantages of the Sybian, because it rotates and can stimulate the g-spot for long periods of time, often giving women g-spot orgasms who have never experienced a g-spot orgasm before...

BTW, the vagina, as you know, is quite accomodating... it can take a great deal of stretching. Those young women taking those big attachments isn't such an unusual thing...

 

[floweringquince]

BTW, the vagina, as you know, is quite accomodating... it can take a great deal of stretching.

It takes a whole lot of intense effort, and is extremely uncomfortable, but I hear that sometimes you can get an object the size of a 7 lb baby into (and out of) one.

Quince

 

[Selena_Kitt]

It takes a whole lot of intense effort, and is extremely uncomfortable, but I hear that sometimes you can get an object the size of a 7 lb baby into (and out of) one.

Quince

yep... did that one 4 times... and the last "little guy" was 9lbs 10oz!



but, with a lot of lube, not too much effort and eventually a great deal of pleasure, you can get a whole hand up there...

 

[wickedlady31]

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I scrolled back four pages of threads trying to find the one in which the Sybian machine was discussed and failed to find it; thus this lil effort.

As a caviat, I suppose I should mention, for those who may not know, that I am a totally straight guy who is not very tolerant of sexual preferences other than heterosexual.

Further, which perhaps few have devined, I am barely, if at all, into pornography of any kind, photos or videos or outright kinky pornographic writing. The cable company messed up one week a few years ago and I had five porn channels available including the Playboy channel and did watch a few things that I found rather tasteless and repetitious after several programs.

That being said, the thread that had the discussion about the Sybian machine led me on a search just for my curiosity and so that I would not be uninformed about a thread topic.

I visited several different sites and wikipedia, where" all the way at the end of the article under related links I think, I found "Sybian in Pornography", and the damned site captured me for the better part of a day.

http://www.eonsex.com/?st=2&first=1152495550&cat=Movies&custom=sybian


I also visited a few weblogs and chat sites where Sybian was discussed and commented on, so I am not totally ignorant of the device and it's uses.

My naievete' becomes apparent as I was startled by the number of attractive 18 and 19 year old girls, who for $100.00, took their clothes off and mounted that machine with the camera's running. I suppose some were in the sex trade already, even so, well, maybe you have to spend some time at the linked site to understand my question.

I understood, without actually going to the manufacturer's site, that the Sybian machine costs between $1400 and $2000 US Dollars each and that some have purchased such machines and rent them out for $100 per 24 hours.

I have a ton of specific and non specific inquiries about the entire range of female gratification by machine and lesbian participation in such things that accomodate that lifestyle. But I think I will just present what I have typed thus far and run it up the pole.

Thanks in advance...


amicus the curious...

I want this toy

 

[amicus]

AH, Quince` there is often a 'but', in almost every conversation with you...guess that is the 'tart' part of that lovely lil fruit.

This seems to be developing into one of those threads where it becomes difficult to read and answer each post and there are so many good ones that I hope I don't overlook any before time becomes a factor.

"..."Oh, yeah, sure, from time to time." She shrugged "But when that happens, I simply fake an orgasm."

Quince..."


I suppose that is an area too, where many men often wonder and never know for certain. Another aspect....on the Sybian video clips, there was one little girl, riding about a 6 inch dildo they mispelled her name I think "Allsion" four or five pages into the site, but she had an orgasm, even visibly and audibly 'squirted' on the Sybian and through the entire process, she made barely a sound. Her breathing changed as she became more aroused, but even that, seems controlled or repressed, I found her an interesting study for such things. And another one, a young blonde thing, Jodi, I think, also had an obvious orgasm and never uttered even a whimper.

I remember one bar pick up one night long ago...kept whispering oh, chicky, chicky, chicky, please..yes....yes...and so on....I was so turned off I got out of her bed and left.

As the years went by, I learned more and more how to please a woman sexually, without venturing into pain or bondage and such, as I will not do such things. But I also learned that a major percentage of women are unable to get much pleasure from a sexual experience and that has always disappointed me.

Some of my stories deal with unresponsive women and I postulate any number of reasons why that may be, but then, I am a man, I can't really know these things.

The same with the 'allison and the jodi' girls on the sybian, not a peep during the entire episode but the orgasm was evident in many ways.

As always...I treasure your commentary and sometimes, such as now...I wonder what you are really saying, if not to me personally in your comments, then in general about faking an orgasm with a man.

Smiles...


amicus...

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=Misty_Morning]No I haven't tried one but I have viewed many videos of women using one. And personally I would never rent one...the risk of contracting STDs would be too great. That's why there are very few places that you can actually rent one. Several years ago seems like everybody had them for rent...then the lawsuits began.

And I don't think the g-spot stimulator looks at that large. I mean I can make alot of comments about size and "swallowing" it up, but I won't it's too easy.

And just to add gasoline to the fire. I don't want no man's lips on me. I've been there and done that. Now a woman's lip on me while I'm riding the sybian? You betcha.

Plus have you ever thought about all the times when a man can't bring a woman to orgasm? That's one hell of frustrating place for the woman. So thank god for devices like this for all women, no matter their sexual orientation.[/QUOTE]


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I read some of the manufacturer's comments and of assisting developers in the women's medical field. It was my understanding the hygiene matters were addressed with cleanable surfaces and such but then I suppose not everyone would be tidy after a session.

About the apparent size of the G-spot stimulator. Yes I am well aware that the vagina can be most accomodating when called up to expand. I guess my query came from the age of the girls, 18 and 19, that they showed no signs of having given birth and the vaginal opening, may have indeed been stretched by one or many differing sized penis's and such, but still, it appeared to me something that a young girl might find uncomfortable even with sufficient lubrication. Dunno, remember, I'm a guy.

amicus...

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=SelenaKittyn]no no no... I don't own one... I said I WISHED I own one!

I found myself as drawn in as you did to sites like the one you stumbled across, Ami... the Sybian seems to provide a level of female satisfaction that seems pretty unparallelled... when you watch those videos, you just know it feels damned good! After I wrote The Sybian Club, I got tons and tons of feedback from people who owned Sybians, women who had ridden them, men who had bought them for their wives... I found out of lots of interesting things about them...

First of all, most women can't stand more than 2-5 minutes worth of a ride at first... the stimulation is INTENSE. Most have to build up to longer rides... but the Sybian is able to provide long, extended, sustained orgasms for women.

Contrary to popular belief, it doesn't make women "not want a man anymore." (if they were inclined to want one in the first place. It usually makes women want sex more... and with their partners. It can be used with a partner as well. Most men very much enjoy watching women ride the Sybian and don't seem to have performance anxiety issues afterward... Flesh is very different from plastic... and it's rare that a woman who has enjoyed the "real thing" will prefer the Sybian all the time.

What, specifically, did you want to know, Ami? I heard you talk about the g-spot attachment... that's one of the great advantages of the Sybian, because it rotates and can stimulate the g-spot for long periods of time, often giving women g-spot orgasms who have never experienced a g-spot orgasm before...

BTW, the vagina, as you know, is quite accomodating... it can take a great deal of stretching. Those young women taking those big attachments isn't such an unusual thing...[/QUOTE]


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Hello, Selena...thought I might coax or seduce an response from you, thank you.

As always, many interesting points. The bold face portion adds a little to my thinking, I suppose and is good to see that side of the discussion. And again, something a mere, 'man' couldn't know from afar anyway, so thanks again.

And I gathered from some of the literature that the experience was so intense it could not be endured long and you confirmed that.

And I want to repeat for those who may have passed it by, the link to the Sybian video clip site is not just informative but, ah, kinda fun to watch also and perhaps worth a look.

Thanks Selena...


amicus...

 

[amicus]

Oh. I had another thought, as no one has come forth saying that they either owned one or had experienced one?

Anyone? Or is that too personal?


amicus...

 

[Selena_Kitt]

And I want to repeat for those who may have passed it by, the link to the Sybian video clip site is not just informative but, ah, kinda fun to watch also and perhaps worth a look...

careful.... Sybian porn is addictive! *grin*

 

[amicus]

[QUOTE=SelenaKittyn]careful.... Sybian porn is addictive! *grin*[/QUOTE]

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Ahem, amicus colors slightly, "I noticed that, thank you."

(Grins)

ahhhh...amicus....

 

[amicus]

Oh, and Selena, your lovely suggestion about a 'sandwich', keyed a story for me, thank you for that, yet again.

amicus...

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Oh, and Selena, your lovely suggestion about a 'sandwich', keyed a story for me, thank you for that, yet again.

amicus...

 

[floweringquince]

I suppose that is an area too, where many men often wonder and never know for certain. Another aspect....on the Sybian video clips, there was one little girl, riding about a 6 inch dildo they mispelled her name I think "Allsion" four or five pages into the site, but she had an orgasm, even visibly and audibly 'squirted' on the Sybian and through the entire process, she made barely a sound. Her breathing changed as she became more aroused, but even that, seems controlled or repressed, I found her an interesting study for such things. And another one, a young blonde thing, Jodi, I think, also had an obvious orgasm and never uttered even a whimper.
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As always...I treasure your commentary and sometimes, such as now...I wonder what you are really saying, if not to me personally in your comments, then in general about faking an orgasm with a man..

First, I was only trying to say that just because a woman is with a man, that doesn't necessarily mean she's getting sexual fulfillment out of being with him. Some relationships, and perhaps some men (although I very much doubt that you'd be one of them , just never yield that result.

Nothing more than that.


As to faking an orgasm, I consider it tantamount to telling a lie. Lying is something I will do if I feel I must, but I really hate to.

I have faked orgasms a couple of times with guys who seemed to believe that their manly honor was staked on their making me come; and if missionary-position vaginal intercourse hadn't done it for me by now, then by god they'd keep going with missionary-position vaginal intercourse for however long it took, on into next week if they had to. But only when I really, really needed to get some sleep.
(And that was way back when I was still too shy to play with myself during sex with someone else.)

I've become better at selecting my lovers since then , and I can tell you that I do sometimes have (vocally) silent orgasms, apparently because my brain has just gotten too damned busy or distracted to send any messages to my throat. But (as with Alison & Jodi), there's still plenty of overall shaking, thrashing, grimacing, clenching, and etc. to give my lover some clues as to what's going on

- Quince


(PS. I know I should have PM'ed you by now, Ami. Will get something to you tonight, I promise