Sure In Cold Blood Is A Masterpiece But Is It a Classic?

[Marxist]

http://www.salon.com/ent/masterpiece/2002/01/22/cold_blood/index.html


After re-reading this book I was shocked at how unshocking it is now.

Talk about jaded...

 

[Marxist]

What was my favorite part?

I like the part where Perry talks about putting hair on the walls with his shotgun.

It's so ghoulish and remains shocking.

Where would Ann Rule be without Capote?

 

[Marxist]

Has the New Journalism found its way into every aspect of modern fiction, including written erotica? Or is erotica immune due to its universality?

 

[TN_Vixen]

Where would Ann Rule be without Capote?

Same place Ted Bundy would be without Playboy & Hustler.

Surely you're not suggesting that most violent murderers are that way because of reading a bit of fiction here and there?

 

[Marxist]

There aren't any sexy zaftig chicks in In Cold Blood but there is a lingering air of homosexuality. Is that just because it was written by a man who liked to sleep in a pink teddie?

 

[TN_Vixen]

Hey marxy

last night I watched this facinating account about the portrayal of homosexuality in the movies - dating back to the silent films of the '20's. I really never knew that Hitchcock was such a repressed homosexual.

 

[MissTaken]

Where would Ann Rule be without Capote?

Exactly my thought.

In Cold Blood probably brought bloodlust to the writer's market.

A classic? No.

 

[Marxist]

Surely you're not suggesting that most violent murderers are that way because of reading a bit of fiction here and there?

Nope. I was speaking of the genre of True Crime as an offshoot of In Cold Blood.

You're right. Serial killers are serial killers. Although John Douglas, an FBI profiler, does note they have a thing for detective magazines. Every serial killer seems to have stacks and stacks of this literature.

Weird.

 

[Marxist]

Re: Hey marxy

I really never knew that Hitchcock was such a repressed homosexual.

He always struck me as one. His leading ladies were always beautiful yet cold and distant. Women never really get a fair shake in his films.

 

[TN_Vixen]

Nope. I was speaking of the genre of True Crime as an offshoot of In Cold Blood.

Ah, I see the comparison now. btw.. I like reading Ann Rule. Something about reading the history behind the people that lead up to the murder and after - how they either escape conviction or get convicted appeals to me.

I keep waiting on Ann Rule to do a book on the Chandra Levy situation. I'm sure it is already in the making.

The first book of hers I read was called "Small Sacrifices" way back in the late 80's or early 90's. It is a bone chilling account of a woman who shot her three kids because the guy she was seeing didn't want to marry her because of her children. As far as I know, the woman is still in prison.

 

[SimplySouthern]

I read everything from Ann Rule.

She was friends with Ted Bundy. Ooooh....creepy.

Vixens hot body....now that's a masterpiece and a classic if I've ever seen one......

 

[TN_Vixen]

hi baby girl! (smile)

see? We even like Ann Rule! We're made for each other, come.. run away with me to Tahiti and I'll be your love slave.

;-)

 

[SimplySouthern]

How bout we run to the next room and play "rub the naughty bits together"?

After that, I'll read Ann Rule to you and make a German Chocolate Upside down cake.

Yes, that was a carefully crafted bribe.

Fuck me like the bribing whore I am.

 

[TN_Vixen]

Fuck me like the bribing whore I am.

tease.

 

[SimplySouthern]

No no no, honey. You have that all wrong.

Teases don't follow through. Me, I do.

That puts me in whore/slut class.

 

[Marxist]

Another good quote I forgot about: "I really admired Mr. Clutter, right up until the moment I slit his throat."

Did I mention how ghoulish this real life story was?

It's funny how movies like Kalifornia or Natural Born Killers try to manufacture stuff like this but fall so short.

 

[Marxist]

Other good roadside killer fiction, Flannery O'Connor's "A Good Man Is Hard To Find."

Favorite quote after the killers take care of the misanthropic grandma: "She would've been a good woman if it had been somebody there to shoot her every minute of her life."

 

[TN_Vixen]

No no no, honey. You have that all wrong.

Teases don't follow through. Me, I do.

That puts me in whore/slut class.

Ah, so I can count on you to be here at 7:45 tomorrow night?

 

[Problem Child]

Interesting juxtaposition between the semi-serious analysis of one of the greatest true crime murder stories in literature and the overtly sexual flirtations of two hot southern women who obviously want to ride each other like a midget cowboy on an untamed shetland pony. Or something like that.

 

[TN_Vixen]

PC, you obviously choose to belittle the attraction between SS and I by bringing in midgets and shetland ponies. If I were a member of the ASPCA, I would rag you from here until sundown, but since I'm not, I'll simply say this:

Simply Southern and I could coexist within the confines of midgets, and shetland ponies. We could do it with finesse and class. We could do it in a tree, with a box, alongside a fox and even eating green eggs 'n ham.

Just wanted the point driven home.

 

[Problem Child]

I don't think I'd want to co-exist, or even merely exist within the confines of a midget or a shetland pony, but that's just me.

 

[TN_Vixen]

I don't think I'd want to co-exist, or even merely exist within the confines of a midget or a shetland pony, but that's just me.

See? Just like a conservative republican bitch. Jesus! Can't you just open your mind a little and realize the potential? I mean, damn! midgets have hearts too.. and shetland ponies, well... let's just say they can satisfy on demand, ok? Now, work with me, Mr. Man. heh

 

[Marxist]

One of my favorite true crime novels is "Deviant" by Harold Schechter. It's about Ed Gein and his fetish for making soup bowls out of human skulls.

What is it about Wisconsin and psychos?

 

[Marxist]

Y'know it's funny how every FBI profiler thinks that he's the model for Starling in "Silence Of The Lambs."

John Douglas says he showed Thomas Harris around the facilities while he was researching the novel, as does Robert Ressler.

I've never heard them clear this up in any of their books on deviance.

 

[Marxist]

I've always wanted a thread to myself. This rocks! No one even opens this thing.


Has anyone read "The Nose" by Gogol? A Russian barber is eating a piece of bread and finds a nose inside.

I wonder if this was a partial starting point for "Blue Velvet"?