Supreme Court Slaps Trump Down

*chuckle* What happened is NOT what you think happened. The SCOTUS merely turned away the administrations attempt to appeal a TRO, and TRO's are not appealable. Further, the TRO has expired so the "shall pay" order is moot. Tomorrow there will be a hearing on the issuance of an injunction and the shit for brains judge is expected to order that payments be made again..................BUT.......................injunctions ARE appealable and that will ultimately end up back before SCOTUS. In the mean time the money still resides in the US Treasury.

So what happened in reality is that the administration used a 'stalling for time' ploy to avoid paying the plaintiffs and it worked.

The smiles on the adherents of TDS faces are fading fast.
 
Not really BSG. Read the order. This case was about the validity of Judge Ali's granting of a temporary restraining order which is technically "not appealable." The Trump administration filed an emergency appeal anyway trying to shut the door on suits in inferior federal courts that might number in the hundreds and unconstitutionally shut down the function of the Executive Branch, which courts have no authority to do. Note the administration told the SCOTUS that even if it had followed Ali's ruling they still wouldn't have enough time to comply within the "temporary" time limit of the TRO, which had already expired. The case is therefore moot. The TRO cannot now be enforced.

Knowing this the SCOTUS ruled and ordered the case back down to Judge Ali for the scheduling of a new hearing for a "preliminary restraining order" which is appealable. This hearing will no doubt be scheduled for tomorrow or the next day. As we stand today the money is still in the possession of the Treasury and no payments have been made. That's all that happened in the SCOTUS today. Trump was not "slapped down" in the sense that you would like to see. Judge Ali will now hold a new hearing and make a decision on a preliminary Injunction. Depending on the outcome the case will be properly appealed right back up to the SCOTUS in which we will probably see a different result.

Your Welcome.
 
Not really BSG. Read the order. This case was about the validity of Judge Ali's granting of a temporary restraining order which is technically "not appealable." The Trump administration filed an emergency appeal anyway trying to shut the door on suits in inferior federal courts that might number in the hundreds and unconstitutionally shut down the function of the Executive Branch, which courts have no authority to do. Note the administration told the SCOTUS that even if it had followed Ali's ruling they still wouldn't have enough time to comply within the "temporary" time limit of the TRO, which had already expired. The case is therefore moot. The TRO cannot now be enforced.

Knowing this the SCOTUS ruled and ordered the case back down to Judge Ali for the scheduling of a new hearing for a "preliminary restraining order" which is appealable. This hearing will no doubt be scheduled for tomorrow or the next day. As we stand today the money is still in the possession of the Treasury and no payments have been made. That's all that happened in the SCOTUS today. Trump was not "slapped down" in the sense that you would like to see. Judge Ali will now hold a new hearing and make a decision on a preliminary Injunction. Depending on the outcome the case will be properly appealed right back up to the SCOTUS in which we will probably see a different result.

Your Welcome.
maybe go re-read the ruling.

"the lower courts should “clarify what obligations the government must fulfil to ensure compliance with the temporary restraining order."

it merely clears the way for the district court to compel those payments, presumably if it is more specific about the contracts that have to be honored,”


In the mean time we all appreciate you wanting to fuck over the farmers who grew crops and made investments all based upon getting paid by the Government....good times!!
 
maybe go re-read the ruling.

"the lower courts should “clarify what obligations the government must fulfil to ensure compliance with the temporary restraining order."

it merely clears the way for the district court to compel those payments, presumably if it is more specific about the contracts that have to be honored,”


In the mean time we all appreciate you wanting to fuck over the farmers who grew crops and made investments all based upon getting paid by the Government....good times!!
Still haven't done anything about your reading impairment I see. You really should do something about that.
 
Well...now it's up to Congress.
Of course they do.
No they don't, they don't have legal or practical authority. They made their ruling and that's all they can do. And Trump can give them the finger just like Biden and blue states do all the time.

Only Congress can gut check the executive branch.
 
Still haven't done anything about your reading impairment I see. You really should do something about that.
Still fucking your farmers eh? You should really do something about that, they voted for Trump en mass. They bent over, now there getting "probed"
 
Well...now it's up to Congress.

No they don't.

Only Congress can do that.
It's always been up to Congress.

That's why 47 went on his own to do shit. Because he knew they had no ability to do anything.

Which is why they pass stupid symbolic shit that does nothing.

All a pony show for the maga fucks.
 
It's always been up to Congress.
Yup.
That's why 47 went on his own to do shit. Because he knew they had no ability to do anything.

No, he did it to fulfill promises....now with full backing of SCOTUS he gets to drop this in the GOP's lap.

Which is why they pass stupid symbolic shit that does nothing.

For "nothing" it sure does infuriate the absolute fucking shit out of the right people.

All a pony show for the maga fucks.

Awwww democracy not going the globo-"progressive" way .....not enough "FUCK AMERICA!!" for you hua?
 
Court orders are binding on the POTUS.

Only as far as Congress is willing to bind them.

Defying one would very definitely be an impeachable offense.

Good luck with that......I hope to god ya'll are dumb enough to try that right now, oh even better can ya'll wait about 18 months?? Then try to impeach him for cutting ya'lls bullshit welfare and waste off?? A 75% red Congress and a 45+ red state map would be incredible to see LOL

I can hear you guys now "THIS IS FASCISM!!! WHY WONT YOU FUCKING REDNECK AMERICAN SCUM JUST DO WHAT WE FART SNIFFING ELITES TELL YOU AND VOTE FOR US YOU GOD DMAN NAZIS!! REEEEEE!!!! " LOL 100% totally clueless as to how you're losing.
 
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Yup.


No, he did it to fulfill promises....now with full backing of SCOTUS he gets to drop this in the GOP's lap.
He did it to get ahead of the courts which will slap him down. Weasel.

For "nothing" it sure does infuriate the absolute fucking shit out of the right people.
Nothing except stupid symbolic and temporary shit that will be reversed.

Awwww democracy not going the globo-"progressive" way .....not enough "FUCK AMERICA!!" for you hua?
Article 1 is not only more democratic but also more powerful.

Which is why their inaction is a problem for both parties.
 
Good luck with that......I hope to god ya'll are dumb enough to try that right now, oh even better can ya'll wait about 18 months?? Then try to impeach him for cutting ya'lls bullshit welfare and waste off?? A 75% red Congress and a 45+ red state map would be incredible to see LOL
In the 2026 midterms there will be such a blue wave as we haven't seen since FDR! All the Dem candidates will have to say is, "Give us the power to stop Trump!" They'll win on that alone!
 
Of course they do.
No inferior court has the authority to dictate how the President governs or to assume control over Executive Branch operations. The Executive Branch is coequal with both Congress and the Supreme Court, and its independence is firmly established by the separation of powers in the U.S. Constitution.

Federal judges are strictly limited in their ability to manage, direct, or interfere with executive functions due to Article III constraints. The judiciary is granted the power to interpret the law—not to enforce it or administer executive affairs. While federal courts may issue rulings that impact executive actions, they cannot override policy-making decisions or assume control over the day-to-day operations of the Executive Branch.
 
No inferior court has the authority to dictate how the President governs or to assume control over Executive Branch operations. The Executive Branch is coequal with both Congress and the Supreme Court, and its independence is firmly established by the separation of powers in the U.S. Constitution.

Federal judges are strictly limited in their ability to manage, direct, or interfere with executive functions due to Article III constraints. The judiciary is granted the power to interpret the law—not to enforce it or administer executive affairs. While federal courts may issue rulings that impact executive actions, they cannot override policy-making decisions or assume control over the day-to-day operations of the Executive Branch.
Article 1 constraints are also a factor.
 
When or if this case goes back up on appeal The President will likely prevail in this matter. This suit is brought by individuals and NGOs who are suing for the government for money and breach of contract. These suits are not typically filed in U.S. Federal District Courts. The correct venue for suits of this type is the U.S. Court Of Federal Claims. If this case goes back up to the SCOTUS on appeal it could be thrown out on that ground alone, and I thin that Justice Alito alluded to this as well.
 
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