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Suggestions to the Crucified
by Zack Lieberberg
I would like to bring to your attention just two of the huge number of readers' responses to The Disproportionate Nation. Both were found on blogs where Yashiko's article was reproduced. The first one came from a Russian lady who signed only her first name, Yulia:
You are the smartest nation on earth. You mustn't behave like barbarians. You should find a better, more effective and humane method to fight against those who wish to destroy you.
The other was written by Mr. Walter Murray from Palo Alto:
The death of any child should be regretted by Jews just as much as that of a Jewish child. If you don't hold that view maybe that is part of the problem.
The reason I chose these two comments, out of many, is because I found depth in them that may be overlooked at first reading. Yulia, for example, despite (or because of?) her self-proclaimed intellectual inferiority, expresses an interesting belief. She thinks that Jews have an obligation to be more humane than the rest of the species.
On the other hand, Mr. Murray's attempt to analyze Jewish emotions and stir them into a proper direction implies a perception of superiority, both moral and intellectual, which he chose not to express explicitly, whether out of modesty or, probably, due to the common aversion among the members of Mensa to stating the obvious.
Let us first talk about humanism. You have probably noticed that in the unfolding Iranian nuclear crisis, Russia and China are doing everything they can to impede American attempts to curb the danger coming from the rabid mullahs.
This is not surprising, since the obvious American inability to handle this crisis efficiently erodes whatever little is left of our superpower status and, therefore, serves the interests of our adversaries. But isn't nuclear Iran as dangerous for Russia and China as it is for the United States?
No, it is not, and here is why.
The ayatollahs know perfectly well that the moment Russia or China feels really threatened by Iran, they will survive exactly as long as it takes for the first salvo of Russian or, respectively, Chinese nuclear missiles to reach Iranian territory, which is somewhere between 12 and 37 minutes, depending on where the rockets would be launched from.
After that, the land we call Iran today, will be forever known as the Great Persian Desert and populated exclusively by mutant cockroaches.
The United States, on the other hand, will do everything in its power to avoid any such extremes by adhering to the letter and spirit of international law.
It will, most probably, once again bring the problem of an imminent Iranian threat to the UN Security Council, which is not really famous for the efficiency of either producing or implementing solutions to international crises.
Considering that the United Nations are mostly united in their hatred of Israel and the United States, there is no reason to be optimistic about the probable outcome of such measure, which means that sooner or later an Iranian nuclear device will be successfully tested on our soil.
It's bad enough that the US government will never have the courage to strike Iran before it has a chance to kill a few hundred thousand Americans. Judging from our 9/11 experience, the United States will not respond adequately after the attack either.
The best we can expect from the most hawkish administration imaginable is an attempt to liberate the proud Iranian people from the tyranny of the ayatollahs — provided the United Nations endorses such a drastic step.
If we are lucky, we will manage to eventually plunge Iran into a civil war, like we did with Iraq. If not, we will just suffer yet another unmitigated embarrassment, which isn't really such a big deal, because even a superpower can only lose face once, and we are about to mark the fifth anniversary of that event. In either case, we will give the Muslims proof, once again, that they can attack the United States and get away with it.
Thus, utterly inhumane regimes like Russia and China brilliantly succeed in achieving virtually impenetrable security for themselves without wasting a single life on either side of their border. This proves beyond any doubt that readiness to reduce the enemy to radioactive ashes at the slightest provocation guarantees peace much better than successful efforts of seventy-seven generations of pacifists.
Such is the price of our misguided humanism. If Peace Now had really wanted to achieve sustainable peace in the foreseeable future, they would have achieved more by infiltrating and militarizing the Kach movement.
Let us now address the concerns of Mr. Walter Murray of Palo Alto. He certainly deserves a carefully considered answer. However, I am reluctant to dive into the murky depths of a Jewish emotional response to the murder of children, Jewish or otherwise. Instead, I would like to point out the following:
First, Mr. Murray, has failed to tell us why he expects the Jews to relate to dead children in a different way than, let's say, Ukrainians, Arabs, or, for the sake of argument, Irish Americans.
To me, such an assumption of inherent distinctions between Jews and normal people, just like Yulia's assertion of the superiority of Jewish intellect, reeks of anti-Semitism. Obviously, Mr. Murray has nothing against kikes — as long as they behave according to his expectations. Mr. Murray's granddaddy, most probably, had nothing against niggers — as long as they kept their proper place.
Please, Mr. Murray, don't protest; don't tell us that some of your closest friends are Jewish. If you don't trust my diagnosis, ask some of your closest friends who are black (I'm sure you have some) if they have ever run into a white racist who didn't even suspect he was a racist.
Second, I strongly advise you, Mr. Murray, not to mourn dead children indiscriminately. You will most probably find what I am about to say monstrously cynical, but I am nevertheless going to say it.
You see, the probability that an Arab child will grow up and becomes an Albert Einstein, or Sigmund Freud, or even Alan Greenspan, is equal to the twelfth digit after the decimal point, to the probability that a Jewish child will grow up to become a jihad fighter. Of course, not every Jewish child becomes an Einstein, and not every Arab child chooses a brief but spectacular career of a shahid.
However, Jewish children, if you don't kill them before it's too late, form Jewish communities, and Jewish communities, in addition to producing Einsteins from time to time, are known throughout the entire history of the Diaspora for bringing prosperity to every society that allows them to prosper.
“I will bless those who bless you.”
Unlike Jews, Arabs do not form communities; instead, they form the “Arab street”. The “Arab street” has never produced an Einstein and, I am sure never will. Instead, it is producing an abundance of mass murderers.
The way I see it, the problem does not arise because of the way Jews discriminate between dead children.
The problem arises because of the way you discriminate between them.
More specifically, had you mourned dead Jewish children the way you would (God forbid!) mourn your own children, there would have been no problem whatsoever. But you don't, and this creates an enormous problem, to which you are oblivious, because, in your mind, that problem exists only for the Jews. Let me outline the problem for you.
Seventy years ago, the world idly watched Hitler preparing the Holocaust. When it was well under way; when thousands of European Jews, including children, were dying in the gas chambers of German camps every hour, people like you feigned ignorance and pretended that it had nothing to do with them. Like good Christians, you were busy loving your enemies while your enemies were exterminating us at the full power of their industrial capacity.
You are doing exactly the same thing today. Your enemy is openly declaring its intentions to exterminate the Jews. Your enemy has been openly waging a war of annihilation against Israel since the day Israel was reinstated on a small portion of its historic homeland. Your enemy kills Jews every year — dozens of them during a lull; hundreds during an “intifada”. Most of those Jews are civilians.
Many of them are the elderly. Many are children. All of them are targeted deliberately. What do you do in response? Do you invoke Geneva conventions? Do you express moral outrage? No.
You berate Israel for a disproportionate response; for needlessly killing innocent civilians; for the ongoing occupation; and label Israel, as a result, as the main enemy of the humankind. And, of course, every Jew in the world automatically becomes complicit in the Israeli crimes against humanity.
What innocent civilians? After 9/11, even you should understand that no one is innocent any longer — not you, not me, and, definitely, not those who are trying to destroy us. Look at yourself in the mirror — you are not innocent; you are defenseless. In this war of civilizations, you are a perfectly legitimate target, no matter what the Geneva Conventions tell you, because your enemies do not concern themselves with infidel laws.
What crimes? Since when has it been a crime to defend oneself against aggression? What international law demands that the victim of aggression stop the war when the enemy body exceeds the level at which you still feel comfortable?
What occupation? What “Palestinian people”? Learn some real history. The “Palestinian people” is a blood libel, next to which the infamous Protocols look almost inoffensive. I challenge you to produce a single pre-1967 reference to the “Palestinian people”. I challenge you to name at least one document that gives the terrorist organization you call the “Palestinian people” the legal right to one square inch of territory in Israel or anywhere else in the world.
If you believe — like I do — that innocent people should have a right to live where they have always lived without UN approval, I will have to ask you why you have never protested against the eviction of almost a million Jews from their homes in Arab countries where they had lived for centuries before those lands fell to Arab occupation. I will also ask you what happens to the right of an innocent person to live in the place of his choice after that innocent person blows up a school bus with neighbor's children.
Where was your concern for dead children when Arabs, year after year, decade after decade, kept deliberately murdering Jewish children? Where was your concern for Jewish children when Hezbollah attacked Israel?
Seventy years ago, you were killing us at the hands of the Germans. Today, you are killing us at the hands of the Arabs. Today, like on the eve of World War II, you feel comfortably safe and superior to both the aggressors and their victims.
You shouldn't. After all, you must know that the 6 million Jews killed by Nazi Germany constituted less that 10% of all casualties of that war. But Germans were across the ocean, while today your enemies — uncounted millions of them — have already landed on your shores. How far is your comfortable home from the nearest mosque?
And yet, you continue to confuse non-resistance to aggression with peace. You and your kind, Mr. Murray, are the reason World War II and the world war that officially came to the United States on September 11, 2001, became possible. You are a stupid, immoral, cowardly monster.
How dare you tell Jews how they should feel about their murdered children?
by Zack Lieberberg
I would like to bring to your attention just two of the huge number of readers' responses to The Disproportionate Nation. Both were found on blogs where Yashiko's article was reproduced. The first one came from a Russian lady who signed only her first name, Yulia:
You are the smartest nation on earth. You mustn't behave like barbarians. You should find a better, more effective and humane method to fight against those who wish to destroy you.
The other was written by Mr. Walter Murray from Palo Alto:
The death of any child should be regretted by Jews just as much as that of a Jewish child. If you don't hold that view maybe that is part of the problem.
The reason I chose these two comments, out of many, is because I found depth in them that may be overlooked at first reading. Yulia, for example, despite (or because of?) her self-proclaimed intellectual inferiority, expresses an interesting belief. She thinks that Jews have an obligation to be more humane than the rest of the species.
On the other hand, Mr. Murray's attempt to analyze Jewish emotions and stir them into a proper direction implies a perception of superiority, both moral and intellectual, which he chose not to express explicitly, whether out of modesty or, probably, due to the common aversion among the members of Mensa to stating the obvious.
Let us first talk about humanism. You have probably noticed that in the unfolding Iranian nuclear crisis, Russia and China are doing everything they can to impede American attempts to curb the danger coming from the rabid mullahs.
This is not surprising, since the obvious American inability to handle this crisis efficiently erodes whatever little is left of our superpower status and, therefore, serves the interests of our adversaries. But isn't nuclear Iran as dangerous for Russia and China as it is for the United States?
No, it is not, and here is why.
The ayatollahs know perfectly well that the moment Russia or China feels really threatened by Iran, they will survive exactly as long as it takes for the first salvo of Russian or, respectively, Chinese nuclear missiles to reach Iranian territory, which is somewhere between 12 and 37 minutes, depending on where the rockets would be launched from.
After that, the land we call Iran today, will be forever known as the Great Persian Desert and populated exclusively by mutant cockroaches.
The United States, on the other hand, will do everything in its power to avoid any such extremes by adhering to the letter and spirit of international law.
It will, most probably, once again bring the problem of an imminent Iranian threat to the UN Security Council, which is not really famous for the efficiency of either producing or implementing solutions to international crises.
Considering that the United Nations are mostly united in their hatred of Israel and the United States, there is no reason to be optimistic about the probable outcome of such measure, which means that sooner or later an Iranian nuclear device will be successfully tested on our soil.
It's bad enough that the US government will never have the courage to strike Iran before it has a chance to kill a few hundred thousand Americans. Judging from our 9/11 experience, the United States will not respond adequately after the attack either.
The best we can expect from the most hawkish administration imaginable is an attempt to liberate the proud Iranian people from the tyranny of the ayatollahs — provided the United Nations endorses such a drastic step.
If we are lucky, we will manage to eventually plunge Iran into a civil war, like we did with Iraq. If not, we will just suffer yet another unmitigated embarrassment, which isn't really such a big deal, because even a superpower can only lose face once, and we are about to mark the fifth anniversary of that event. In either case, we will give the Muslims proof, once again, that they can attack the United States and get away with it.
Thus, utterly inhumane regimes like Russia and China brilliantly succeed in achieving virtually impenetrable security for themselves without wasting a single life on either side of their border. This proves beyond any doubt that readiness to reduce the enemy to radioactive ashes at the slightest provocation guarantees peace much better than successful efforts of seventy-seven generations of pacifists.
Such is the price of our misguided humanism. If Peace Now had really wanted to achieve sustainable peace in the foreseeable future, they would have achieved more by infiltrating and militarizing the Kach movement.
Let us now address the concerns of Mr. Walter Murray of Palo Alto. He certainly deserves a carefully considered answer. However, I am reluctant to dive into the murky depths of a Jewish emotional response to the murder of children, Jewish or otherwise. Instead, I would like to point out the following:
First, Mr. Murray, has failed to tell us why he expects the Jews to relate to dead children in a different way than, let's say, Ukrainians, Arabs, or, for the sake of argument, Irish Americans.
To me, such an assumption of inherent distinctions between Jews and normal people, just like Yulia's assertion of the superiority of Jewish intellect, reeks of anti-Semitism. Obviously, Mr. Murray has nothing against kikes — as long as they behave according to his expectations. Mr. Murray's granddaddy, most probably, had nothing against niggers — as long as they kept their proper place.
Please, Mr. Murray, don't protest; don't tell us that some of your closest friends are Jewish. If you don't trust my diagnosis, ask some of your closest friends who are black (I'm sure you have some) if they have ever run into a white racist who didn't even suspect he was a racist.
Second, I strongly advise you, Mr. Murray, not to mourn dead children indiscriminately. You will most probably find what I am about to say monstrously cynical, but I am nevertheless going to say it.
You see, the probability that an Arab child will grow up and becomes an Albert Einstein, or Sigmund Freud, or even Alan Greenspan, is equal to the twelfth digit after the decimal point, to the probability that a Jewish child will grow up to become a jihad fighter. Of course, not every Jewish child becomes an Einstein, and not every Arab child chooses a brief but spectacular career of a shahid.
However, Jewish children, if you don't kill them before it's too late, form Jewish communities, and Jewish communities, in addition to producing Einsteins from time to time, are known throughout the entire history of the Diaspora for bringing prosperity to every society that allows them to prosper.
“I will bless those who bless you.”
Unlike Jews, Arabs do not form communities; instead, they form the “Arab street”. The “Arab street” has never produced an Einstein and, I am sure never will. Instead, it is producing an abundance of mass murderers.
The way I see it, the problem does not arise because of the way Jews discriminate between dead children.
The problem arises because of the way you discriminate between them.
More specifically, had you mourned dead Jewish children the way you would (God forbid!) mourn your own children, there would have been no problem whatsoever. But you don't, and this creates an enormous problem, to which you are oblivious, because, in your mind, that problem exists only for the Jews. Let me outline the problem for you.
Seventy years ago, the world idly watched Hitler preparing the Holocaust. When it was well under way; when thousands of European Jews, including children, were dying in the gas chambers of German camps every hour, people like you feigned ignorance and pretended that it had nothing to do with them. Like good Christians, you were busy loving your enemies while your enemies were exterminating us at the full power of their industrial capacity.
You are doing exactly the same thing today. Your enemy is openly declaring its intentions to exterminate the Jews. Your enemy has been openly waging a war of annihilation against Israel since the day Israel was reinstated on a small portion of its historic homeland. Your enemy kills Jews every year — dozens of them during a lull; hundreds during an “intifada”. Most of those Jews are civilians.
Many of them are the elderly. Many are children. All of them are targeted deliberately. What do you do in response? Do you invoke Geneva conventions? Do you express moral outrage? No.
You berate Israel for a disproportionate response; for needlessly killing innocent civilians; for the ongoing occupation; and label Israel, as a result, as the main enemy of the humankind. And, of course, every Jew in the world automatically becomes complicit in the Israeli crimes against humanity.
What innocent civilians? After 9/11, even you should understand that no one is innocent any longer — not you, not me, and, definitely, not those who are trying to destroy us. Look at yourself in the mirror — you are not innocent; you are defenseless. In this war of civilizations, you are a perfectly legitimate target, no matter what the Geneva Conventions tell you, because your enemies do not concern themselves with infidel laws.
What crimes? Since when has it been a crime to defend oneself against aggression? What international law demands that the victim of aggression stop the war when the enemy body exceeds the level at which you still feel comfortable?
What occupation? What “Palestinian people”? Learn some real history. The “Palestinian people” is a blood libel, next to which the infamous Protocols look almost inoffensive. I challenge you to produce a single pre-1967 reference to the “Palestinian people”. I challenge you to name at least one document that gives the terrorist organization you call the “Palestinian people” the legal right to one square inch of territory in Israel or anywhere else in the world.
If you believe — like I do — that innocent people should have a right to live where they have always lived without UN approval, I will have to ask you why you have never protested against the eviction of almost a million Jews from their homes in Arab countries where they had lived for centuries before those lands fell to Arab occupation. I will also ask you what happens to the right of an innocent person to live in the place of his choice after that innocent person blows up a school bus with neighbor's children.
Where was your concern for dead children when Arabs, year after year, decade after decade, kept deliberately murdering Jewish children? Where was your concern for Jewish children when Hezbollah attacked Israel?
Seventy years ago, you were killing us at the hands of the Germans. Today, you are killing us at the hands of the Arabs. Today, like on the eve of World War II, you feel comfortably safe and superior to both the aggressors and their victims.
You shouldn't. After all, you must know that the 6 million Jews killed by Nazi Germany constituted less that 10% of all casualties of that war. But Germans were across the ocean, while today your enemies — uncounted millions of them — have already landed on your shores. How far is your comfortable home from the nearest mosque?
And yet, you continue to confuse non-resistance to aggression with peace. You and your kind, Mr. Murray, are the reason World War II and the world war that officially came to the United States on September 11, 2001, became possible. You are a stupid, immoral, cowardly monster.
How dare you tell Jews how they should feel about their murdered children?