Stupid fucking Romans.

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*growl*

Of COURSE they can't show me portaits of the lower-class folk. Of COURSE they make more busts than statues, so I can't really discern of guyX is a general or a senator. Of COURSE they start shitty with their sculpture, then make the Greeks do it, then do it themselves, and achieve near-perfection.. and then some stupid emperor comes in and messes it all up cus he doesn't like to be shown as old and wrinkly, so realism gets tossed out the window.


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!~


Fucking art history paper.
 
vixenshe said:
*growl*

Of COURSE they can't show me portaits of the lower-class folk. Of COURSE they make more busts than statues, so I can't really discern of guyX is a general or a senator. Of COURSE they start shitty with their sculpture, then make the Greeks do it, then do it themselves, and achieve near-perfection.. and then some stupid emperor comes in and messes it all up cus he doesn't like to be shown as old and wrinkly, so realism gets tossed out the window.


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!~


Fucking art history paper.

Try Anhknaten and his cult of the south in Egypt.....He decreed that all likenesses of him should be make to portray his true self.

to put it bluntly, he wasn't considered a looker in his day, but the rules applied for his wife Nefertiti, who is considered the standard of beauty in the ancient world is sculped with her full hips and thighs.
 
Re: Re: Stupid fucking Romans.

badasschick said:
Try Anhknaten and his cult of the south in Egypt.....He decreed that all likenesses of him should be make to portray his true self.

to put it bluntly, he wasn't considered a looker in his day, but the rules applied for his wife Nefertiti, who is considered the standard of beauty in the ancient world is sculped with her full hips and thighs.

I WANT the Romans to all be potrayed in verism. They did it for a while (though it was a standard idealized verism, in a way *rolling my eyes), but then one Emperor came in, afraid to ever be shown as old.. bah, vanitas vanitas vanitatorum vanitas est.
 
You are now making me glad that I took the music history class over the art history class for my fine arts elective.
 
The term "near-perfection" assumes there is a final point of perfection.
 
Olivianna said:
The term "near-perfection" assumes there is a final point of perfection.

You're right. I should clarify.

Near-perfection in representing the person. It was almost portrait-perfect, showing every line in the face, yada yada yada.

like a photo. Except in marble.
 
Yeah, well, don't blame me - I have to teach this stuff.

I just like to stress to students that realism isn't so-called perfection (which implies a value judgment), as we are so often lead to believe. The history of art oscillates back and forth - from rational to expressive, from naturalistic to abstract. There is no endpoint or final climax, wherein perfection is reached, though many in the past have thought they have attained a perfect kind of art.
 
vixenshe said:
*growl*

Of COURSE they can't show me portaits of the lower-class folk. Of COURSE they make more busts than statues, so I can't really discern of guyX is a general or a senator. Of COURSE they start shitty with their sculpture, then make the Greeks do it, then do it themselves, and achieve near-perfection.. and then some stupid emperor comes in and messes it all up cus he doesn't like to be shown as old and wrinkly, so realism gets tossed out the window.


GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!~


Fucking art history paper.

Hey!! Well, fuck you too!! What the hell did I ever do to you???

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