Strippers Point a View

[kathy stl]

What did I think about on stage?

Well I only danced, ok stripped Kathy who ya kidding, for a short time. My only good contact was a 35 y/o fem (looked dynamite and men drooled) who had stripped for 15 years, God her feet must have hurt. She knocked em dead, I mean it, she did the eye contact, the expressions and actually danced, didn't just stumble around. She made more money than any of us. But she totally did her grocery list in her head while dancing.

Me? I was you guys dream to be embarrassingly honest. It was erotic for me. I am a real submissive who likes to be shown off, so it was my meal ticket. Ok, not every night. Face it I had bad days. But most sets I would come off and be wet.

What did I think about? Yikes. Lots a things. A fav was me being the last dancer in the place and they locked the doors with me and the wolves. Take it from there. But mostly locking on to a guy, eye to eye and all, and working him, not to rip him off causs I coulda made tons more than I did, but just to have fun. Hey babes, lemme tell ya, squatting down in front of a guy knees up, legs spread and nada on? all of it showing, the back door and all? It turned me on. Never admitted it though.

But I would no way have been able to keep up those fantasies for months or years. The pain in the feet gets to be too much! lol. So sorry guys, if she's been dancing for a while. She's making out her grocery list.

Plus I'm crazey.

OK, the rules? Kellibleu

I danced at two clubs, owned by the same people. And the rules were: we got naked, had to have on one article of clothing, which could be a g string around an ankle, and the guys could not touch us at all, but we could touch them. Of course we let them touch us but not in the places they really wanted to touch. Well, once in a rare while I let em touch those places. But if they did it without permission they were seriously bounced. Even arrested. So don't fuck with it. Typical stage tips were a buck. In the g string, and yeah they got to slip it down the front and hold it there a second or so.

Private dances were thirty bucks, and tip me if ya want me attention. What did I do? I got naked, usually started that way. Straddled his lap, rubbed my tits on his face (no licking), kissed but no mouth to mouth, turned around and rubbed my ass in his lap, bent over and showed it all to him, and even rubbed my hair or face in his lap.

How evil was I? well I tried NOT to let a guy come because then they usually took a hike. I wanted lots more thirty dollar dances.

There was absolutely no prostitution. Best I could tell no dancer ever left with a guy. We were escorted to our cars by guys who just barely failed to make it as NFL linemen.

So it was a lot of show but no go.

The trouble being, every house and every city is different. And I don't know. Read this thread. Places with no booze, pasties, stupid no touch private dances. So ya gotta watch and learn. Don't get drunk and break the rules. Ruin your night.

And guys? like I have said over and over. It's fun, the girls like ya, why not watch? we got what ya want right? I was glad I had it, but don't fall in love and leave the ATM cards at home.

Second only to the feet thing, I quit causs a seeing guys walk out broke. Man I refused to take any more money from some a them. That was when I knew I was history! Laugh.

P.S. I admit, at dawn when I roll over on my tummy and reach down under my hips, sometimes the fantasy is being on stage again. So maybe you guys did hook me.

Love talking. Talk about anything.

 

[R Nitelight]

Love listening.....

 

[kathy stl]

Oh Kell? you are a fem? god I am so bad with these nicknames. Not that it matters Kell. And sure? why would she have been in a strip club Sammy? I wonder if more than one outa ten fems has. (but would like to hear your estimates) Or even if they have they don't get into the lap dances and money side of it. I never got a dime off a fem. Now guys would give them money and I'd get that, but not just a fem alone. I mean, as best I can tell, bi's (which maybe I am) or lesbians have no interest at all in strip shows. It's a guy thing. But tell me if I am wrong?

A sub thread. Do the fems like strip shows? why do they go? do they go? any a you guys take your fems?

Anyway, so Kell is curious. Makes sense. Chill Sammy and have a big wet kiss! Be friends! remem, this is fun, and I will personally come to each and everyone of your homes at the end of the thread and strip on your dining room table. (my heels are gonna ruin that finish)

 

[Ambrosious]

Here comes two cents.

For 14 years i worked as a Dj in "those" clubs...Alright gentlemen, that's Angel on the main stage and you've got Danielle on that satellite stage. Get up off those chairs and slide up to the girl of your dreams and leave your calling card, that is if your calling card has a picture of a dead president on it...Sorry, kinda blanked there for a minute, where was I.

Oh, yeah. I loved my "career" and as a Dj I got a per day pay from the bars and 10 % or 10 $ whichever was greater. Most nights I went home with 500$ or more. I was PAID to throw a party. I've heard of some Dj's that have to pay kickbacks to the bar (read house fee's) but I never have and never would. I could guarantee a 10-20 revenue increase once I took over the mike. Yeah I'm bragging.

The best part of the whole experience was that we were providing fantasies for the customers. Some of our dancers heard the wierdest shit. However, that same weirdness prevented a LOT of men from confessing to their wives their darkest fantasies. The dancer was sympathetic, even faked being turned on by "Chicken lovers" and the customer would search her out time after time. Symbiotic relationship-both ways. We also prevented a lot of lonliness. I worked EVERY holiday I could. The money was incredible. Only got a few men in the bars but DAMN! They spent money so that "she" wouldn't go somewhere else. The looks on those guys faces!

The worst thing? Drugs. I've seen SO many beautiful young ladies turn into mean spirited, haggard, non caring banshees in 14 years that it is actually depressing. Also, for you info guys, yes there are strippers that go home with customers. The majority of them charge-to support a habit. The rest, well sure she went home with you tonight. Do you honestly believe you are the FIRST? AH HAHAHAHAHAHA! See you tomorrow, then. We laughed at these women and called them walking petri dishes.

Also, I got out after somenone slipped me a mickey! The er found 3 times the LETHAL overdose of heroine in my system. I woke up with a tube down my throat and I had had 3 seizures and my heart had stopped twice. I never went back. My wife was NEVER jealous and we have really had to adjust our lifestyle, but I am much happier now. I still don't know if someone purposely tried to hurt me or if it was a case of -- ppsssstttt, let's get the DJ messed up!

Glad I could help. Keep in mind that titty bars are fantasies. The women do things your wife and girlfriend would slap you for suggesting -- naked? for A DOLLAR!!!! Use them wisely and you will never get hurt.

P.S. Never plan a party with strippers as your guest list. They are the most UNRELIABLE bunch of pretty faces. Let's face it, if they could show up anywhere with any sort of regularity, they wouldn't be working in those bars.

P.P.S. Don't even start about the total lack of self esteem. Now I'm gonna get hit by the resident strippers here, but it is true. "Not me! maybe SHE has no self esteem, but me? Puh-lease!"

 

[kathy stl]

I loved reading your post Ambrosious. I didn't work long enough to get to know the DJ's. Or understand how they made money. Frankly, they irritated the shit outta me! That constant mindless patter. Who came to hear that? Which I didn't care about, but, as I'm sure you know, there was no love lost between the girls and the DJ. At least at my club the DJ was more a field sargeant than anything. Trying to get the right girls up on the right stages without missing a song.

Like herding cats!

But being barked at over a loud speaker didn't make him my budd. He never needed to herd me. Jeez, how hard to remember that ya following Suzey on stage 1 and then work the 5 stages till you do it all over? I'm no rocket scientist, but come on. Of course, the girls on coke? yeah, like I said, herding cats.

P.S. Never plan a party with strippers as your guest list. They are the most UNRELIABLE bunch of pretty faces. Let's face it, if they could show up anywhere with any sort of regularity, they wouldn't be working in those bars.

Grrrr! if this wasn't so fucking true I'd be furious! I never saw the girls away from work but it wasn't too tough to imagine what a mess that must be. Listen, juss for the record, I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree but one thing I am is reliable!

P.P.S. Don't even start about the total lack of self esteem. Now I'm gonna get hit by the resident strippers here, but it is true. "Not me! maybe SHE has no self esteem, but me? Puh-lease!"

I'll hit you as soon as you explain this to me? (see the bulb on the tree stuff, I juss don't get your point?)

Thanks for joining in "DJ Guy"!

 

[Samuari]

By the way,

what distirbed me about Kelli's question was not the infromation that she wanted; I thought that she 'sounded' rather immature in the way that she asked. I have seen the results of kids playing with adults, and maybe my 'radar' is set too high. My only intention was to protect someone who aparently doesn't need it. Sorry Kelli, I did not mean any disrespect.

That out of the way, I am really enjoying following this thread. As someone who occasionally gos to strip clubs, I am seeing several different sides that I never even suspected. Please continue.

 

[Ambrosious]

What I meant was that every girl that I have ever seen in the clubs either has no self esteem, or very soon loses what she has due to the profession, turning over her earnings to a boyfriend who then promptly slaps the shit out of her, or because of drugs or alcohol. However, not one girl will admit to this lack of self esteem. They can see it in everyone else, but not themselves.

I love the mindless pratter comment, but I must take exception (stripper wearing off on me) because I excelled at making my girls money. I was and am a part time stand up comedian, so I could really get the crowd into it. Even if it was a playful tease, I would make sure the girls on stage made money. Unless, of course, she stiffed me on tip-out, then she went home broke. Another blow to the self esteem!

P.S. What does a stripper do to her asshole before going on stage? Drops him off at band practice.

P.P.S. How many strippers does it take to change a lightbulb? Just one. She holds it and waits for the world to revolve around her.

AH HAHAHAHAHAHA! I kill me. Whew. That was fun.

Please don't think I'm down on strippers, I've loved 'em every one. Hell I married one!

 

[kathy stl]

I love this place.

Sammy - you know I wasn't burning your ass about Kelli ok? hey I gave ya a big wet kiss.

And Amb? Yeah I can see some "theory" that a DJ works the crowd up, gets guys up to the stage or whatever. Maybe we just had some jerks. Stuff like "hey, say hell yes if ya wanna get fucked!". I mean, no body waz getting fucked. The sober guys were like, what's this 70's shit?, the drunk ones couldn't understand it. Sorry, no DJ ever got a guy up to a stage to spend his money. What I got between my legs got em up there.

Take it as it's meant Amb! in good fun. You burn my ass, I'll try ta burn yours! Laugh.

Hey, you did what? 14 years? jeez, I did like a couple months. What do I know.

Self esteem? hmmmmm, you got me there. I got none. Zero. But that haz nuthing to do with stripping. Whole nuther thread.

Oh and yeah! loved the stripper jokes. Heard a ton of them but, dah, can't remem one. Must be a website for them? There is for blonde jokes I know.

 

[dancinvixen]

Ok, I guess I am one of the few dancers who will admit to a self esteem problem. <g> I look at the girls who dance regularly with me on a friday night and get seriously intimidated because, hey, these girls know what the are doing, and they are damned gorgeous. I love it when a guy can honestly tell me that he prefers talking to me, than with another of the dancers. And yes, I do have a few of those customers. As for my DJ's. Well, I work with three different DJ's. Two of them know me and my moods well enough to be able to pick out the music needed for me to dance at my best. The other one, I always end up having to pick all my music of night, because quite honestly, he will only play what he wants to hear, instead of thinking about the girls who are tipping him out. Tipping a DJ out for means, after every stage, if I make 5 bucks, he gets 2, if I make more, he can get anywhere from 5-10 depending on how much I made off of that stage. And yes, I always tip my dj's after every single stage. And they all know it.
Rules of the clubs. Well, I live in WA, and I work at the topless club that serves alcohol in the whole state. The rules here????
1) If the dancer is undressed the customer must be four feet from her. This includes VIP dances.
2) We do not do table dances, as here they are illegal, what we do are VIP dances, in a different room of the club. An open room, but a different room. Same rules apply here as on main stage.
3) My club has but one stage in the main dance hall. If you are within the circle of green tables<tables with green tablecloths> it is a common courtesy to tip the dancer as she comes off stage. If not, don't expect sympathy if she gets a little upset with you.
4) A VIP dance may not be preformed for less that 10 bucks, most girls up here charge between 20 and 30 a dance, and a dance is one song only.
5) It is a common courtesy to buy a girl a drink, but you must give her the money, as the bar will refuse it otherwise. This is to make sure that none of the dancers are drugged. Also, a drink goes for 10 bucks, and don't get upset, because this is a business like any other. That 10 bucks pays for the drink and also helps to pay for her being there to entertain you.
6) If you leave your common courtesy at home, don't expect an easy time. We are not there solely to bring you wet dreams when you sleep that night. We are also there to make money to support ourselves and families. We do not appreciate being told that you don't have any money to tip, and then watch the next girl come around to receive a 5-20 buck tip. It's rude, and trust me, the other girl will become irate. All it shows is that your a prick and very rude.

 

[Ambrosious]

DJ 101

Never play music for yourself or the girl on stage. Play instead music that the middle aged, balding, white guys know and can sing along to. Sorry, but they are the ones with the money and if you keep them happy, EVERYONE makes money.

A tip for the girls-If a guy tells you he is broke and then spends money on the next girl, it is a polite way of telling you that he is not interested in you. Get over it! Do you want to fuck EVERY guy you see? Neither do we. It just sounds nicer than "Move on sister, you are ugly to me."

I've got a million tips for girls and aspiring DJ's that have proven themselves time and again.

Now that I have gotten that over with, I love this thread and wish we could conduct a class!

 

[kathy stl]

Well Amb, I totally agree that the idea is to make the guys with the money happy. So I'd dance to a polka if it helps. I listen to my music at home, snuggled up on my couch.

And let's see. What else? Oh, upset cause some guy brushes me off? Well like I said earlier, I am one a those zero self esteem gals. But it never got that bad.

And we weren't allowed to drink. First night the "older" dancer I mentioned gave me a tip. Never eat or drink anything that you hadn't broken the seal on or that had been ouside the dressing room. Causs of the drug thing. Too much going on out there to keep your eye on all of it.

But I can't teach a class. Several people here have the experience. But I love shooting the bull.

I do have one "rule" that we had and that always cracked me up. It was the rule that you might tell a guy before a private dance. "I can touch you but you can't touch me." Ok, now go figure. How could I be touching you but you aren't touching me? Is this Zen touching? or what?

Well I knew what it was suppose to mean. But let's face it, when I waz rubbing my tits all over some guys face? I think he felt like he was touching me.

 

[Samuari]

Zen Touching

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I do have one "rule" that we had and that always cracked me up. It was the rule that you might tell a guy before a private dance. "I can touch you but you can't touch me." Ok, now go figure. How could I be touching you but you aren't touching me? Is this Zen touching? or what?

Hey! Finally something that's right up my alley, er kimono... any way come on over and we'll practice. Gotta git it right fer the payin customers.

 

[kathy stl]

Re: Zen Touching

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I do have one "rule" that we had and that always cracked me up. It was the rule that you might tell a guy before a private dance. "I can touch you but you can't touch me." Ok, now go figure. How could I be touching you but you aren't touching me? Is this Zen touching? or what?

Hey! Finally something that's right up my alley, er kimono... any way come on over and we'll practice. Gotta git it right fer the payin customers.

huh?

 

[Samuari]

Zen Touching, wow there's a concept!

 

[kathy stl]

Oh now I get it Samurai! your first post about zen touching. Hey, I'm a dufus dancer, whatdaya want?

Sure, I'll come over and we can practice. But let's do it this way to make the most outa the zen concept.

You imagine me coming over. Then visualize me taking my clothes off. Then get in touch with your inner being to conceptualize my body sliding over yours.

Then get in touch with your "little being" to finish the job?

 

[Samuari]

Oh now I get it Samurai! your first post about zen touching. Hey, I'm a dufus dancer, whatdaya want?

Sure, I'll come over and we can practice. But let's do it this way to make the most outa the zen concept.

You imagine me coming over. Then visualize me taking my clothes off. Then get in touch with your inner being to conceptualize my body sliding over yours.

Then get in touch with your "little being" to finish the job?

Hell it is your concept! The best dancers fuck your mind any way. And you're no dufus, either.

Who did you think that I was imagining? bobtoad?

And what makes you think that its little? It may be,but the best dancers allways say ohhh ahhh its so bigggg.

 

[dancinvixen]

Ambro, in our club, there are certain tables where when a customer sits at them, it is considering very good manners to tipp all the dancers he/she has seen. These tables are the ones right up at the stage. I'm not saying that they have too. Just saying it's common courtesy. Also, if you don't want to tip a dancer because you didn't like her, don't say you don't have any money, there are more polite ways of doing it. You could always say, "not right now" or you could tell the truth, " you looked ok, but I'm really interested in so and so." If you tell this to a girl, especially in the club where I work, the girl you turned down, will be very polite, and will probably head off to get the girl your more interested in. As for music, most of the crowd is military in our place, and they are always asking the DJ, to play the songs that the girls dance to anyway. So the girls wise up and figure out what they dance better to and the customers like. It makes everyone happy that. I have had many customers say that any given girl's choice of music was fitting or non fitting to the way she danced, or what they really wanted. If I don't have any requests from customers, that's when I usually pick my own. But it's always the good stuff. <g> Aerosmith, Metallica, Godsmack, Duran Duran, mostly 80's but still really good.

 

[Ambrosious]

And that is why I never give advice to strippers I work with. They already know the business better than me, even if they have been working 1 month and I have 14 years experience. LOL

 

[kathy stl]

Ya kill me Amb! Yeah ok, so I danced for maybe six weeks and except that I was always on time, knew the rotation, and always tipped out, I was otherwise the DJ's biggest pain in the ass! never sure why.

and DancinVix? well sure, if I liked the music it made it easier. My fav? When a Man Loves a Woman, an old one, Percy Sledge? Slow but I could do a hip thing that stopped traffic outside.

And Sammy? first, I don't have "concepts". Laugh. And the "little you"?

And oh yes sir! I can feel that fat angry thing on my bare ass. Oh please sir, please, don't make me stop, no please one more dance. I need it, it's sooooooo hot, so hard. Gasping, don't leave me alone without it!

Had no idea this thread would be so fun.

 

[Samuari]

And oh yes sir! I can feel that fat angry thing on my bare ass. Oh please sir, please, don't make me stop, no please one more dance. I need it, it's sooooooo hot, so hard. Gasping, don't leave me alone without it!

Had no idea this thread would be so fun.

Just so you don't forget your skills. Love ya kid!

 

[dancinvixen]

Hey, I never said I knew it all. Honestly. I never even tell my DJ's what to do. They usually ask me what I'm dancing to. As for customers. Come on, you have to live by the Golden Rule: Treat others the way you wish to be treated.

 

[kathy stl]

Ya know tons more than me Vix! fer sure.

But here's another experience I had and am sure you guys saw a lot of. It was the "celebrity" girl of the night or a couple nights? Ya know, an ex-Penthouse fold out or some porno queen would come in and get billboard billing for a night or two? The guys all paying ten or twenty bucks extra in cover. The regular girls shut out. Sitting around watching some cunt get all our money.

We could killed those bitches. I'm not sure that we didn't kill some of them?

You guys see that? and hey customers? is it really more exciting to see them than ordinary ol us? be honest.

 

[dancinvixen]

Kathy, we have one of those right now. She's supposed to be the 1995 Hustler centerfold.

 

[kathy stl]

Oh gawd Hustler. Well at least it's a name you recognize. I just had two while I was there, one penthouse (was was a knockout I admit it, even remem her name) and another from Screw or Fuck Me magazine or something. Lost my money to that piece a tash. Not that I'm a beauty queen, but put me and her in a line up and 2 guys oughta a hundred would pick her. An you wouldn't wanna date those 2 guys!

Do you ever see Playboy girl's doing it? That has to be the top of the girlie mag food chain right? They probably don't do that shit.

 

[Samuari]

I allways go for the local gals caus I figger that I'm gonna see em next week too. There are very few "Clebs" that I would pay to see... but there are a few.