Straight people doing gay things

[MADDOG]

After reading a few of the other posts, it seems that a common fantasy of many women is for two guys to interact with each other, and as we all know, most guys love watching girls get it on.

I am straight as a fucking arrow, and I can catagorically state that there is NO WAY, drunk, sober, living or dead, that I would ever get down with another guy. That is strictly the domain of Homosexuals and the bi-curious. (And that's perfectly fine with me - I'm no homophobe)

But here's the thing. Maybe I've just been reading too many stories, but it seems to me that a straight woman is far more likely to have a bit of lesbianic action (most likely upon a guys request) than a straight guy. In fact, I'd venture to say that there would be hardly a straight guy or Earth that would be willing to give it a go unless there was a large sum of money inolved.

My question is, of the people who consider themselves straight, how many of you would be prepared to play for the other team for a night, and what would it take? And am I right that women may be more receptive to it?

Cheers,
MADDOG

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

I wouldn't like to play -- but I wouldn't mind coaching the girl's team.

 

[Eyesdowncast]

From this female's point of view, I agree that it is more "acceptable" for heterosexual women to explore "the other side". I absolutely cannot live without cock, but I do enjoy the occasional bi experience. The thought of my husband having a bi experience nauseates me. Double standard? Yes. But that's just the way it is for me.

 

[Expertise]

Im not sure what it would take for me to cross to the otherside of the plate wander to the other dugout whatever ... probably more money than that teams salary cap would allow.

I always found it interesting how a significant majority of males found two females extremely exciting yet the converse was not true when it came to women wathing two males.

 

[Whispersecret]

MADDOG,

I can see your point. You're straight, no question. You don't want to have sex with another guy, period. I'm fine with that, but I have a question as to where the line would be drawn for you.

From reading many of the stories here, it seems that many women fantasize about being taken by two men simultaneously, not necessarily watching the two men go at it. I find it very exciting to think about two men pleasuring me at once. They don't need to touch each other at all. The sex would be purely heterosexual, just a little weighted on the male side.

Would you be willing to participate in something like that?

 

[Fox]

Whispersecret, that's a very good point, one that i wouldn't mind. It's a fine line in everyone's sand, one that's different for every person.

I think that in the case of a MMF with 2 straight males, it'd be more a case of pleasing her, and I'd be more than ready to do that.

Fox

 

[Barbarossa]

I consider myself to be straight,though i have interacted with other guys in MMF threesomes.That is not to say i've done every thing,nor do I have that intention,but the definitions of straight bi or gay become blurred when in a group sex situation,if you are all trying to please each other.I am safe in my sexuality and not afraid to experiment within it.If this post leds to condemnation well go ahead and condem.Good luck to you.B

 

[Guest]

Okay, look, there's no such thing as "straight people doing gay things"! A person is either straight, gay, or bi and they are BORN that way. It is up to the person to find out who they are in life. A "straight" person who admits they might be willing to try something with another person of the same sex is in fact NOT straight! They are a bi or gay person who had been surpressing their feelings there whole lives. I'm lucky that I found out early on who I was, and that I was strong enough to break through the typical homophobic teachings of society.

 

[Thephantomprincess]

WHOA! Tiggs - Do I sense some heterophobia???

Where I stand -

I hate labels. To me there is no such this as being bi, str8 or gay. Yes, People have preferences for whatever reason. I use the labels, because it is the best way for people to understand what I'm talking about.

I personally, consider myself hedonist. I love to give and recieve pleasure in many forms. I'll take a man or a woman any day, but definitely not an animal. <Yuk!>

People discover what they like at differnt stages. There is no such thing as supressing urges. My "gay" guy friends love to watch male on female porno. As one of them said to me, "sometimes sex is just sex". He meant that the gender of the person you're with doesn't alway matter, what matters is the relationship that comes with it,and/or the fun you're having.

So, there is no such thing as str8 people doing gay things and visa vera. When people are comfortable with themselves, and at ease with thier partners, anything is game. (You have to love yourself before you can love and make love to anyone else)Experimenting is acceptable, and does not automaticly label you one thing or another.

ok, i could go on forever about this...it's a sore point with me....but I'll stop here. Remember, we post on this BB b/c we are open minded and willing to read about fresh ideas.

Princess

 

[Wizard]

MADDOG I totaly agree with you you said it best . Never Dead or alive , drunk sober drugs whatever just is not going to happen !!

 

[Guest]

ROFLMFAO!!! Me, heterophobic? Hardly! Why some of my closest friends are hetero! I adore them and accept their limited choice in lifestyle. And yes, I do believe that some people surpress their feelings. It is very common in the mostly conservative, homophobic society. It's sad that life is this way for many people, but it's true. At any rate, I could go on and on in this topic too, but I won't.

 

[Slut_boy]

I have never had a bi-experience before, but would I? I am not sure but I certainly would not discount it happening under the right circumstances at the right time. I can't see that it would happen with me and another guy alone, but if there was some sexy girl there too, and it felt right for all of us, then yeah, it is possible for me to imagine.

Have you seen the movie "Threesome"?

 

[Thephantomprincess]

Originally posted by Tiggs:
Me, some of my closest friends are hetero...I adore them and accept their limited choice in lifestyle....I do believe that some people surpress their feelings. It is very common in the mostly conservative, homophobic society.

Ok, that limited lifestyle choice thing is a heterophobic statment. Maybe str8 people are happy the way they are. Our society is not necessary homophobic, but made up of a series of social norms. a social norm is a conception that "everyone is doing something". Whethere it be drinking, having sex, or being hetero. It's very hard to challenge people's social norms, because the reality doesn't agree with their schemata. To be accepted, you need to establish that you exist. Slowly, you will become a part of the social norm. It depends how resistant society is to the idea.

I mind you, that if hetero people did not exist, you would not be here at the moment, as you would of never been concieved. It's harder to convince a group of the opposite.

So, in conclusion, Str8 people do go outside the social norms to do unconventional things, and gay people need not be soactivist and essentially closed minded. This Bi girl has said her peace!

Slutboy - Threesome was an incredible movie!

Princess

 

[Golden]

Umm, not sure what we are arguing about here, girls … but to try and answer Maddog’s question … I guess I’d be thought of as str8, because I’ve been married 22 years to a woman …

As a student I did experiment and had a couple of one nighters with by or gay guys; just wasn’t my pleasure really, so I went back to sex with woman because it was more pleasurable … and when I fell in love I kept doing that with women too. Whereas my brother kept falling in love with guys, which was what made me conclude he is gay!

Question is/was, would a str8 guy play on the other team for a night? Well, surely what we are dealing with here is not some matter of principle but a matter of practice .. Like a lot of guys I fantasise about threesomes; and never having had one, I fantasise about both MMF and MFF. The other guy? Would have to be someone I really liked; and yes I’d want to touch and play with his bits as well as hers … I’d want for example to try a DP because the feeling of another prick through the membrane must be fantastic … but this wouldn’t make me suddenly feel I were gay or not str8 … I don’t see the big deal. Some guys want to do an MMF, some don’t; either way that’s cool with me.

 

[Guest]

Well there phantom lady, you need to get your bundled up panties out of your ass crack there. I was merely being facetious when I made my limited lifestyle crack. You need to seriously calm down there.

 

[Guest]

If you'll take the time to scrool up, Golden, you'll notice I did answer Maddog's question. Also, if you notice the name of this topic, it's "Straight people doing gay things". I merely stated that what he was asking was impossible. There is no such thing as a STRAIGHT person "doing" GAY things. (And vice versa...)

 

[Lasher]

Jeez, I'm gonna beat the next person that types "str8". Are we really that fucking lazy?

Btw, Tiggs is right.

 

[MADDOG]

Hey Guys, thank you all for responding.

Whispersecret, in answer to your question, the idea of being one of the men in a MMF threesome is a HUGE turn on - One of my fantasies in fact. I'd prefer it to a FFM threesome. It's just that at no point would I be willing to touch the other guy in an erotic way (except incidental contact - I'm not going to spasm if I accidently brush against "it" while I'm going down on the woman!) I'd love to do the DP thing, and the idea of our parts being seperated only by the membrane doesn't scare me at all. So long as it was all about pleasing you - I'd be MORE than fine with it. And no matter what anyone says, that does NOT make me Bi.

Oh, and Tiggs, I do agree with you in principal, but don't you think it's possible for example, for 2 STRAIGHT people to be in a relationship, and for the guy to ask his woman to participate in a 3some where the women interact, if only to kiss. If she agreed, but did not gain any sexual enjoyment from it (other than the satisfation of pleasing her man), would that make her "Bi" in reality? I would say no.

MADDOG

 

[Lasher]

but don't you think it's possible for example, for 2 STRAIGHT people to be in a relationship, and for the guy to ask his woman to participate in a 3some where the women interact, if only to kiss. If she agreed, but did not gain any sexual enjoyment from it (other than the satisfation of pleasing her man), would that make her "Bi" in reality?

Jeez, Maddog, next thing you'll be saying, "...But I didn't inhale".

Hell, hypothetically you could shoot ping pong balls to China with your asshole, but do you really think that's gonna happen?

[This message has been edited by Lasher99 (edited 05-06-2000).]

 

[Guest]

LoL. At this time I'd like to say thank you Lasher. You have successfully helped to pull me out of my depressive, sad state currently. It really was a bliss to be able to laugh right now. Thank you.

As for Maddog, I think if a person does anything that would "typically" be against their will just to please the person they're with they're stupid. I'm sorry, but it's what I believe. Not to mention the whole concept lable thingy here. If a person is (or claims to be) STRAIGHT (look Lasher, I know how to spell it out, lol) then they could in no possible way become intimately involved with someone of the same sex... even just once to please their lover.

 

[Lasher]

I'm impressed, Tiggs, and you're welcome.

 

[Slut_boy]

I am not sure what the point of semantic disagreement is. I quite frankly don't care whether (in light of my post) someone calls me "straight" or "bi" as a consequence of my posting. The point is that although I haven't yet had a bi experience I can imagine it happening under the right circumstances and at the right time. Those are the facts - call me what you like. The label that you attach to me isn't going to change what I have just said. Why the fuck are people so scared of labels?

 

[MADDOG]

Hey Lasher, not sure I get your point? My question (Not statement) was whether or not anyone felt that it was possible for someone completely straight to sleep with someone of the same sex for someone elses enjoyment and not be considered bi.

MADDOG

 

[Boo]

Hello All:

Okay here is the real deal. We are all potentially and latently bi-sexual. Stripped from its societal and intellectual context, sex is sex is sex is sex. Period. It is only natural to derive sexual pleasure, in its most carnal sense, from whoever or whatever it is that is stimulating you. Of course, we are all creatures of social contruct. Therefore, we make intellectual choices, valid ones, based on all sorts of factors including social norms, social tolerance and desired lifestyles. I choose to have sex only with men at this point in my life. Actually, one man. (By the way, for those of you who don't know me since I mainly lurk, I'm female. ) Being in a monogamous relationship with a man, is a choice I've made because it leads to the other things in my life that I want. Those being a child and a long term monogamous relationship that can be openly held out to the community in which I live and work. I have had sex with women and enjoyed it immensely. As a girl growing up I never considered that I'd be attracted to women but when the opportunity arose, I went with my instinct, and it was wonderful to explore and be explored by a same gender partner. In my opinion, it is somewhat dishonest to make a categorical denial that you could not be turned on by someone who shares your gender. It is not dishonest, to choose, for whatever reason(s), not to engage in same gender sex. But to say that you could not be stimulated sexually by your gender is I think just false. I know that most contributors will disagree vehemently with my opinion on this particular topic, but I still feel strongly that in the absence of culture, raw sexuality would not eliminate pleasure from same gender activity. Of course forces of evolution favor male/female sex. That though is for purposes of propagation and has nothing to do with sexual pleasure for the sake of sexual pleasure.

Boo

P.S. Hi Slut boy: I thought your reply was honest in that it contained no absolutes. And Tiggs, I agree with you but for different reasons. Straight people don't do gay things because there is no such thing as a completely straight person. Given, there are people who choose a straight lifestyle but that is something altogether different.




[This message has been edited by Boo (edited 05-07-2000).]

 

[Whispersecret]

When you add "phobic" to the end of a word, it generally means "afraid of". So, "heterophobic" would mean "afraid of heterosexuals". Lately, phobic also implies some sort of intolerance or even hatred. But from her posts, Tiggs doesn't strike me as intolerant (of anything sexual) or hateful toward straight people. <shrugs>

"Whispersecret, in answer to your question, the idea of being one of the men in a MMF threesome is a HUGE turn on - One of my fantasies in fact. I'd love to do the DP thing...So long as it was all about pleasing you - I'd be MORE than fine with it."

Heh heh. <checks her plan book> What weekend is good for *you*?