story rejected

[Bethany85]

Hi I posted my first story recently and it was rejected. The only reason I can think of was that it was about schoolgirls and their teacher.
It is just a fantasy and obviously not real.
Do you think that was why it was rejected? Also don't you think the insest stuff is worse than that if that was the reason

 

[Firebrain]

Characters engaging in sexual acts need to be eighteen in Lit stories. If you did not clarify that your characters were eighteen, this may well be the reason.

I believe if you click on the "rejected" word then it should give you a reason of sorts.

You can always ask a Literotica editor to take a look if you still can't work out why.

 

[sr71plt]

Hi I posted my first story recently and it was rejected. The only reason I can think of was that it was about schoolgirls and their teacher.
It is just a fantasy and obviously not real.
Do you think that was why it was rejected? Also don't you think the insest stuff is worse than that if that was the reason

The system tells you why it's rejected. Start from what they told you (which isn't always all that clear). If it was perceived to be about schoolgirls younger than 18 (thus younger than college), yes it will be rejected. 18 is a strict age cutoff here.

 

[Sengoku]

Just state at the start of the story that all characters involved in any sexual situations are over 18. That way you won't have to change the content, unless you stated in the story that some of the characters having sex are under 18.

 

[sr71plt]

Just state at the start of the story that all characters involved in any sexual situations are over 18. That way you won't have to change the content, unless you stated in the story that some of the characters having sex are under 18.

A story about schoolgirls and their teacher? Do you think the editors will be fooled by that sleazy approach to the issue?

 

[PennLady]

A story about schoolgirls and their teacher? Do you think the editors will be fooled by that sleazy approach to the issue?

Perhaps not, but I've encountered one or two stories on here that do have characters under 18 in sex scenes and it wasn't caught. I figure that's just due to the number of stories that are submitted; something's bound to fall through.

On the other hand, if you can't specify in the story that the characters are 18, and seniors in high school, or college freshmen, than you're just being lazy.

 

[sr71plt]

Perhaps not, but I've encountered one or two stories on here that do have characters under 18 in sex scenes and it wasn't caught. I figure that's just due to the number of stories that are submitted; something's bound to fall through.

On the other hand, if you can't specify in the story that the characters are 18, and seniors in high school, or college freshmen, than you're just being lazy.

That's because they weren't caught, not because "wink, wink" they were seen and because the author was just being sneaking about it, they were left.

 

[Sengoku]

A story about schoolgirls and their teacher? Do you think the editors will be fooled by that sleazy approach to the issue?

Perhaps not, but I've encountered one or two stories on here that do have characters under 18 in sex scenes and it wasn't caught. I figure that's just due to the number of stories that are submitted; something's bound to fall through.

On the other hand, if you can't specify in the story that the characters are 18, and seniors in high school, or college freshmen, than you're just being lazy.

Yes they can be 18-year-old seniors in high school, that's legal. I think that's what Bethany85 was posting about anyway. If the writer just left the ages up to the reader, that would be breaking the rules because they're classified as school girls.

 

[Bethany85]

Hi, yes thanks for all the posts but I was just checking wondering that if I put in the story that they were in the last year of school and therefore 18 would that be enough?

 

[nomoretears00]

last year of school

Well, here's the thing... My son is a Senior this year. He won't be 18 until *after* graduation. He has a summer birthday. Same thing will happen with my daughter. So, just because your characters are in their *last* year of school doesn't mean that they are the required age of 18 for Lit. Just state their age's and that'll solve the problem, lol. Hope that helps.

 

[baphemetis]

A story about schoolgirls and their teacher? Do you think the editors will be fooled by that sleazy approach to the issue?

It's not about "fooling" anyone and I see nothing sleazy about such a statement. There are plenty of American companies that bring to the U.S. adult anime in which age is ambiguous by doing exactly this. Sometimes the setting is changed from a high school to a junior college or explicit statements are made that the characters are over 18.

The poster is not trying to fool or deceive anyone. Rather, the advice was given as a possible way to comply with Lit's rules. Some have speculated that Lit has such rules as a CYA approach. If this is the case, the disclaimer would seem to be a good idea.

 

[baphemetis]

Hi, yes thanks for all the posts but I was just checking wondering that if I put in the story that they were in the last year of school and therefore 18 would that be enough?

This was discussed in another thread. I can't find the official hard and fast rule, but this is what another member stated:

t's important to note that in non-fictional celebrity cases high school seniors are always 18 according to lits rules.

but I can't find the specific rule he's citing.

 

[PacoFear]

Here's your rule. It's #3 of Lit's Submission Guidelines here: http://www.literotica.com/subguide.shtml

3. No sexual activity involving bestiality (you can write stories about supernatural beasts like ghosts, unicorns, werewolves, etc.) or underage persons will be considered. For the purposes of this site, the minimum legal age is 18. This site does not publish stories, articles, essays, or other material supporting, encouraging, or defending child abuse and/or exploitation.

 

[SimoneLisbon]

You're right & wrong at the same time

Here's your rule. It's #3 of Lit's Submission Guidelines here: http://www.literotica.com/subguide.shtml

The easiest way to fix the issue is to add a disclaimer at the beginning. I had the same issue with my first posting, a teacher/student story as well. My characters met when she was in the sixth grade and he was her teacher. I reworked the story making mention that nothing sexual happened until the student was 18 and kept submitting it and it got rejected each time. In the end, I figured out the disclaimer part, added it to the 3rd incarnation of the story and didn't change another word...I've posted my 4th part to this series now.

As to incest being worse, I see that too...Often in the parent/child the author mentions that they've known their child since birth...But Lit has their rules for a good reason...

http://www.literotica.com/s/the-other-kelly-taylor my disclaimer is the first line of the piece...

 

[sr71plt]

The poster is not trying to fool or deceive anyone.

Sorry, as written, the poster was trying to do exactly that, in my opinion.

What you described are characters that are two young to be in stories here. That's what you need to change--the core of your story. To be looking for ways to get around the rules on underage characters in sexual situations is, in my opinion, sleazy. That's my opinion.

 

[DarianBlack]

Make the teacher a professor, and the students collegian, and there ya go.


High school kids are stupid anyways, even seniors. <_<' Y'know how the sex was back then? Unsatisfying

 

[baphemetis]

What you described are characters that are two young to be in stories here. That's what you need to change--the core of your story. To be looking for ways to get around the rules on underage characters in sexual situations is, in my opinion, sleazy. That's my opinion.

Well you're certainly entitled to that. I won't begrudge you that.

However, "schoolgirls" is not exclusive to minors. College co-eds might be referred to as "schoolgirls", for example. If the "schoolgirls" in the story are high school juniors, it wouldn't kill her story to state that they are seniors instead.

If they are too young to pass for high school seniors or college co-eds, then you're right, the core of her story would have to be changed. I would advise against this. Instead of rewriting (and in many cases, essentially gutting) the story, I suggest publishing it elsewhere.

There are plenty of sites that will allow this type of content. Stories Online and alt.sex.stories are among them. There is a web page for alt.sex.stories, ASSTR that will allow authors to post their stories for free. Stories Online has an interface and voting mechanic similar to Literotica, sans the censorship.

Hope this helps!

 

[baphemetis]

Here's your rule. It's #3 of Lit's Submission Guidelines here: http://www.literotica.com/subguide.shtml

I'm familiar with that and nowhere does it state that high school seniors are automatically considered to be over 18. That's the rule that a previous poster referenced that I'm trying to find.

 

[sr71plt]

Well you're certainly entitled to that. I won't begrudge you that.

However, "schoolgirls" is not exclusive to minors.

Nope. "Schoolgirls" does evoke high school and younger--and I believe, when used, it's a signal for underage. The recognizable signal term for college girls is "coeds." To continue rationalizing this is all just an attempt to circumvent the rules here, which are in place to protect all of those of us who post here.

If an author wanting to use "schoolgirls/teacher" can't, in his or her mind and on the page, substitute "coed/professor" and get the desired buzz, they are playing the underage fetish.

You mentioned other Web sites that permit underage. The obvious answer is to post your underage stories there rather than here--and rather than try to rationalize this Web sites rules away.

 

[PennLady]

Well, here's the thing... My son is a Senior this year. He won't be 18 until *after* graduation. He has a summer birthday. Same thing will happen with my daughter. So, just because your characters are in their *last* year of school doesn't mean that they are the required age of 18 for Lit. Just state their age's and that'll solve the problem, lol. Hope that helps.

Yeah. I graduated high school at 17, and didn't turn 18 until the following January, during my freshman year at college, so using "high school senior" is no guarantee of the age.

Is it really so hard to put in a disclaimer before the story? Or just work in their ages in the text of the story?

And if the girls being under 18 is crucial then I agree with sr71 -- post elsewhere.

 

[baphemetis]

Nope. "Schoolgirls" does evoke high school and younger--and I believe, when used, it's a signal for underage.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines schoolgirl simply as "a girl attending a school". One definition of girl is "a young unmarried woman".

That means a young woman in trade school, culinary school, pipe-fitting school or drill sergeant school could be considered a "schoolgirl" by that definition.

Now to say the phrase evokes under-age imagery or may signal to readers that this story features underage content may be true. However, without reading this particular story, we can only speculate.

The recognizable signal term for college girls is "coeds." To continue rationalizing this is all just an attempt to circumvent the rules here, which are in place to protect all of those of us who post here.

I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with where it's been stated that the rules are in place for the protection of the posters. Has that officially been stated? If so, could you please share a URL?

My suspicion is that the rule merely reflects the tastes of the web site owners. My guess is that they find these stories distasteful and choose not support them for this reason.

Also, what do you think posters are being protected from?

You mentioned other Web sites that permit underage. The obvious answer is to post your underage stories there rather than here

It appears we see eye to eye on this one. I agree that it is better to leave Literotica and post your work on a Web site that will allow stories to be posted uncensored. Tell the story you want to tell, not a story that reflects someone else's idea of right and wrong.

 

[sr71plt]

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines schoolgirl simply as "a girl attending a school". One definition of girl is "a young unmarried woman".

That means a young woman in trade school, culinary school, pipe-fitting school or drill sergeant school could be considered a "schoolgirl" by that definition.

Now to say the phrase evokes under-age imagery or may signal to readers that this story features underage content may be true. However, without reading this particular story, we can only speculate.



I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with where it's been stated that the rules are in place for the protection of the posters. Has that officially been stated? If so, could you please share a URL?

My suspicion is that the rule merely reflects the tastes of the web site owners. My guess is that they find these stories distasteful and choose not support them for this reason.

Also, what do you think posters are being protected from?



It appears we see eye to eye on this one. I agree that it is better to leave Literotica and post your work on a Web site that will allow stories to be posted uncensored. Tell the story you want to tell, not a story that reflects someone else's idea of right and wrong.

You need to take this up with the site owners, I guess. They knew what they didn't want. They rejected the story.

You haven't convinced me that suggestions on how to get around their rule--or how to rationalize it away--aren't sleazy.

 

[Bethany85]

I would just like to make it clear as the author of the story in question that I didn't intend the said schoolgirls to be underage at all, and to be honest I hadn't even thought of the ages until the story was rejected cos I assumed they were over 16 (legal age in uk) but I am happy to put a disclaimer in my story stateing they are over 18.

 

[Tyro999]

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines schoolgirl simply as "a girl attending a school". One definition of girl is "a young unmarried woman".

Merriam-Webster, .com or in print, be damned. Like all other internet websites, the "Golden Rule" applies here. In this case, defined as "He who has the gold makes the rules." Laurel and Manu have made the rules for literotica, and are the sole judges of defining your compliance with them.

They decided that the age of one of your characters was unclear, and could be taken for being under 18 and sexually active - a long standing no-no on Lit. Either accept that decision, fold your tent and decamp for a looser story site, or edit your story to put an "All characters in this story are over 18." disclaimer in.

As it is, all you have done with your posts in this thread is make yourself out to be a clueless idiot -- over and over again with each post you make.

[I am just a Lit reader not a writer, and an interloper here; but as a reader you have convinced me that I would have no interest in reading anything you have written & posted anywhere. Clueless idiots are a dime-a-dozen, even if they are writers also.]

 

[Bethany85]

As it is, all you have done with your posts in this thread is make yourself out to be a clueless idiot -- over and over again with each post you make.

I have only made a few posts to find out what people thought and I have taken it on board. There is no need to be rude about it! And to be honest knowing that you are a reader and not a writer makes me glad that you choose not to view my stories in future since it purely means you will be missing out.