Story events order opinion

[Alice_Angel]

So I'm planning a new series of stories involving a married woman getting reluctantly getting involved in an affair and being pushed further and further into doing things she's never done, things getting riskier, etc. I was looking for some feedback/opinions on the order some of the events should take place what I'm thinking goes something like this

Dressing sexy > restraints > blindfold > (combo) > anal > outdoor sex > cumming inside (condom sabotage) (no more pulling out/condoms) > pregnancy reveal > establish guy as Master/Daddy > ass licking > piss drinking > piercing > outside date/field trip(mild) > public humiliation > sex with strangers (blindfolded) > outside field trip (hardcore)(sex with strangers not blindfolded?) > tattoo

Each of these would be it's own chapter, with possible other chapters, but I'm curious what other people think of the order of events and what order other people think they should happen in. Please tell me your thoughts.

 

[TheRedChamber]

Im kind of struggling with the same thing myself (less extreme though - going from same room swinging to MFF to MFM to first gay experience to pegging to MMF) It can be hard getting all your fucks in a row.

I think the important thing is to make sure you have a good story to tell for each one. Once you've got the general shape of a story write it and see what the prerequisites for that story happening are and what the anti-requisites are.

So eg you cant really do pegging after your've done full gay bottoming. On the other hand if your male character has already sucked cock, it puts the pegging in a different context than.if the thought has never crossed his mind.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Most of those I would leave out.

Like almost all of them.

 

[Wonderer67]

So I'm planning a new series of stories involving a married woman getting reluctantly getting involved in an affair and being pushed further and further into doing things she's never done, things getting riskier, etc. I was looking for some feedback/opinions on the order some of the events should take place what I'm thinking goes something like this

Dressing sexy > restraints > blindfold > (combo) > anal > outdoor sex > cumming inside (condom sabotage) (no more pulling out/condoms) > pregnancy reveal > establish guy as Master/Daddy > ass licking > piss drinking > piercing > outside date/field trip(mild) > public humiliation > sex with strangers (blindfolded) > outside field trip (hardcore)(sex with strangers not blindfolded?) > tattoo

Each of these would be it's own chapter, with possible other chapters, but I'm curious what other people think of the order of events and what order other people think they should happen in. Please tell me your thoughts.

I like the idea of a separate chapter to see how the story unfold and how the character evolves sexually and falls deeper under the control of her partner.

Be interesting to really get a feel for her mindset and how she handles this life vs her married life.

 

[Alice_Angel]

I like the idea of a separate chapter to see how the story unfold and how the character evolves sexually and falls deeper under the control of her partner.

Be interesting to really get a feel for her mindset and how she handles this life vs her married life.

The general idea is the typical she's a good wife/loves her husband, but isn't getting the attention she used to from him (and of course the new lover has a bigger dick ). She's coerced/blackmailed into reluctantly agreeing to the relationship, but over time becomes more accepting and is pushed deeper into doing things she's not really comfortable with and doesn't even realize that her new lover has plans to turn her into his personal whore/steal her away from her husband, etc.

Not really sure about really writing two separate lives and how she handles them so much as focusing on her relationship with her new lover/her descent into his plans for her and a bit of her trying to hide it from her husband (who is either oblivious, or knows but is too much of a coward to confront her)

There will definitely be aspects of both her and her new lover's mindsets though.

 

[LoneMilf]

The order seems to mostly make sense.

However, I would definitely put restraints later (requires a lot of trust) - or maybe have a milder and a more serious version. In any case it goes after blindfold.

Also, rimming and piss drinking are two very different things. One is somewhat similar to oral sex while the other is purely for humiliation. I would put piss drinking later.

Enjoy the writing

 

[Alice_Angel]

The order seems to mostly make sense.

However, I would definitely put restraints later (requires a lot of trust) - or maybe have a milder and a more serious version. In any case it goes after blindfold.

Also, rimming and piss drinking are two very different things. One is somewhat similar to oral sex while the other is purely for humiliation. I would put piss drinking later.

Enjoy the writing

Part of the idea is for the new lover to be someone she's known a long time and trusted (makes it easier for them to get close/coerce/blackmail the wife, also helps explain how she becomes more accepting of her situation) so the restraints are a bit of 'let's have some kinky fun' that can also be worked into later chapters, like she's restrained so she has no choice but to accept him sitting on her face or she's restrained and blindfolded so she doesn't realize he's brought in someone else and once she does realize she can't do anything about it and won't even know who the person was (as long as they keep quiet) forcing her to wonder.

It's also a general guideline for other possible similar stories so for those stories I might consider restraints for later.

Thanks for the feedback

Will definitely consider your advice though and probably put piss drinking after rimming.

 

[TheRedChamber]

Also, rimming and piss drinking are two very different things. One is somewhat similar to oral sex while the other is purely for humiliation. I would put piss drinking later.

Strong disagree. Anything can be humiliating if thats how you present it, but watersports can be intimate as well.

 

[LoneMilf]

Strong disagree. Anything can be humiliating if thats how you present it, but watersports can be intimate as well.

Fair point. We're all different

 

[Alice_Angel]

Strong disagree. Anything can be humiliating if thats how you present it, but watersports can be intimate as well.

That's kind of how I was looking at it. I think both are humiliating, but when I consider the porn I've looked at I would say that rimming is becoming more common and happens more with other regular sex acts like it's becoming normal. Piss drinking is usually more rare and is considered more of a fetish/humiliation thing and is probably done with rimming and other sex acts.

In other words it does seem like more of an escalation than rimming, if only for fictional story purposes.

Plus if you look at it by swapping roles, guys pretty much don't care for the most part, they'll lick any part of a woman's body without question. But drink a woman's pee?

 

[TheRedChamber]

But drink a woman's pee?

I would and have and would again. I suspect F2M might be actually more common that M2F.

(but I wouldnt like to be the researcher trying to get those statistics)

 

[Actingup]

Most of those I would leave out.

Like almost all of them.

I guess it's subjective, but, if we take the attitude that different things are different turn-ons / turn-offs to different people at some point you need to consider whether including every thing in that list will leave only five people reading until the end. I know that I would stop reading at #5, 'cause it just doesn't appeal to me, whereas a couple of the later ones might be okay... so how would I be sucked back in to the story if I skip a chapter or ten?

 

[Alice_Angel]

I guess it's subjective, but, if we take the attitude that different things are different turn-ons / turn-offs to different people at some point you need to consider whether including every thing in that list will leave only five people reading until the end. I know that I would stop reading at #5, 'cause it just doesn't appeal to me, whereas a couple of the later ones might be okay... so how would I be sucked back in to the story if I skip a chapter or ten?

That's a fair point, but A) this is a guide for possible use with multiple stories, anything on there could apply or be removed as needed. And B) Frankly I don't much care if people don't like every chapter or stop reading at some point. The writing of this story would be more for myself and my own personal desire to see/write/enjoy creating such a story. For one I haven't found a similar story that comes close to what I intend to write (maybe I just haven't bothered digging through multiple pages of search results). But also, I frankly don't especially care if people don't enjoy a particular chapter or quit reading altogether. I'm curious to see how people respond to my stories. If they like them, great! If not, oh well, I enjoyed writing them and shared them just so other people might enjoy and to get an idea if what I write might be considered good.

In the end I'll include whatever I think would be interesting and will 'get me off'

 

[HordHolm]

Looking at the order of sex acts you are contemplating it all seems pretty reasonable, however I would take it from the perspective of the character. Is there an order which is natural for the character to submit to - rather than, e.g, say, "publish and be damned!" because it is too much, too soon? You know the character, you have a backstory for the character in mind, you have an image of the character's previous activity and her fantasy world - what would she eagerly submit to, what would she reluctantly submit to, what would she run screaming from? If you place her in what she feels is too extreme a situation too quickly would it seem unnatural for the character to submit?

 

[TheRedChamber]

I wouldnt be too worried about your fetish list, by the time you get to watersports and breeding nothing else is going to particularly squick your extreme fans. (I dont care for tattoos and piercing in real life as I like my ladies pristine but its not going to stop me reading)

Condom sabotage sounds morally reprehensible but for me it'll depend on whose doing it - I like a good fictional babytrapping bitch, less so a bastard. The only issue is how pregnant you want her to be through the rest of the story/fetish list (Im guessing 'a lot')

 

[Alice_Angel]

Looking at the order of sex acts you are contemplating it all seems pretty reasonable, however I would take it from the perspective of the character. Is there an order which is natural for the character to submit to - rather than, e.g, say, "publish and be damned!" because it is too much, too soon? You know the character, you have a backstory for the character in mind, you have an image of the character's previous activity and her fantasy world - what would she eagerly submit to, what would she reluctantly submit to, what would she run screaming from? If you place her in what she feels is too extreme a situation too quickly would it seem unnatural for the character to submit?

Kind of the whole point of the story is to slowly push/extend the boundaries of what she's comfortable with. Eventually she's made to submit to him completely and basically become his slave, so by then it's not really important what she's comfortable with though I don't intend to 'post and be damned'. I intend it to be a gradual , enjoyable escalation/descent.

 

[Alice_Angel]

I wouldnt be too worried about your fetish list, by the time you get to watersports and breeding nothing else is going to particularly squick your extreme fans. (I dont care for tattoos and piercing in real life as I like my ladies pristine but its not going to stop me reading)

Condom sabotage sounds morally reprehensible but for me it'll depend on whose doing it - I like a good babytrapping bitch, less so a bastard. The only issue is how pregnant you want her to be through the rest of the story/fetish list (Im guessing 'a lot')

A) it's not so much watersports as simple humiliation (his dick is already in her mouth/down her throat so he urinates and makes her swallow)

B) I don't mind a little body piercing/tattoos, but nothing super crazy. In this case it would be mostly a show of 'your body is mine and I'll do what I want' display of ownership/power/humiliation. Plus the idea of 'what about her husband?/how does she explain her new piercings/tattoo to him?'

C) I agree, condom sabotage would be morally reprehensible, but we are talking about a work of fiction here, and fictionally I find the idea a turn on, not something I would ever do IRL. Also the male character will want to get the woman pregnant but there's no way she would agree so how else would he get her knocked up than 'oops, it looks like the condom broke' (especially if they usually have rough sex and he could claim it was because they were just too rough)

D) I'm thinking of having some time pass between each chapter, suggesting they've been meeting up in between chapters, but each new chapter is another step in her descent. That doesn't necessarily mean a lot of time, though it could always vary. I really don't plan for it to say too much time has passed between each chapter, but enough for it to be reasonable whatever they did the last time is a normal part of their routine and it's not unreasonable for him to try to push her limits a little further.

There's also a whole nine months for her to be pregnant before giving birth and I actually don't intend a lot of time to pass between chapters after she becomes pregnant. Her becoming pregnant with his child would basically solidify their relationship in a new way and (at least in his mind) cement his ownership of her. Which is why the next chapter is the 'establish him as Master' chapter. Basically after that she's accepted her role (maybe not fully, more interesting if she still shows some resistance) as his sub/slave. Further chapters would push her more into doing things she probably wouldn't have been willing to do before, but again, with slow escalation. Wouldn't be very interesting to just be like 'well I own you now, you'll do whatever I say, let's have an orgy's but it could be interesting to build up to that. Personally even more interesting if she's made to start having sex with other men but they don't know she's already pregnant (because she's not showing yet) and they're each trying to knock her up/later convince themselves they're the father of her child.

One thing about my writing is that I've seen a lot of stories that I was disappointed with for various reasons. The premise sounded good, but like people have said, some chapter involved things that I wasn't interested in or, more often I just found unrealistic, or the story was just poorly written. Therefore I strive to make my stories well written and within what I would consider a realm of believability. I usually also try to skip as much boring back story and BS as I can and quickly get to the juicy parts, though this one will probably take more buildup. Still even once the two become involved I want to make the whole story as realistic as possible with just enough time passing (with it mentioned that there have been other encounters between chapters) for the escalations to not seem to quick and for it to be like 'x amount of weeks had passed and they had continued their liaisons...' with the possibility of months passing pre pregnancy, but probably not nearly that long, and less time passing after she becomes pregnant but still enough it doesn't feel too rushed/unrealistic. Plus I feel once he feels his ownership of her is solidified he probably would push her a bit faster and she wouldn't have much choice but to accept whatever he decides to make her do. (He could film their encounters for one thing and threaten to reveal everything to her husband)

 

[TheRedChamber]

Ok, sounds like you know what you want (if not necessarily the order you want it in). It sounds a bit too ahole dom for me but if this thread has shown anything its that we all have different tastes

 

[Bazzle]

So I'm planning a new series of stories involving a married woman getting reluctantly getting involved in an affair and being pushed further and further into doing things she's never done, things getting riskier, etc. I was looking for some feedback/opinions on the order some of the events should take place what I'm thinking goes something like this

Dressing sexy > restraints > blindfold > (combo) > anal > outdoor sex > cumming inside (condom sabotage) (no more pulling out/condoms) > pregnancy reveal > establish guy as Master/Daddy > ass licking > piss drinking > piercing > outside date/field trip(mild) > public humiliation > sex with strangers (blindfolded) > outside field trip (hardcore)(sex with strangers not blindfolded?) > tattoo

Each of these would be it's own chapter, with possible other chapters, but I'm curious what other people think of the order of events and what order other people think they should happen in. Please tell me your thoughts.

Wouldn't the pregnancy reveal be the last thing?
Leaving you with "whose the daddy?"

 

[Alice_Angel]

Also, I intend for the first few chapters to be a bit of seduction on his part. For one thing as I previously mentioned she hasn't been getting attention from her husband, and this guy has a bigger dick So the idea is yeah she's initially coerced/blackmailed, but the guy doesn't come across as sleazy at all, more like concerned she's not getting the attention she deserves and he'll provide that for her. Though initially she's reluctant he's careful to be seductive and not reveal his true plans for her so she falls into his trap. When he introduces handcuffs and blindfold it's all just adding a level of kinky fun' as far as she can see. At first it's all totally innocent and goes on like that for a while, but later he becomes more dominant and demanding, and by then she's in too deep.

Wouldn't the pregnancy reveal be the last thing?
Leaving you with "whose the daddy?"

No, I definitely want it to be clear he's the daddy, and her becoming pregnant is basically the cement that ensures she can't leave (not without having everything, including who the father of her baby is to her husband, whom she still loves). The idea of who's the daddy is more of an 'every man who has sex with her that doesn't know she's pregnant is going to be trying to knock her up. Once she's showing they'll know she's pregnant, but not that she already was, and each will convince themselves that they're the father which will just make them all act like they have some personal hold on her/connection with her. I want the guy she's cheating with to be assured that's his baby before he starts 'pimping her out'

 

[Alice_Angel]

Ok, sounds like you know what you want (if not necessarily the order you want it in). It sounds a bit too ahole dom for me but if this thread has shown anything its that we all have different tastes

Exactly, I do know what I want/how I want things to play out, and I'm sure it will be interesting enough to keep people reading (assuming it's the kind of thing that interests them). I just haven't been 100% sure of the order of events and what would be considered appropriate escalation without seeming to take a step back and have readers thinking 'this should have happened before that'. Worse case I'd prefer something be seen as a lateral step. Like forcing her to swallow his piss and rimming him seem to be two similar acts in a sense and it seems debatable which should happen first. And that's exactly why I started this discussion, rather than make a mistake and wish I had done things differently.

 

[TheRedChamber]

Exactly, I do know what I want/how I want things to play out, and I'm sure it will be interesting enough to keep people reading (assuming it's the kind of thing that interests them). I just haven't been 100% sure of the order of events and what would be considered appropriate escalation without seeming to take a step back and have readers thinking 'this should have happened before that'. Worse case I'd prefer something be seen as a lateral step. Like forcing her to swallow his piss and rimming him seem to be two similar acts in a sense and it seems debatable which should happen first. And that's exactly why I started this discussion, rather than make a mistake and wish I had done things differently.

Well being forced to drink piss is a passive act while rimning, even if otherwise coerced is at least somewhat active. I'd agree same ballpark so probably same chapter but piss first.

(I feel I shouldnt be discussing NC content this way but the logician in me has taken over)

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't have a particularly strong opinion about the order. I think that's up to you and your tastes. If I were in your shoes I'd be focusing on the overall story arc. How will the story end, and how will you get there? Stories of this sort work best when there's a "ratcheting up" feeling where with each chapter the conduct is more outrageous and extreme, but also where there's a feeling that the story is headed somewhere, as opposed to "let's see what degrading thing we can make her do this week." There's nothing wrong with this overall sort of noncon/degradation kink story, but I'd suggest thinking through the overall story before worrying too much about individual chapters and what order they should be in.

Your story concept is extremely ambitious in that you have so many chapters. If I were you I would focus on quality and not just quantity. Stories with very short chapters tend not to do as well as stories with longer chapters where each one stands on its own as a well-developed story.

 

[Alice_Angel]

Well being forced to drink piss is a passive act while rimning, even if otherwise coerced is at least somewhat active. I'd agree same ballpark so probably same chapter but piss first.

(I feel I shouldnt be discussing NC content this way but the logician in me has taken over)

Well this is all just theoretical conversation about a fictional story that hasn't been written.

Personally I was leaning towards rimming first after what someone said earlier. Although I did kind of feel it would be a little more natural for him to have her giving him a blowjob/sucking him clean after when he grabs her head and holds her in place as he pisses down her throat and she has no choice but to swallow. He does that to her multiple times and gets her used to it (even if she doesn't like it she doesn't have a choice). Then later he has her handcuffed to the bed (part of some normal kinky fun) and forces her to rim him.

As someone was saying they thought handcuffs should come later as a matter of trust, but I think if they have known each other a long time he could introduce handcuffs and blindfold early on as part of normal sensual kinky fun. Then later as he turns darker and pushes her to do more she wouldn't normally be comfortable with her can use those to help introduce her to those new things. For example, they've used the handcuffs/blindfold many times, she has no reason not to trust him but then one time he uses them with her to hide the fact he's brought in someone else. Or even later he uses them on her outdoors somewhere and leaves her handcuffed/blindfolded in a public park or something for strangers to use (while he watches).

I've given a lot of consideration to the order of events, a lot of it based on other stories I've read. But I still question it. Like should public humiliation maybe be moved? I could write plenty before I have to make all those decisions but I'd really like to have the order of events set in stone in my mind before I get a lot written just for my own piece of mind and so I can freely write pretty much any idea into a story with a good idea of where it will fit in the storyline.

 

[TheRedChamber]

If its that important to you to get it perfect, dont publish chapter by chapter, instead write everything, get some scenes down and then move things around and rejig the lead ins to each scene