Story Approval
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PennLady
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Meredith, hi and good luck.
It takes anywhere from 3-5 days for a story to post (this is in the FAQ). For the last several months it's been on the order of five days, unless the story is a contest entry. If you are checking the status, that's fine, but don't click "pending" and then "resubmit," as that puts your story in the back of the queue and it will take longer.
It takes anywhere from 3-5 days for a story to post (this is in the FAQ). For the last several months it's been on the order of five days, unless the story is a contest entry. If you are checking the status, that's fine, but don't click "pending" and then "resubmit," as that puts your story in the back of the queue and it will take longer.
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Keep an eye on the number of times it has been viewed. This number will increment as it goes through the approval process and will indicate that the site is in the process of approving it. So don't give up, just be patient. 5 days is more likely than 3 based on my experience. And if there's a contest underway add another 3 days to the 5.
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I'd have to check, but I don't think the number of views it accumulates during the "pending" phase means anything. It's been guessed to be a glitch, and also perhaps the result of bots or other programs searching for stories. I don't think there's anything to do but wait.
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Although Laurel in a recent message said that there was no computer bot checking on stories, she didn't say that she, the sole editor, was checking on pending stories either. She'd have to be some sort of wonder woman to open, do whatever anyone thinks is happening, and follow hundreds of pending stories constantly. That said, she wasn't really clear in her last message what is happening with those mounting view numbers before the story posts.
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Understood. Just pointing out that Laurel responded to part of this issue recently, but not to the progress of views while in pending. It's really just not in the cards, though, that "an editor" (since she's apparently the only one) is periodically opening stories in pending for any reason whatsoever. She ain't got that kind of time available.
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Oh, no. I never thought that.
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Personally I would like to see laurel dispel one theory of the multiple view before posting glitch.
The one where it could be some type of bug crawling through the system and lifting the stories before they even post on lit.
I'm not sure who posted that idea here (Zeb Carter? that's a guess though)
But someone I know who's a computer tech said that it is feasible, especially considering how frequent theft amongst these sites is. He then said a bunch of other mumbo jumbo that sounded similar to the stuff Dark starts coming out with sometimes and I tuned it out.
The one where it could be some type of bug crawling through the system and lifting the stories before they even post on lit.
I'm not sure who posted that idea here (Zeb Carter? that's a guess though)
But someone I know who's a computer tech said that it is feasible, especially considering how frequent theft amongst these sites is. He then said a bunch of other mumbo jumbo that sounded similar to the stuff Dark starts coming out with sometimes and I tuned it out.
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I was just speculating not that stuff is being lifted, but that there might be bots or spiders or other programs that when they look for stuff, that registers as a view. I don't know how it all works. I do know that the company I worked for in Virginia had a problem where some bot or whatever from China attempted to copy just about every document on one of our sites.
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Right and that is what I have begun speculating, once someone else here mentioned that it is possible.
It's probably not that, but imagine the trouble it would cause. When someone finds lit stories on another site and tells them, Manu goes ahead and tries to get the stories pulled and the site shut down.
Now what if that site can prove that story appeared on their site days before it appeared on lit? Now it looks as if Lit were stealing.
Again, I'm not sounding an alarm, but its as valid a theory as any and as with many questions here could be easily answered by the site-seeing there has only been several dozen "why does my story have views" threads over the last few months, I would think they would want to.
But that would defeat my pet theory that it is amusing for them to watch people guess and argue.
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The stories couldn't be lifted before even posting, because bots still only have access to the same thing a normal internet user would have access to.
The urls could be accessed with the correct knowledge, generating an "Awaiting moderater approval" message until such time as the story actually posted. Whether that would record as a view or not, I'm unsure.
Experimentation has indicated that previously posted and later rejected stories do seem to generate views this way, though. It's impossible to tell for sure, because that's the one statistic on private author pages that doesn't update in real time.
I've always suspected that it's a glitch in some standard maintenance script that's ticking the view counter when it's not supposed to. The patterns observed in the pre-approval views aren't logical for a story-stealing bot.
It makes no sense to access such a large number of pages every quarter of an hour when even a day or two would demonstrate to someone running such a script that new stories are only accessible from midnight eastern time until an unknown time that morning.
Even the most amateur of thieves would recognize the wasted server tics, let alone the ease of tracking and blocking such a script using such a predictable pattern. Not to mention that someone would have to have at least a base understanding of how Lit works to even program such a script, and would therefore likely know beforehand when the stories begin posting.
Such bots no doubt crawl Lit, but for them to be the sole -- or even primary -- source of what I'm calling "glitch views" is unlikely. Nor would any legitimate bot be responsible ( such as a Google crawler ) because those follow links, and stories that have never been posted have no links to follow.
There's no sure answer, but that doesn't mean you can't eliminate a large number of possible sources and arrive at a reasonable conclusion.
The urls could be accessed with the correct knowledge, generating an "Awaiting moderater approval" message until such time as the story actually posted. Whether that would record as a view or not, I'm unsure.
Experimentation has indicated that previously posted and later rejected stories do seem to generate views this way, though. It's impossible to tell for sure, because that's the one statistic on private author pages that doesn't update in real time.
I've always suspected that it's a glitch in some standard maintenance script that's ticking the view counter when it's not supposed to. The patterns observed in the pre-approval views aren't logical for a story-stealing bot.
It makes no sense to access such a large number of pages every quarter of an hour when even a day or two would demonstrate to someone running such a script that new stories are only accessible from midnight eastern time until an unknown time that morning.
Even the most amateur of thieves would recognize the wasted server tics, let alone the ease of tracking and blocking such a script using such a predictable pattern. Not to mention that someone would have to have at least a base understanding of how Lit works to even program such a script, and would therefore likely know beforehand when the stories begin posting.
Such bots no doubt crawl Lit, but for them to be the sole -- or even primary -- source of what I'm calling "glitch views" is unlikely. Nor would any legitimate bot be responsible ( such as a Google crawler ) because those follow links, and stories that have never been posted have no links to follow.
There's no sure answer, but that doesn't mean you can't eliminate a large number of possible sources and arrive at a reasonable conclusion.
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Not true, there is one, but we are not privy to it. Until then it's educated guesses and crack pot theories.
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Or, if it's a glitch that hasn't been tracked down, there may be nobody who knows.
What I've done is pointed out flaws in your theory. When you can demonstrate flaws in anything I've postulated here, I'll take notice.
I won't be holding my breath.
What I've done is pointed out flaws in your theory. When you can demonstrate flaws in anything I've postulated here, I'll take notice.
I won't be holding my breath.
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Not saying it was you, SR. I think it was Snooper who answered back with the number of stories submitted, on average, and mentioning that one person couldn't possibly handle the workload. All I did was just to repeat what I'd been told by Laurel herself. But then I could be wrong about who it was that posted that, it was quite a while back and I don't have the best memory.
