Stop holding out bitch!

[Betticus]

I want my orgasm and you can't keep it from me forever. I don't care how hard it is for you to cum for me without masturbating yourself. You will learn, I will teach you. Fuck that. I will condition you to cum for me. The more you hold back the worse it will be.

Let me explain this to you. Your orgasm happens in your brain. There is nothing wrong with your body. You have some barrier to overcome that is keeping you from cumming for me when I fuck you. I am not happy that you haven't opened up for me completely. You obviously don't care enough for me or about what this lack of trust does to me. You are not going to get away with this lack of respect.

You have a choice. You can either fully submit to me and give me this orgasm that I want as a gift or you can piss me off and make me take it from you. If you choose to give it to me I will work with you on this every step of the way. If you are stubborn I will work your ass over until I break down your walls, I will take what I want from you and then put you back together as I see fit.

This is your fault. You made me want you. You did things to tease me. You brought this on yourself. If I have to train you it will mean spankings. It will mean tears on your part. You will be tied up in a way that you can't even rub your pussy on the bed. Your thighs won't be able to close. I will bring you to the edge and back so many times it will make you cramp up in pain. You will beg me to fuck you. I will, once in a while slide my cock into you and then back out. I will condition you to hunger for that feeling. Since you say you need more stimulation.

I don't care that in your past some amateurs have overstimulated your clit. That you have been preconditioned to cum that way. It's going to change. It's going to change with you tied and helpless. It's going to change with me teasing you to the point of agony. It's going to change with you only getting my cock inside you for brief moments in time. It's going to change as I force you to focus all of your concentration on my cock inside you. It will start to change in your mind as you feel your orgasm. As your need grows to release it, to give it to me.

I want you to learn to cum at will, through concentration. I also want to rip orgasms from your body when I want them for myself. You are mine and your pleasure is mine, my responsibility. I want to bask in my power while you grind helplessly on my cock, while you cum over and over again for me until your mind is empty and you are exhausted. I will play your body like a flute. If you are lucky I may let you make me cum. Something to let you know that you have made me happy. So you can know that I am proud of you.

You can cuddle up on my lap after we are done and call me daddy.

 

[spankableBelle]

*raises her hand*

Where is the volunteer line for this?

 

[graceanne]

omg

 

[Sir_Winston54]

I like you, Betticus. You think much like I do. (That's meant to be a compliment, btw.) And your writing is very evocative, as witnessed by all the soaked panties of your readers.

 

[kitty4ever]

Very well written, Betticus.

 

[crimsonlace]

~fans self~

 

[MissTaken]

I can do that.

Well, I used do that.

Now, if I cum on command, it is my own command!

 

[SkyBluAngelEyes]

Fanning myself

I knew I should have waited to open this thread until closer to bedtime! :wink:

 

[graceanne]

Really, betticus, you should write some stories. You are really good. Frankly, my hubbies in for a nice surprise when he gets home.

 

[Netzach]

I can do that.

Well, I used do that.

Now, if I cum on command, it is my own command!

You know what's funny...
I have read a lot about training people to cum on command, much like the chick in the story I'm a button baby, and I don't care, G spot stim is highly overrated.

I've often wondered if I could apply a lot of the same methods to my own routines and train myself to talk myself into cumming "on command" I guess, or "at my own mental decision" kind of a kinky self-hypnosis project.

 

[RJMasters]

You know what's funny...
I have read a lot about training people to cum on command, much like the chick in the story I'm a button baby, and I don't care, G spot stim is highly overrated.

I've often wondered if I could apply a lot of the same methods to my own routines and train myself to talk myself into cumming "on command" I guess, or "at my own mental decision" kind of a kinky self-hypnosis project.

You might try associating a trigger to help. What I mean is in the future when you are having an orgasm, think of a word. After enough times of making this association, it is then an easier step to take.

(my exploring of this)
I place two fingers upon the lips and hold them there during orgasm bringing all focus upon my fingers. Period of time with not allowing orgasm unless fingers touch lips. You know when your there when you hold two fingers up infront of them and watch them just get wet. As my fingers get closer and closer...they feel it build inside them...then touch...and wham...instant drop and orgasm. A simple kissing of two fingers and holding them up and saying "lip touch" will send one who has been trained in this way to the ground in an instance. Then to watch as they struggle against the tightening as they fight off going over...then crawl, drag themselves over in order to touch my two fingers.

Yeah I know ~weg~

(but none of this counts as it was done all online/phone)

*Warning, by making this type of strong association, people often say they cannot orgasm unless it is triggered in this way. So take care. You are correct in that it is a self-hypnosis thing, hence take care.

 

[Betticus]

You know what's funny...
I have read a lot about training people to cum on command, much like the chick in the story I'm a button baby, and I don't care, G spot stim is highly overrated.

I've often wondered if I could apply a lot of the same methods to my own routines and train myself to talk myself into cumming "on command" I guess, or "at my own mental decision" kind of a kinky self-hypnosis project.

I can do it when I want if I concentrate but I can't bring on a full orgasm. I haven't tried but I bet I could train myself to do that.

I got that tantric multi orgasmic male book once upon a time and practiced the orgasm seperation from ejaculation for quite a while. The orgasm is different, less intense and more widespread. I think that the self ejaculation denial thing had a lot to do with it. It made me focus on the orgasm itself not as a goal but as something to be felt and controlled. So to bring yourself to the edge of orgasm and keep it there with the physical part while concentrating on the whole area, feeling everything, analyzing everything and mentally forcing the ejaculation to subside did it. I know exactly what it feels like and I can concentrate and mimic the same feelings but I can make them extremely intense if I want. Like twitching and moaning and shit. It wouldn't be good to do at work.

So the idea behind this bit if fantasy that I posted would be similar for her. A training technique I suppose. To bring her to the edge of orgasm over and over but to not let her cum. To work very closely with her, communicate the whole time. The object would be for her to be able to make herself reach that spot, that final edge of orgasm or hopefully even to crest the wave and for her to have a mind bending orgasm through sheer concentration.

What I want to do is to take her, someone that is not very orgasmic through penile stimulation and to have her overcome that. To make her more orgasmic or multi orgasmic. If she can relax and enjoy sex where before it was a tease for her to be fucked that would be great. It would be a huge ego booster for the man too. There is nothing like the feeling of a woman cumming on your cock. It is really the ultimate pat on the back.

Misstaken said she could do it, I'm curious as to how that came about. I only have some ideas of how to train this response in a woman. Something like some good, solid feedback would be great. From both sides if possible, the trainer and the trainee.

I swear, if I can manage to iron out proven techniques for this I will have to open up a school to train women to be orgasmic.

I'll be rich!

 

[RavenSpirit2k4]

Hmmmm, I often have the opposite problem. I cum very easily from vaginal stimulation, but its not nearly as intense as a clitoral orgasm. I actually hurt my side once cumming so hard during oral sex. But a clitoral orgasm takes much, much longer to build up to. Anyone going down on me like that had best be prepared to be there a while.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Recent Discovery

Whilst playing with my grrl a few weeks ago I discovered two things: She CAN cum on command (without touching herself) and it has something to do with my voice.

She says it's the tone (she is taller than me by over a foot) and it amazes her that I can be so forceful with her. I do know that we have a few key phrases: "my good grrl", or "such a good grrl." Either one sad with the right tone and with the right amount of velvet contralto will bring her off beautifully (and at the strangest times)

What does this really have to do with anything? Nothing but it seemed a good spot to put this lil rumination...

 

[Betticus]

You might try associating a trigger to help. What I mean is in the future when you are having an orgasm, think of a word. After enough times of making this association, it is then an easier step to take.

(my exploring of this)
I place two fingers upon the lips and hold them there during orgasm bringing all focus upon my fingers. Period of time with not allowing orgasm unless fingers touch lips. You know when your there when you hold two fingers up infront of them and watch them just get wet. As my fingers get closer and closer...they feel it build inside them...then touch...and wham...instant drop and orgasm. A simple kissing of two fingers and holding them up and saying "lip touch" will send one who has been trained in this way to the ground in an instance. Then to watch as they struggle against the tightening as they fight off going over...then crawl, drag themselves over in order to touch my two fingers.

Yeah I know ~weg~

(but none of this counts as it was done all online/phone)

*Warning, by making this type of strong association, people often say they cannot orgasm unless it is triggered in this way. So take care. You are correct in that it is a self-hypnosis thing, hence take care.

Interesting concept. Maybe if I just tell her when I want her to cum? I could just tease her. Or if I condition her to mainly bring herself right to the edge of orgasm and simply fuck her like crazy to make her cum I could tease her to that edge whenever I want. Like during the day or over the phone, then she has to wait on my cock to come home and make it all better.

I'm very selfish though and I would only want her to respond to me like that. I do so love to see a woman cum too. It's so beautiful.

 

[Betticus]

Re: Recent Discovery

Whilst playing with my grrl a few weeks ago I discovered two things: She CAN cum on command (without touching herself) and it has something to do with my voice.

She says it's the tone (she is taller than me by over a foot) and it amazes her that I can be so forceful with her. I do know that we have a few key phrases: "my good grrl", or "such a good grrl." Either one sad with the right tone and with the right amount of velvet contralto will bring her off beautifully (and at the strangest times)

What does this really have to do with anything? Nothing but it seemed a good spot to put this lil rumination...

Now I am going to have to hear your voice.

 

[RJMasters]

Re: Recent Discovery

Whilst playing with my grrl a few weeks ago I discovered two things: She CAN cum on command (without touching herself) and it has something to do with my voice.

She says it's the tone (she is taller than me by over a foot) and it amazes her that I can be so forceful with her. I do know that we have a few key phrases: "my good grrl", or "such a good grrl." Either one sad with the right tone and with the right amount of velvet contralto will bring her off beautifully (and at the strangest times)

What does this really have to do with anything? Nothing but it seemed a good spot to put this lil rumination...

Hugs Luna

Yes, many times there is a natural connection made which is so sweet. I feel it largely depends on the one doing the surrendure, and their ability to "drop instantly". Congratz to the both of you as this is such a sweet thing to share.

 

[RJMasters]

Interesting concept. Maybe if I just tell her when I want her to cum? I could just tease her. Or if I condition her to mainly bring herself right to the edge of orgasm and simply fuck her like crazy to make her cum I could tease her to that edge whenever I want. Like during the day or over the phone, then she has to wait on my cock to come home and make it all better.

I'm very selfish though and I would only want her to respond to me like that. I do so love to see a woman cum too. It's so beautiful.

At the risk of people throwing tomatoes at me...

I would induce mental images of emptiness and incompleteness to encrease the need or want of "Sir's Cock"(whic of course fills the emptiness and completes). Because orgasm is not just a physical thing, shaping the mental aspects is important. In my opinion the best time to do this is during "subspace". Because it is your voice they cling to and count on as their safety net back to reallity. Allow yourself to slip into their world, and mentaly be with them there. Here the storngest of mental suggestions can be made about anything. By doing this you automatically associate the trigger with the drop into subspace as well as the orgasm.

Of course I must say...this reallly needs to be consentual. Otherwise it is at the very least "brainwashing" and clearly can be mental rape.

As a side note: I have used subspace as a means to help others over come things in their lives.

 

[spankableBelle]

*still looking for the line to volunteer for this*

 

[RJMasters]

I swear, if I can manage to iron out proven techniques for this I will have to open up a school to train women to be orgasmic.

I'll be rich!

Betticus's School of Ogasmic Bliss

Has a nice ring to it bro

lol Looks like spankableBelle is ready.

Give a new meaning to the term...teacher's pet eh

 

[Betticus]

Betticus's School of Ogasmic Bliss

Has a nice ring to it bro

lol Looks like spankableBelle is ready.

Give a new meaning to the term...teacher's pet eh

I could write a book and after the second or third is a bestseller I'll start my own school. I only have so much time though so I'll have to be very selective of clients. I'll start with filthy rich Russian tennis player chicks.....

I'd need a crew of instructors. I can work this into my school for guys that are just clueless and don't know how to fuck and someone wanted schools in S&M.

 

[graceanne]

*still looking for the line to volunteer for this*

you and me both

 

[SkyBluAngelEyes]

you and me both

Count me in... Think He can handle us all?

 

[graceanne]

Hmmmm, I often have the opposite problem. I cum very easily from vaginal stimulation, but its not nearly as intense as a clitoral orgasm. I actually hurt my side once cumming so hard during oral sex. But a clitoral orgasm takes much, much longer to build up to. Anyone going down on me like that had best be prepared to be there a while.

Actually I'm like that too. I can have a clitoral orgasm, but they're not as good as the ones I get from vaginal stimulation. Although an orgasm from both is the best.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Re: Re: Recent Discovery

Now I am going to have to hear your voice.

*grin*

Usually I sound like a young grrl..high pitched and soft. However during play..my voice drops about an octave and becomes husky, and velvet~y. You know..Toni Braxton or even Cher. No idea why that is...

(Hugs RJ and thanks my man...Missed you I have)