Steve Scalise Shot

[Wrong Element]

“Donald, you ain’t seen nasty yet.”

Cherokee Liz Warren.


The fighting words continue unabated...

I seem to recall you disagreeing with me when I predicted the shooting would be used as a means of delegitimizing all criticism of Trump.

 

[HisArpy]

There are scholars on the left. Hell, Ish's thread about Camille Paglia's piece is an example. The left is rife with non-violent and pacifist theorists. But yeah, in the street mob, maybe less so.

I was surprised to learn about Camille. I never knew that there was a voice on the Left urging rational deliberation.

Unfortunately, I think she's just one lone voice in the darkness and easily ignored by stuffing a pillow over your head. Which is the most common response by humans to things they don't like.

 

[poed]

I seem to recall you disagreeing with me when I predicted the shooting would be used as a means of delegitimizing all criticism of Trump.

let us all remember, this CRETIN gleefully spread FAKE NEWS on WHITES burning the NAACP building

HE CONDEMNED ALL WHITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[about_average]

I saw your comment about keeping his job as well, and I think it's valid; in order to do anything at all, a legislator has to first...be a legislator. It's a tragic aspect of the system that they're constantly under the gun of losing the job. I guess that's one argument for term limits. Similar to a second-term president, a term-limited legislator could just do what he thinks is the right thing and not worry about votes and donors. Not sure it's enough to convince me, but it has some validity.

Maybe most of Scalise's constituents believe that it's their business to stick their collective noses in other people's private business, but I'd be extremely surprised that they voted him him with instructions to author bills to do it and he felt he's be voted out if he didn't introduce them.
Something like that comes from someone who actually believes strongly in it. So regardless of whether or not he was just following orders (which, as we all know, the US established is no excuse) it's his desire to do it.
Claiming he respects homosexuals is completely contrary to his actions. It's as simple as that.

As for term limits, they are just a method to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Since you quoted that piece of shit, I will say again, for the record, in all caps, NO ONE SHOULD BE SHOT OVER POLICY.

FWIW, I've never seen you advocate violence so there's no reason I (unlike certain people in this thread) would think you pointing something out about someone means you are trying to justify violence in general, much less shooting someone. I've never been one to assume the worst about others. They have to provide evidence of the worst.
Sadly, it seems some think if you're not all sweetness and light about a person's positions then you're advocating violence.

I'm pretty sure it was this thread where someone brought up the Julius Caesar play. I wonder how outraged they were when Obama was portrayed as Caesar.
Even businesses are feigning outrage, Delta and Bank of America both pulled their sponsorship even though they sponsored the one where Obama was killed.
Gotta love selective outrage.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I seem to recall you disagreeing with me when I predicted the shooting would be used as a means of delegitimizing all criticism of Trump.

http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff502/Soonyigump/DownGoesAJ_zps35f58818.jpg

 

[HisArpy]

Maybe most of Scalise's constituents believe that it's their business to stick their collective noses in other people's private business, but I'd be extremely surprised that they voted him him with instructions to author bills to do it and he felt he's be voted out if he didn't introduce them.
Something like that comes from someone who actually believes strongly in it. So regardless of whether or not he was just following orders (which, as we all know, the US established is no excuse) it's his desire to do it.
Claiming he respects homosexuals is completely contrary to his actions. It's as simple as that.

I think you're making assumptions without any evidence to support them. Congressional representatives have town hall meetings to discuss issues with their constituencies. (And just stop and not go there. And you know where I'm talking about too.) Their local legislators (state and county and city) also author bills and enact laws which can reflect the mood and mindset of the local populace. To bring that to Congress as a premise for a bill isn't difficult to imagine. Perhaps Scalise did so. As much as Strom Thurmond did for his constituency in South Carolina. In spite of the fact that he voted against Civil Rights in 1964, and continued to believe in segregation for his entire life, he signed on to Civil Rights legislation on occasion. Because that's what his voters wanted.

You see, you can't just ascribe personal motivations for all the things that people do as professionals. Especially without any facts. Something you seem to always be short of for some reason in this discussion.

 

[poed]

lets NOT forget

HIS positions were IDENTICAL to that of

KneeGrowObama and CuntClinton

 

[RobDownSouth]

Arsenal?

You had a building set aside for your guns? That's rather impressive.

One a nice sunny day, heading down to watch some national figures having a nice little practice game, which of those numerous firearms would you remove from your arsenal building to take with you to that game?

If tbe answer is "none of them" why not?

One can tell how deeply Queerbait's ox was gored by the number of deflections he has to make to avoid responsibility for his errant remark(s).

Here, we see that the "recovering transvestite" has to make not one, but two deflections to divert attention away from his material falsehood. But hai, guys like you and your sensei mancrush do whatever it takes to avoid having to apologize, amirite?

 

[Hashtag35]

I guess you haven't been following the conversation too closely and have jumped to all the wrong conclusions.

The reason I reacted to yet another one of those posts on his voting record is that the Left here made the cops sexual orientation an issue as an attack on the Congressman. The fact of the matter is, a very large segment of America objected to the change in the definition of marriage over imaginary rights and a specious subset of tax and other consequences, all of which could have been remedied by civil unions. It was even the majority opinion in California for the longest time. There is no reason to attack this man because he represented his constituency.

The Left did.

This argument, control people's lives is no more than another emotional appeal, the same kind of emotional appeals that led to the shooting and because people such as yourself are engaging in discussion like this, will not cool the red-hot hatred of the SJW crowd. You give them legitimacy with false argumentation.

There was a time in America where your prairee nigger ass would have been shot for even looking at a white woman , sensei runs with flab. A very large number of Americans would have cheered it on as well.

 

[poed]

RODEO CLOWN

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POEM WRITER

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Cal State U. faculty Lars Maischak wants President Trump hanged and Republicans executed

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cal...ed&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[water505]

One can tell how deeply Queerbait's ox was gored by the number of deflections he has to make to avoid responsibility for his errant remark(s).

Here, we see that the "recovering transvestite" has to make not one, but two deflections to divert attention away from his material falsehood. But hai, guys like you and your sensei mancrush do whatever it takes to avoid having to apologize, amirite?

Queerbait...recovering transvestite...man crush.....

It's remarkable that someone could live with that much mental illness.

 

[Peregrinator]

I was surprised to learn about Camille. I never knew that there was a voice on the Left urging rational deliberation.

Unfortunately, I think she's just one lone voice in the darkness and easily ignored by stuffing a pillow over your head. Which is the most common response by humans to things they don't like.

It's easy enough to find them. I mean, one of the criticisms of the left is that they hang out in ivory towers in the academic sphere. Those are scholars, whether one agrees with them or not. Hell, Noam Chomsky is a smart guy, if a little whack. Maybe you're not looking in the right places? I try to look all over the political spectrum for commentary, myself. Easy enough to judge a given piece on its merits rather than broad brush. I've seen smart, well-argued stuff on HuffPo and NRO.

Maybe most of Scalise's constituents believe that it's their business to stick their collective noses in other people's private business, but I'd be extremely surprised that they voted him him with instructions to author bills to do it and he felt he's be voted out if he didn't introduce them.
Something like that comes from someone who actually believes strongly in it. So regardless of whether or not he was just following orders (which, as we all know, the US established is no excuse) it's his desire to do it.
Claiming he respects homosexuals is completely contrary to his actions. It's as simple as that.

As for term limits, they are just a method to throw the baby out with the bath water.

FWIW, I've never seen you advocate violence so there's no reason I (unlike certain people in this thread) would think you pointing something out about someone means you are trying to justify violence in general, much less shooting someone. I've never been one to assume the worst about others. They have to provide evidence of the worst.
Sadly, it seems some think if you're not all sweetness and light about a person's positions then you're advocating violence.

I'm pretty sure it was this thread where someone brought up the Julius Caesar play. I wonder how outraged they were when Obama was portrayed as Caesar.
Even businesses are feigning outrage, Delta and Bank of America both pulled their sponsorship even though they sponsored the one where Obama was killed.
Gotta love selective outrage.

That's true; we have only to look at the current administration, or the last one, to see multiple favorite causes of the respective sides being backed off, dropped, ignored, etc. The things they care about get attention.

I go back and forth and never land with term limits. Can't say I've ever really drilled down on it.

Nah, that was just typical Lit bullshit argument. These political threads are always like that. You say "I don't like this Bush policy," and fifty people start screaming about how Clinton was worse. As if it had any relevance. I know of exactly one person who thought Scalise should be shot. That person is dead.

That sounds like something busybody would do. I gave up on him when he started attacking my wife. He's gotten stupider and more thoroughly entrenched over the years, from the few posts I've bothered to look at. I prefer the term "poutrage," because it covers the thumbsucking image so nicely.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

lol...

Shakespeare for Dummies
Ron Maxwell

On the eve of the summer theater festival season we can anticipate a revival of Shakespeare productions motivated by a heartfelt commitment to make theatergoers understand that when the bard had his various characters commit regicide, it was Donald Trump he had in mind.

Stage directors will outdo themselves in bloody and bloodier choreography as Macbeth, Claudius, Caesar, and Richard III are hacked, slashed, and stabbed to death in ludicrously elongated orgies of violence with each tyrant portrayed as a blond-haired, red-cravated Trump. Dutifully and predictably, in an expression of mass virtue signaling, the audience will hoot, howl, laugh, and applaud. A ticket stub will be bandied as a membership card to the “resistance.”

Some truly inspired director is sure to portray Duncan as Trump, so that Macbeth can spend a full five minutes frenetically stabbing him in his sleep, which should provide ample time for the Trump hating zealots to achieve their ultimate catharsis.

It’s a testament to the enduring genius of these plays that they will survive even these banal productions, which try mightily to reduce Shakespeare’s brilliant insights of the human condition to their own peevish politics.

https://spectator.org/shakespeare-for-dummies/

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Blast from the past...


Remember the poor rodeo clown?

Columnist Jeff Kuhner wrote that: “In New York City, liberals in the theater have added a perverse twist to their long-running series, ‘Shakespeare in the Park.’ In an adaptation of Julius Caesar, the role of Caesar is played by an actor who strongly resembles Trump – the distinctive blonde hairstyle, the long red tie and power business suit. Caesar’s wife, Calpurnia, is played by someone who is supposed to be Melania Trump, which includes a thick Slavic accent. In the pivotal scene of Caesar’s murder, the Trump character is repeatedly stabbed to death by minorities (most of whom are black) and women.”

Kuhner continued: “The implicit message is clear: Trump, like Caesar, is a tyrant who poses a mortal threat to our republic and must be killed. In other words, a major theater company is producing a play in Central Park that depicts the president being gruesomely murdered on stage. At best, the ‘assassination play’ is in very poor taste. This is why Delta Airlines and Bank of America have withdrawn their sponsorships.

“Yet, liberals are not only defending it. They are celebrating it. The New York Times insists it will continue to sponsor the play, arguing it is about the right to ‘freedom of speech.’ CNN host Fareed Zakaria – an admitted serial plagiarist – calls it a ‘masterpiece’ for the ‘Trump era.’ His employer, Time-Warner, is also a sponsor.”

The irony, Kuhner added, “is that the New York Times and CNN sang a very different tune during the Obama years. They led the media charge demanding that a rodeo clown be fired simply for wearing an Obama mask. For liberal elites, to mock Obama was grounds for social ostracism; to call for the murder of Trump is a sign of heroic ‘resistance.’

http://www.worldtribune.com/open-se...ll-rank-breakdown-of-americas-social-compact/

 

[Hashtag47]

Blast from the past...


Remember the poor rodeo clown?




http://www.worldtribune.com/open-se...ll-rank-breakdown-of-americas-social-compact/

Fucking whaaaaaaa!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Queerbait...recovering transvestite...man crush.....

It's remarkable that someone could live with that much mental illness.

Queerbait have a cockroach's survival instincts.

Despite your dimunitive nature (only five feet eight" due to "underdeveloped" lungs) and being whacked hard by the autism fairy, you've managed to survive chronic unemployment and gender identity issues, Queerbait. You forage in local junkyards and haunt thrift stores. You recently shared that you discontinued all of your free Medicaid maintenance meds three years ago (roughly when your 200+ posts a day posting spree began, btw) and your downward spiral continues now at an accelerated rate. Although you're only in your 50s, I think you are the next odds-on favorite to do a "Byron Flatline". This will probably be good for everyone, the hashtag consortium will disappear here, and your autistic daughter will get the badly needed Social Security survivor benefits that will greatly improve her diet of primarily government cheese.

 

[Rightguide]

Blast from the past...


Remember the poor rodeo clown?




http://www.worldtribune.com/open-se...ll-rank-breakdown-of-americas-social-compact/

It's different when you rightfully disparage a Democrat loser. They demand respect and dignity for the domestic enemies they elevate into positions of power.

 

[Rightguide]

^^^^^^Opinionated women in positions of power scare the hell out of our spineless Vietnam-era Marines. Semper Flee!

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Rightguide]

The latest I heard is Scalise' condition has been upgraded. There was a time when I didn't expect him to survive when they were reporting his numerous blood transfusions. he must have been losing it as fast as they could replace it. Apparently, his two surgeries have stopped all bleeding but no bullet fragments have been removed so several more surgeries are said to be needed. One wonders if and when he will ever be able to return to duty.

 

[HisArpy]

Physical effects can be overcome, to a point. Giffords couldn't go back to work because of the brain damage she suffered but Scalise isn't supposed to be in the same category. His injuries are to his body so depending on their severity and what it takes to keep him functioning, he should be able to return to his seat.

The biggest hurdle will be the mental aspect. He will have to overcome the fear of going back to a place that hurt him so badly and re-engage. Not everyone can do that.

There's also an issue that in this day and age, can a Congressional District be without a representative for X days/months while they recover? If it's going to take years for Scalise to return, the District is better off replacing him even if doing so sounds ungracious.

 

[Rightguide]

Physical effects can be overcome, to a point. Giffords couldn't go back to work because of the brain damage she suffered but Scalise isn't supposed to be in the same category. His injuries are to his body so depending on their severity and what it takes to keep him functioning, he should be able to return to his seat.

The biggest hurdle will be the mental aspect. He will have to overcome the fear of going back to a place that hurt him so badly and re-engage. Not everyone can do that.

There's also an issue that in this day and age, can a Congressional District be without a representative for X days/months while they recover? If it's going to take years for Scalise to return, the District is better off replacing him even if doing so sounds ungracious.

This kind of event and long recovery process can take a lot of fight our of an otherwise tough individual. He'll face realizations of his own mortality, pressures from his family, that might sap a lot of the energy that drove him to the top of his profession. Hopefully, he'll recover and continue to serve but every aspect of his strength and character will be tested in the process. My guess is his rehabilitation will exceed the remaining months of his present term. He could receive a sympathy vote for another term if his recovery is viewed as imminent, but I'm not sure of anything beyond that. he may have to step aside.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Physical effects can be overcome, to a point. Giffords couldn't go back to work because of the brain damage she suffered but Scalise isn't supposed to be in the same category. His injuries are to his body so depending on their severity and what it takes to keep him functioning, he should be able to return to his seat.

The biggest hurdle will be the mental aspect. He will have to overcome the fear of going back to a place that hurt him so badly and re-engage. Not everyone can do that.

There's also an issue that in this day and age, can a Congressional District be without a representative for X days/months while they recover? If it's going to take years for Scalise to return, the District is better off replacing him even if doing so sounds ungracious.

The security on the hill is visible and active. You just don't walk up to any important building in the Capitol without walking past a lot of police...

There's a reason the killer had to do his stalking in Alexandria.

I think he'll be okay.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I guess you haven't been following the conversation too closely and have jumped to all the wrong conclusions.

The reason I reacted to yet another one of those posts on his voting record is that the Left here made the cops sexual orientation an issue as an attack on the Congressman. The fact of the matter is, a very large segment of America objected to the change in the definition of marriage over imaginary rights and a specious subset of tax and other consequences, all of which could have been remedied by civil unions. It was even the majority opinion in California for the longest time. There is no reason to attack this man because he represented his constituency.

The Left did.

This argument, control people's lives is no more than another emotional appeal, the same kind of emotional appeals that led to the shooting and because people such as yourself are engaging in discussion like this, will not cool the red-hot hatred of the SJW crowd. You give them legitimacy with false argumentation.

Twasn't the "Left", Mr. If-One-Then-All-Of-Them. It was me. I made a single post about the irony of a lesbian police officer putting her life on the line for a notorious homophobe. That's the textbook definition of irony.

To you, however, it was manna from Skyfather. You immediately re-focused the convo on my remark, calling for your fainting couch and shreiking loud and long that THIS was "all" those nasty libruls cared about.

 

[HisArpy]

Twasn't the "Left", Mr. If-One-Then-All-Of-Them. It was me. I made a single post about the irony of a lesbian police officer putting her life on the line for a notorious homophobe. That's the textbook definition of irony.

To you, however, it was manna from Skyfather. You immediately re-focused the convo on my remark, calling for your fainting couch and shreiking loud and long that THIS was "all" those nasty libruls cared about.

OH PUH-LEEZE...

You intejected nonrelevant political ideology into the discussion about bravery and tragedy and when the topic deviated, AS YOU INTENDED IT TO, you now bitch about how you're feeling all wronged?

What a drama queen.

 

[RobDownSouth]

OH PUH-LEEZE...You intejected nonrelevant political ideology into the discussion about bravery and tragedy and when the topic deviated, AS YOU INTENDED IT TO, you now bitch about how you're feeling all wronged?What a drama queen.

I don't feel "all wronged", poo smudge, that's you ascribing a position to me. (Have you met Conager yet? He's good for pro-tips on that). I didn't "INTEND TO" deflect from the topic, I made a one-off remark. The fact that AJ had one of his trademark meltdowns is no fault of mine, he typically does these little hissy fits when people have the temerity to disagree with him. (Ask him about his PhD dissertation about "Ad Hominem By Class"!!)

In any event, Chief TubOfLard doesn't need your #BroCavalry, he should be man enough to respond by himself (or have the #Hashswarm succor him)